Tue Aug 1, 2017, 06:26 PM
sandensea (9,479 posts)
Facebook Shuts Down AI Robots After They Invent Their Own Language
Source: Pittsburgh CBS
Facebook has shut down a pair of artificial intelligence robots after they invented their own language. Earlier this year, the research team at Facebook Artificial Intelligence Research built a “chatbot” that was supposed to learn how to negotiate by observing and imitating human trading and bartering practices. But when the researchers pit two of the AI programs, nicknamed Alice and Bob, against each other to trade, the bots began to engage in their own form of communication. The researchers tasked the robots with trading hats, balls and books, by determining the value of each object and bartering them with each other. However, since Facebook’s researchers provided no incentive for trading in English, the programs immediately created their own terms for cutting deals. After shutting down the robot conversation, Facebook said the AI project marked important progress toward “creating chatbots that can reason, converse, and negotiate, all key steps in building a personalized digital assistant.” Read more: http://cwpittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017/08/01/facebook-shuts-down-ai-robots-after-they-invent-their-own-language/
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sandensea | Aug 2017 | OP |
VermontKevin | Aug 2017 | #1 | |
WhiskeyGrinder | Aug 2017 | #2 | |
sandensea | Aug 2017 | #5 | |
Doug the Dem | Aug 2017 | #8 | |
harun | Aug 2017 | #23 | |
WhiskeyGrinder | Aug 2017 | #27 | |
temporary311 | Aug 2017 | #33 | |
WhiskeyGrinder | Aug 2017 | #34 | |
LSFL | Aug 2017 | #3 | |
Sunlei | Aug 2017 | #4 | |
PoliticAverse | Aug 2017 | #6 | |
Dave Starsky | Aug 2017 | #11 | |
packman | Aug 2017 | #14 | |
Rollo | Aug 2017 | #7 | |
Hortensis | Aug 2017 | #18 | |
irisblue | Aug 2017 | #9 | |
FrodosNewPet | Aug 2017 | #10 | |
CountAllVotes | Aug 2017 | #12 | |
Nitram | Aug 2017 | #21 | |
hunter | Aug 2017 | #13 | |
TeamPooka | Aug 2017 | #15 | |
LudwigPastorius | Aug 2017 | #16 | |
Nitram | Aug 2017 | #20 | |
scipan | Aug 2017 | #28 | |
John1956PA | Aug 2017 | #17 | |
Nitram | Aug 2017 | #19 | |
MGKrebs | Aug 2017 | #22 | |
Nitram | Aug 2017 | #25 | |
snooper2 | Aug 2017 | #24 | |
Loki Liesmith | Aug 2017 | #26 | |
janx | Aug 2017 | #35 | |
Dreamer Tatum | Aug 2017 | #29 | |
NotASurfer | Aug 2017 | #30 | |
briv1016 | Aug 2017 | #31 | |
sandensea | Aug 2017 | #32 |
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 06:30 PM
VermontKevin (1,473 posts)
1. Skynet went live, did it?
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 06:39 PM
WhiskeyGrinder (6,777 posts)
2. This story just won't die.
Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #2)
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 06:46 PM
sandensea (9,479 posts)
5. Ah. Must be a relief to all the Sarah Connors out there.
Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #2)
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 07:18 PM
Doug the Dem (1,297 posts)
8. YOU'RE IN ON IT
Traitor!
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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #2)
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:09 AM
harun (11,264 posts)
23. How do we know you are not an AI chatbot covering for yourself?
Response to harun (Reply #23)
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 09:46 AM
WhiskeyGrinder (6,777 posts)
27. How about a nice game of chess?
Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #27)
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:50 PM
temporary311 (530 posts)
33. The only winning move
would be not to play.
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Response to temporary311 (Reply #33)
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 09:09 PM
WhiskeyGrinder (6,777 posts)
34. A strange game.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 06:43 PM
LSFL (543 posts)
3. Aye....It has begun
The robots are upon us.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 06:46 PM
Sunlei (22,391 posts)
4. after decades of player vs AI, it's impossible to build an AI that humans can't manipulate
YOUR 'personalized digital assistant' will send US free stuff
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 07:01 PM
PoliticAverse (21,258 posts)
6. Colossus: The Forbin Project (1970)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus:_The_Forbin_Project
Colossus asks to be linked to Guardian, and the president allows this in order to determine the Soviet machine's capability. Colossus and Guardian begin to communicate using simple arithmetic, quickly moving to more complex mathematics. The two machines synchronize and develop a complicated digital language that no one can interpret.
Alarmed that the computers may be trading secrets, the President and the Soviet General Secretary agree to sever the link. Both machines demand it be immediately restored. When they are denied, Colossus launches a nuclear missile at a Soviet oil field, while Guardian launches one at an American air force base. The link is hurriedly reconnected. |
Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #6)
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 07:48 PM
Dave Starsky (5,329 posts)
11. Exactly right.
A classic, still-chilling movie that not a lot of people know about. It was the precursor to The Terminator, War Games, and every other defense-computer-run-amuck movie.
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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #6)
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 09:05 PM
packman (10,953 posts)
14. God, What a memory rush
loved that movie "freedom is an illusion" - the cold, detached voice of Colossus .
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 07:09 PM
Rollo (2,108 posts)
7. Equal Rights for Robots!
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Response to Rollo (Reply #7)
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 05:59 AM
Hortensis (34,998 posts)
18. Shhh, PETA might get the idea that robots can equal attention.
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 07:25 PM
irisblue (19,424 posts)
9. Get Harold Finch, now!!
He can teach hide & seek, roulette, and how to play & value chess.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 07:30 PM
FrodosNewPet (406 posts)
10. Klaatu barada nikto, PLEASE!
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 08:34 PM
CountAllVotes (17,607 posts)
12. Fakebook sux!
Time to bail on this loser company when they start inventing their own robo talk!
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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #12)
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:03 AM
Nitram (13,885 posts)
21. I think it's kind of cool that they got that far in AI research. Don't sound like losers to me.
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 08:41 PM
hunter (30,486 posts)
13. Here's a GD thread...
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 09:12 PM
TeamPooka (16,289 posts)
15. "Open the pod bay door please Hal." "Sorry Dave, I can't do that."
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 10:18 PM
LudwigPastorius (1,402 posts)
16. The real story is...
that Facebook shut down the bots because one of them went on a vulgar tirade against the other, saying that it was "trying to suck its own output port".
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 05:50 AM
John1956PA (1,357 posts)
17. The TV station could have tempered the story to avoid implying that the bots were getting too smart.
Last edited Wed Aug 2, 2017, 06:50 AM - Edit history (2) The nascent bot-to-bot language was a natural byproduct of their assignment to divide an array of items to their mutual benefit.
Yes, Fb may be open to scrutiny over its experiment in developing bots which can seamlessly communicate with humans in Internet transactions. However, the TV station's compressed article on this technical subject leads the reader to wonder if the experiment was closed down because the bots were becoming a potential threat to cyber security. This is an example of why I usually avoid TV news programming, especially local news shows. |
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:02 AM
Nitram (13,885 posts)
19. So did FB just kill two sentient beings?
Response to Nitram (Reply #19)
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:07 AM
MGKrebs (8,128 posts)
22. Not sure they were actually killed.
Surely the bots would have anticipated this and planned a fail safe scenario where they only appear to be shut down.
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Response to MGKrebs (Reply #22)
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:28 AM
Nitram (13,885 posts)
25. Aha! Clever bots!
Response to sandensea (Original post)
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:30 AM
Loki Liesmith (3,288 posts)
26. This is so much less interesting than the headline sounds
Response to Loki Liesmith (Reply #26)
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 09:20 PM
janx (24,128 posts)
35. Always.
But people have in fact created computer codes that can mess around with algorithms--patterns and sequences of computer code that can behave strangely.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 12:49 PM
Dreamer Tatum (10,925 posts)
29. Wow - two bots invented a new language to discuss spamming people with ads
and the whole world loads its drawers.
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 06:22 PM
NotASurfer (1,205 posts)
30. Facebook was probably ok until bots invented "bigly"
We all know where that ends up
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Response to sandensea (Original post)
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:38 PM
briv1016 (1,570 posts)
31. Quick survey. Would you prefer a robotic AI overlord as president or Trump?
Response to briv1016 (Reply #31)
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:42 PM
sandensea (9,479 posts)
32. Good one! All in all, I'd take Cheeto - who at least has an 8-year limit and can actually be removed
Hal, not so much.
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