White House: Trump to sign Russia sanctions bill
Source: CNN
President Donald Trump has reviewed the final version of Russia sanctions legislation and plans to sign it, the White House announced Friday night.
Trump read early drafts of the bill, negotiated elements of it and "based on its responsiveness to his negotiations, approves the bill and intends to sign it," the White House statement said.
The legislation, which was sent to the White House on Friday, would sanction Russia while sharply limiting Trump's ability to ease penalties against Moscow independently.
Rejecting the bill would have further galvanized resistance against the President and deepened concerns about possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. And Congress would have quickly overturn a veto...
Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/28/politics/white-house-russia-sanctions/index.html
This is going to be most interesting. Putin's not going to be happy with his "investment."
still_one
(92,131 posts)LonePirate
(13,417 posts)Of course with the House being in recess and the Senate being in its ridiculous Pro Forma sessions to keep the lights on, I'm not sure if the bill would become law or if would be subject to a pocket veto. I'm guessing it would amount to a pocket veto due to the House being in recess.
So yeah, he was screwed either way. Damn the luck, you traitorous POS.
still_one
(92,131 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,841 posts)The pocket veto thing generally tends to happen at the end of a calendar year when both chambers adjourn.
At this point of the year, neither chamber is adjourning. The House is in recess and the Senate is still "in session" (since they are doing the gaveling in every 3 days thing - "pro forma" ).
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)looking that up, as it turns out. I did like this about Scaramucci, though:
LOL for the silly bloviating, but this buffoon really does seem to be better than anyone before at channeling the Buffoon-in-Chief.
BumRushDaShow
(128,841 posts)that they keep funneling into the West Wing.
But see - every time they keep uttering these types of boastful base-feeding nonsensical "promises" and then they "lose" after discovering that government does not operate like "a business", eventually even their "base" will get tired of it.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)JoeOtterbein
(7,700 posts)thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)So a veto would be counter-productive. It would feed the flame of Trump seeming beholden to Russia, while actually not providing any benefit to Russia since it would become law anyway. That's actually worst case for Putin.
So yeah, I agree that Putin wants him to sign it, though I doubt it was necessary for Putin to tell him. It's kind of self-evident, and I doubt Trump had any advisers--under Russia's influence or not--suggesting that he not sign it.
Vogon_Glory
(9,117 posts)Will we FINALLY get to see the wee-wee video?
Duppers
(28,118 posts)Trump will never be safe if he signs this bill and enforces it. Never.
Lovely.
cstanleytech
(26,281 posts)to match the limitations set by the US against Russia and he seized 2 US properties some warehouse and something else I cannot recall what off the top of my head.
Frankly I think we should just close our embassy and order all their diplomats out of the country including those here for the UN and if they want back in then they need to admit their past actions and agree to stop any future assaults on our country and its election process and agree to pay a significant monetary penalty of 100 billion US dollars if they get caught doing it again.
janx
(24,128 posts)He had no choice.
hatrack
(59,583 posts)ffr
(22,669 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)Are we sure? I'm reticent.... reticent I say.
Pluvious
(4,308 posts)... In short snippets, by his pretty female aide (wearing a beautiful floral print Summer dress), during the Fox 'n Fiends commercial breaks.
Gothmog
(145,129 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Trump is now the most ineffectual president ever.
C Moon
(12,212 posts)everyone will be looking that way, and he'll veto it when nobody is watching.
The GOP is a party of traitors. They signed onto this knowing Traitor Trump wouldn't sign it.
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)the issue is not just Russia
the bill includes highly questionable sanctions against Iran (NK too),
and one can legitimately ask what purpose the legislation
will serve.
The Drumph is trying to do everything he can to undo the
entire Obama legacy - including blowing up the Iran deal.
At some point, perhaps soon, Europe, China and the rest of the
world will stop going along with endless punitive sanctions.
Duppers
(28,118 posts)Last edited Sat Jul 29, 2017, 02:43 PM - Edit history (1)
Russia has promised additional retaliatory measures against the new sanctions once they become law, possibly targeting U.S. commercial or trade interests.
This is a landmark moment, said Andrei Kolesnikov, a journalist for the newspaper Kommersant who regularly travels with Putin and has interviewed him extensively over the past 17 years. His patience has seriously run out, and everything that hes been putting off in this conflict, hes now going to do.
...
Among the areas that could be affected are a United Nations vote on new North Korea sanctions and cooperation in Syria.
...
In Syria, the administration is depending on Russia to restrain its allies the government of President Bashar al-Assad and Iran from interfering in the campaign against the Islamic State.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/07/28/trump-intends-to-sign-russia-sanctions-bill-white-house-says-it-would-let-congress-block-him-from-easing-sanctions-on-moscow/?utm_term=.7b65f48e9554
(Hope the WaPo reporting is better for you.)
Anyway, this seems like a stern warning from Putin. He could bring Trump down with blackmail info he has on him but then he'd have to deal with the less pliable Pence.
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)it makes no mention at all of Iran sanctions being part of the bill
(NK as well).
People are paying remarkably little attention to the prospect of
war with Iran.
Duppers
(28,118 posts)"Trumps aides had given mixed signals about whether the president would sign or veto the Russia legislation, which is packaged with additional sanctions on Iran and North Korea that he supports."
I'm more worried about his doing something stupid with NK.
Duppers
(28,118 posts)Republican lawmakers also pointed to North Korea's latest missile test as yet another reason for Trump to sign the bill, which also includes new sanctions against North Korea and Iran.
Yep, that was very offhandedly tho.
VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)Obama legacy but Rand Paul and Bernie are trying to preserve it?
Duppers
(28,118 posts)"At some point, perhaps soon, Europe, China and the rest of the
world will stop going along with endless punitive sanctions."
I don't think so. Europe hates Putin as much as we Dem do - we voted for them.
The House on Tuesday voted overwhelmingly to advance new financial sanctions against key U.S. adversaries and deliver a foreign-policy brushback to President Trump by limiting his ability to waive many of them.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/house-prepares-to-pass-sanctions-bill--and-set-up-veto-dilemma-for-trump/2017/07/25/ece80164-7138-11e7-8839-ec48ec4cae25_story.html?utm_term=.0e5df9ad0a51
Thanks, VK.
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)with blowing up one of Obama's signature achievements.
I'm glad that Bernie voted NO
From the NYT (July 18) - "But parties to the agreement also include Britain, China, France, Russia and Germany,
which do not share Mr. Trumps objections. An American withdrawal would leave the United States
isolated on the issue.
Moreover, the nuclear agreement is monitored by the International Atomic Energy Agency of the United
Nations, which has repeatedly found Iran to be in compliance despite Mr. Trumps assertions that Iran is
not adhering to the spirit of the agreement."
VermontKevin
(1,473 posts)The Independent and the Libertarian are no so invested.
Otherwise, you are suggesting that every Democrat decided to crap on the Obama legacy. I trust Warren, Franken, Udall and Wyden.
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)And I hope they oppose the Iran sanctions as well.
We oppose the US as international bully.
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