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Sun Jul 30, 2017, 12:48 PM

BREAKING - 755 US diplomats must leave Russia, President Putin announces

Source: AFP

MOSCOW: Russian President Vladimir Putin said Sunday that 755 U.S. diplomats must leave his country, after Moscow announced it would expel American staff in retaliation for tough new sanctions from Washington.

The Russian foreign ministry had earlier demanded the U.S. cut its diplomatic presence in Russia by September to 455 people - the same number Moscow has in the U.S.

"More than a thousand people were working and are still working" at the U.S. embassy and consulates," Putin said in an interview with Rossia-24 television. "755 people must stop their activities in Russia."

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/World/2017/Jul-30/414460-755-us-diplomats-must-leave-russia-putin.ashx

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Reply BREAKING - 755 US diplomats must leave Russia, President Putin announces (Original post)
kpete Jul 2017 OP
Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #1
FakeNoose Jul 2017 #27
InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #55
DURHAM D Jul 2017 #2
gordianot Jul 2017 #4
NCjack Jul 2017 #15
bettyellen Jul 2017 #17
sfwriter Jul 2017 #46
kimbutgar Jul 2017 #3
msongs Jul 2017 #9
jrthin Jul 2017 #44
InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #54
paleotn Jul 2017 #50
dalton99a Jul 2017 #14
SammyWinstonJack Jul 2017 #34
Tarheel_Dem Jul 2017 #60
Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #5
winetourdriver01 Jul 2017 #7
SammyWinstonJack Jul 2017 #35
mitch96 Jul 2017 #53
lib-ruhl Jul 2017 #58
NCjack Jul 2017 #16
unblock Jul 2017 #18
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2017 #48
NCjack Jul 2017 #49
bdamomma Jul 2017 #52
WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2017 #19
Still In Wisconsin Jul 2017 #26
kairos12 Jul 2017 #30
FakeNoose Jul 2017 #32
PSPS Jul 2017 #6
Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #12
Iliyah Jul 2017 #8
BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #10
turbinetree Jul 2017 #11
jberryhill Jul 2017 #13
NRaleighLiberal Jul 2017 #20
kairos12 Jul 2017 #21
Iliyah Jul 2017 #22
Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #23
Dopers_Greed Jul 2017 #24
leftofcool Jul 2017 #25
kairos12 Jul 2017 #29
FreepFryer Jul 2017 #28
oasis Jul 2017 #31
C Moon Jul 2017 #33
KG Jul 2017 #36
Juliusseizure Jul 2017 #37
dalton99a Jul 2017 #38
ancianita Jul 2017 #39
Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #43
BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #40
Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #41
lanlady Jul 2017 #56
Leghorn21 Jul 2017 #57
Phoenix61 Jul 2017 #61
unc70 Jul 2017 #62
matt819 Jul 2017 #42
oberliner Jul 2017 #45
L. Coyote Jul 2017 #47
Turbineguy Jul 2017 #51
Not Ruth Jul 2017 #59

Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 12:49 PM

1. Yep, inevitable. Worst human alive in power here to handle this.

Holy fuck

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 02:12 PM

27. The Brits and Israelis are way better at this anyway

They have the deep undercover spies already in place, while our guys go around bumping into everything like bulls in a china shop. Let our guys come home and the Brits and other Europeans continue spying on Putin. Too bad Trump pissed them off though, now they don't want to share new stuff with him.

They'll wait till a real POTUS comes in to share any more info.


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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 08:00 PM

55. Could see this one coming... 2020 can't get here soon enough!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 12:51 PM

2. With fewer workers that means it will take longer

for the Russians do get their travel visas. Does that mean a smaller Russian spy network in the US?

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 12:57 PM

4. I figure the spy network they have now is golden.

Honey pots for the pot belly honey.

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Response to gordianot (Reply #4)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 01:17 PM

15. with #45 keeping them informed, the Russians will be just fine with their network. nt

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 01:19 PM

17. I know that record numbers of visas for "diplomats" have been approved this year after we kicked

 

Some out.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 06:05 PM

46. Nooope - They have slipped 150 operatives into the country under Trump

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 12:55 PM

3. Let's expel all the Russian spies here also.

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 01:09 PM

9. who should go first, Mr and Mrs Trump?

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Response to msongs (Reply #9)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 04:45 PM

44. Then Jared and Ivanka. n/t

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Response to jrthin (Reply #44)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 07:59 PM

54. My thought exactly... start with those two traitors!

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Response to msongs (Reply #9)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 07:19 PM

50. Yes

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 01:17 PM

14. Starting with the Oval Office

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #14)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 03:09 PM

34. +1000000

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #14)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 10:04 PM

60. Zing!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 12:59 PM

5. No worries - LOSER 45 is on it:

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 01:03 PM

7. Lordy

Fat Ugly and Stupid is no way to go through life...

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Response to winetourdriver01 (Reply #7)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 03:09 PM

35. It works for him.

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Response to winetourdriver01 (Reply #7)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 07:32 PM

53. Fat Ugly and Stupid is no way to go through life...

I don't condone body shaming or picking on someone for being intellectually challenged but in this case I'll make an exception!!
m

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Response to mitch96 (Reply #53)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 08:22 PM

58. If asked about his military expertise .......

he can at least say he's been in bunker......

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 01:19 PM

16. How does his heart take the load of that belly and ass? nt

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Response to NCjack (Reply #16)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 01:32 PM

18. there's no evidence he has a heart.

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Response to NCjack (Reply #16)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 06:55 PM

48. It keeps him from falling out of his golf cart

Low center of gravity.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #48)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 07:08 PM

49. He should take up billiards. Oh, no, that wont work. He is belly would stop

him from getting a long reach to make a good stroke on the cue ball. But, Minnesota Fats was great. Wait -- didn't MF have large hands?

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Response to NCjack (Reply #16)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 07:28 PM

52. sooner

or later don the con's BS will fly right back into his face. Hopefully sooner.

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 01:34 PM

19. God, his swing sucks.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #19)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 02:12 PM

26. That was my first thought.

I was a caddy in my youth... I remember fat rich guys like Trump who fancied themselves golfers.

"Nice shot, sir!"...snicker snicker

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 02:21 PM

30. The angle of club to ball defies physics.

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Response to kairos12 (Reply #30)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 02:36 PM

32. He's hitting in a sand trap

...so the ball doesn't always go where it's supposed to, even when you know what you're doing.
Don't worry though, Cheeto lies on his scorecard, so I'm sure he won anyway.



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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 01:02 PM

6. No big deal. It's routine tit for tat in these things. It has always gone like this ever since WWII.

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Response to PSPS (Reply #6)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 01:13 PM

12. I don't think this is routine. I've never heard of anything like this many. Usually more like 35. nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 01:08 PM

8. Not getting your monies worth, er, putin . . .

upset about them sanctions? Whose ya gonna buy next? You say . . . pence?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 01:10 PM

10. NYT article

Putin, Responding to Sanctions, Expels 755 U.S. Diplomats

By NEIL MacFARQUHAR JULY 30, 2017

MOSCOW — President Vladimir V. Putin announced on Sunday that 755 American diplomats would be expelled from Russia by Sept. 1 in response to the new law passed in Congress last week expanding sanctions against Russia.

Although the expulsions had been announced on Friday, the president’s statement was the first to confirm the large number involved.

Speaking in a television interview on the Rossiya 1 network, Mr. Putin said that Russia’s patience in waiting for improved relations with the United States had worn out.

“We waited for quite some time that maybe something will change for the better, had such hope that the situation will somehow change, but, judging by everything, if it changes, it will not be soon,” Mr. Putin said in the interview, according to Interfax news agency.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/30/world/europe/russia-sanctions-us-diplomats-expelled.html

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 01:12 PM

11. I wonder what Boris Epshteyn, of the new Pravada 105.5 FM Washington DC, Sinclair Broadcasting

has to say about this, fascism is now coming.

http://dcist.com/2017/06/russian-funded_news_station_replace.php



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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 01:16 PM

13. That will eliminate obstacles to direct dealings among the wrong people

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 01:35 PM

20. what a total kabuki theater being played out...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 01:36 PM

21. If we were to retaliate we would have to expel all of the Republican traitors from Congress.

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Response to kairos12 (Reply #21)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 01:50 PM

22. LOL



congressman Rohrabacher from Cali is one for sure.

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Response to kairos12 (Reply #21)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 02:07 PM

23. Noooooooo shit, k. And a whole lot of campaign staffers we don't see much of anymore...

Kin ya hear me, Flynn? Are you staying strong?
Kin ya hear me, Manafort?
Paging Carter frickin Page!
Candygram for Rudi Ghouliani!
etc etc ETC

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 02:07 PM

24. And Repugs are still saying...

...the our problems with Russia are a "nothing burger"?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 02:08 PM

25. We'll take our 755 diplomats and give him Trump and Co in exchange.

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Response to leftofcool (Reply #25)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 02:20 PM

29. We would still have to throw in a case of

Red Bull.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 02:15 PM

28. The 'always double down' strategy Trump and Putin share has only one outcome...

...both men will leave their respective offices in shame.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 02:28 PM

31. Putin's giving them Kaspersky anti virus software PCs on the way out

so there's no hard feelings.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 02:53 PM

33. I'm thinking this is all B.S., to make Trump and the other traitors look innocent.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 03:15 PM

36. boy, we really showed them!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 03:53 PM

38. "Donald, we have to pretend we don't like each other, ok?"

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 03:55 PM

39. In case they MEAN it: "Stop their activities"?? Or else WHAT?? We get no more money to launder??

We freeze their assets back here in the USA?

We let Trump and his colluders off the hook?

Cast out every last Russian diplomat or "former" KGB-turned-business "liaison"?

We never had an extradition treaty with Russia because it never considered itself our ally anyway.

The Kremlin can isolate Russia all it wants.

Fuck them. We're done eating Kremlin shit sandwiches.

Let them get on with their so-called economy without the West.

They never helped the US get the political and economic power and wealth it has now. Russia never was the US's equal in GDP or global status. So fuck Putin and the Kremlin with their old hammer and sickle.

The US and The West have never had to capitulate to Kremlin politics or economics. They never will.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #39)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 04:03 PM

43. Oh hell to the right on YEAH, ancianita!! TELL it!!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 03:57 PM

40. Richard Engel (who takes Rachel's spot on Fri.) was covering Moscow this last episode.

It was interesting and realistic. Very well done in trying to explain all the various elements and characters in this situation. It seemed that Putin isn't really angry at the Donald for putting sanctions on him (not right now anyway).

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 04:01 PM

41. Michael McFaul, ex-ambassador to Russia, is a bit skeptical of the number here:

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #41)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 08:13 PM

56. I thought the number was a typo when I saw it

I would put the number of US diplomatic, security, and intelligence personnel in Russia at no more than 500 but probably closer to 400. I'm perplexed!

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Response to lanlady (Reply #56)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 08:18 PM

57. Well now, you don't think Vlad was, you know, LYING about that number?? ....or maybe he was,

hence, causing your perplexity!?



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Response to lanlady (Reply #56)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 10:29 PM

61. Maybe he's counting family members? nt

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #41)

Mon Jul 31, 2017, 12:01 AM

62. Apparently includes Russian employees

I believe the BBC described the 755 as including Russian employees working in the various locations. I am still confused, but that might explain the seemingly large number of people.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 04:02 PM

42. Brilliant - and maybe just what Putin and 45 planned

Key assumption here is that included among those 755 diplomats are intelligence officers.

This could very well disrupt US intelligence operations in Russia, precisely what Putin would like, and the sanctions provide the cover for this action. Putin would have to conclude that the US has more to lose than Russia does with whoever the US expels.

Not only that, but the process of the disruption could enable Russian intelligence to identify Russian assets, as intelligence officers scramble for any last minute meetings or to set up/confirm means of reestablishing contact with other officers. Granted, these contact instructions are almost always set up from the outset of a relationship and confirmed during every encounter, so that may not be an issue.

To the extent that sources have alternative means of contact, these concerns may not apply. But there could be disruption of some sort, and thus Putin achieves his goal.

At the very least, the tit-for-tat moves continue the chaos and uncertainty that Putin set in place with the buffoon-in-chief.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 05:42 PM

45. There are not 755 US diplomats in Russia

 

Not even close.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 06:52 PM

47. They are the lucky ones.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 07:25 PM

51. But....

they'll miss winter!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Jul 30, 2017, 09:22 PM

59. Who picks the 755, us or them?

 

Most are spies, correct?

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