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Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 12:48 AM Aug 2017

59,000 Indian farmers have killed themselves due to rising temperaturesand it could get worse

Source: Quartz

59,000 Indian farmers have killed themselves due to rising temperatures—and it could get worse
WRITTEN BY

Devjyot Ghoshal
13 mins ago


For many weeks this summer, a group of farmers from Tamil Nadu, the southern Indian state ravaged by one of its worst droughts in over a century, has been vociferously protesting in New Delhi. Almost always clad in green and sometimes holding human skulls or dead rats, they have been attempting to lobby the Narendra Modi government for a relief package, including a farm-loan waiver.

“Due to water crisis and drought in the state, farmers are under a huge financial burden,” P Ayyakkannu, the protest’s leader, told NDTV last month. “We are almost destroyed. We don’t care if we die protesting here.”

Yet, Ayyakkannu and his group are among the more resilient ones.

Across India’s hinterland, intemperate climate during key agricultural seasons has been driving thousands of Indian farmers into despair—and suicide. In the last three decades alone, rising temperatures, and their impact on crop yields, have been responsible for an estimated 59,000 farmer suicides, according to a new study by Tamma A Carleton, a researcher at the University of California, Berkeley.


Read more: https://qz.com/1043099/59000-indian-farmers-have-killed-themselves-due-to-rising-temperatures-and-it-could-get-worse/

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59,000 Indian farmers have killed themselves due to rising temperaturesand it could get worse (Original Post) Judi Lynn Aug 2017 OP
What a horribly sad world this planet has become. democratisphere Aug 2017 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author greyl Aug 2017 #3
Irrigation? From what? Warpy Aug 2017 #4
Agricultural debts... IthinkThereforeIAM Aug 2017 #6
Yeah everything I've ever read about this subject say that the barrel Monsanto has them over is mr_lebowski Aug 2017 #17
My god. applegrove Aug 2017 #2
Horrific. n/t area51 Aug 2017 #5
May God have mercy on our souls. The_jackalope Aug 2017 #7
Amen. nt duhneece Aug 2017 #8
That's more deaths than the US suffered in Vietnam. The_jackalope Aug 2017 #9
Progress is the euphemism for greed bucolic_frolic Aug 2017 #11
"I just want my children to have it better than I did." The_jackalope Aug 2017 #12
3 decades of drought, that is more than a generation Not Ruth Aug 2017 #10
Of course. But as nations industrialize and living standards rise, Hortensis Aug 2017 #15
To put that number in perspective Progressive dog Aug 2017 #13
Rate's speeding up, tho, and those are suicides of one segment triggered by Hortensis Aug 2017 #16
The food supply problem is scary Progressive dog Aug 2017 #18
A harbinger of things to come with climate change. Nitram Aug 2017 #14

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
1. What a horribly sad world this planet has become.
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 01:02 AM
Aug 2017

What is wrong with the damn New Delhi government? What about irrigation? What about some financial support? How many more farmers will commit suicide before something is done? Unbelievable!

Response to democratisphere (Reply #1)

Warpy

(111,228 posts)
4. Irrigation? From what?
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 02:04 AM
Aug 2017

There's no groundwater and little surface water, I understand, and what little water exists is being used to drink. The province is 100% dependent on monsoons to supply fresh water, including reservoir and river water for irrigation.

I don't know what Delhi could be expected to do beyond declare a moratorium on agricultural debts until the monsoons return. Desalination plants will take time to build and will not be adequate to supply drinking water to 72,000,000+ people. Moving 72,000,000+ people and turning them into internal refugees would be insane.

Yes, this is tragic. The region has a long history of this particular tragedy in the years the monsoons fail.

And this planet is going to get a hell of a lot sadder as it warms.



 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
17. Yeah everything I've ever read about this subject say that the barrel Monsanto has them over is
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 11:07 AM
Aug 2017

what's really pushing a LOT of them over the edge.

Many, many of them invested heavily in Monsanto seeds w/o realizing that the contracts they signed to get the seeds stipulated that they weren't going to be allowed to freely use the seeds produced by what they grew (iow the way they've 'done things' for generations) ... to populate the following growing season's crop(s). They have to PAY Monsanto for the use of those seeds, ad infinitum.

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
7. May God have mercy on our souls.
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 04:42 AM
Aug 2017

Though one could argue that we neither deserve nor will receive mercy or forgiveness for what we have done.

(signed)
The being formerly known as GliderGuider

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
9. That's more deaths than the US suffered in Vietnam.
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 06:35 AM
Aug 2017

Casualties not of war but of human "progress".

In this context, Trump and the GOP are just a tiny, pathetic sideshow.

Some days we disgust me.

bucolic_frolic

(43,120 posts)
11. Progress is the euphemism for greed
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 07:07 AM
Aug 2017

ask native Americans. We've abrogated just about every treaty with them in one form or another. Now we're taking their oil and water.

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
12. "I just want my children to have it better than I did."
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 07:16 AM
Aug 2017

Multiply that by 7.5 billion.
That noble sentiment is the cause of far more planetary destruction than overt greed.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. Of course. But as nations industrialize and living standards rise,
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:53 AM
Aug 2017

populations explode. Those numbers are billions on the vertical axis. And like most of the world, India also has severe problems with disappearing fresh water. The problem's incredibly huge, but heroic efforts have been made, along with mistakes and...humans being human. In any case, we've never been here before.

If the Industrial Revolution beginning 1750 in England was accompanied by today's global warming and disappearing water effects (instead, of course, of causing them), things would not have gone so well for western nations. ?w=584

Progressive dog

(6,900 posts)
13. To put that number in perspective
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 08:30 AM
Aug 2017

44,000 Americans commit suicide each year.
https://afsp.org/about-suicide/suicide-statistics/
Those 59,000 Indian suicides took place over thirty years, a rate of less than 2000 per year.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Rate's speeding up, tho, and those are suicides of one segment triggered by
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 09:29 AM
Aug 2017

one general disastrous phenomenon. A more accurate comparison would be farm population to farm population.

For another perspective, though, the current population is well over 1.3 BILLION. Suicides suddenly sound like not so much until we realize this has to be an indicator of a growing FOOD SUPPLY problem for those 1.3 billion. Scary.

Progressive dog

(6,900 posts)
18. The food supply problem is scary
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 02:34 PM
Aug 2017

but trying to tie suicides to temperature change is not science, it is wild speculation at best.

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