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jpak

(41,742 posts)
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:00 AM Aug 2017

American tourist gives Nazi salute in Germany, is beaten up

Source: Washington Post

BERLIN — Police say a drunken American man was punched by a passer-by as he gave the stiff-armed Nazi salute multiple times in downtown Dresden.

Dresden police said Sunday the 41-year-old, whose name and hometown weren’t given for privacy reasons, suffered minor injuries in the 8:15 a.m. Saturday assault.

Police say the American, who is under investigation for violating Germany’s laws against the display of Nazi symbols or slogans, had an extremely high blood alcohol level. His assailant fled the scene, and is being sought for causing bodily harm.

It’s the second time this month that tourists have gotten themselves into legal trouble for giving the Nazi salute.

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American tourist gives Nazi salute in Germany, is beaten up (Original Post) jpak Aug 2017 OP
The Ugly, Ignorant American! Docreed2003 Aug 2017 #1
The actual proper response to a Nazi salute... forgotmylogin Aug 2017 #21
I'd probably do the same if given the opportunity! Docreed2003 Aug 2017 #22
Never gets old. byronius Aug 2017 #33
Nope, never... Scurrilous Aug 2017 #34
Thank you anonymous German citizen. Voltaire2 Aug 2017 #2
If not maybe there should a be a GoFundMe done for that citizen 47of74 Aug 2017 #24
I'm finding it hard to feel bad for laughing my ass off. nt Xipe Totec Aug 2017 #3
should up the fine to about $10K, immediately jail, send home after payment & ban from Europe. Sunlei Aug 2017 #4
don't send him here, we don't want him! SWBTATTReg Aug 2017 #5
well the Republicans nazi gang got their david duke back in USA somehow. Sunlei Aug 2017 #6
Yes, I know, go figure... SWBTATTReg Aug 2017 #9
surprised you didn't know. with internet his Republican-hate resume is online-heres a link. Sunlei Aug 2017 #12
Wow, I didn't know, but I'm not surprised SWBTATTReg Aug 2017 #13
You know he doesn't have $10K sitting around jmowreader Aug 2017 #32
In Dresden of all places DFW Aug 2017 #7
" Nazi salutes are unwelcome in Germany in the first place..." pangaia Aug 2017 #19
As a human being and especially now as PINO, trump embodies solara Aug 2017 #8
Amen! SWBTATTReg Aug 2017 #10
President Trump sends his best regards dalton99a Aug 2017 #11
Obviously a drumpf voter. lark Aug 2017 #14
oh well eezapata Aug 2017 #15
Serves the dumbfuck right WhoIsNumberNone Aug 2017 #16
Well, it's hard to feel sorry for a drunken nazi irisblue Aug 2017 #17
all ameriKans will be shit in the eyes of Europeans elmac Aug 2017 #18
he'll be bora13 Aug 2017 #20
2017: Germans fight against American Nazis nt geek tragedy Aug 2017 #23
well done The Polack MSgt Aug 2017 #26
What a slap in the face of the those Americans who served and died in WWII. minstrel76 Aug 2017 #25
Germany paid a terrible price for Hitler. Turbineguy Aug 2017 #27
I am currently in Germany... a la izquierda Aug 2017 #28
I am moving to Frankfurt permmanently in January. Doreen Aug 2017 #30
The vast majority of Germans know to not fuck around when it comes to the ideology that... LudwigPastorius Aug 2017 #29
Fighting Nazis is a SOCIAL DUTY Coventina Aug 2017 #31
AP link if, like me, you have used up your free WP quota grantcart Aug 2017 #35
IDIOT! Doug the Dem Aug 2017 #36

forgotmylogin

(7,496 posts)
21. The actual proper response to a Nazi salute...
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:56 PM
Aug 2017

is a punch in the face.

I don't condone violence, and I know most people aren't capable of this, but I have no problem with it.

SWBTATTReg

(21,859 posts)
9. Yes, I know, go figure...
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:02 AM
Aug 2017

I didn't know that he left the country...I guess no one else wanted him so he came back to the states...

1st amendment rights guarantees freedom of speech, and peaceful assembly, but not hate speech/violent acts...where's the red line here, since tRUMP is so insistent on drawing red lines everywhere?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
12. surprised you didn't know. with internet his Republican-hate resume is online-heres a link.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:08 AM
Aug 2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke

2009 arrest in the Czech Republic

In April 2009, Duke traveled to the Czech Republic on invitation by a Czech neo-Nazi group known as Národní Odpor ("National Resistance&quot to deliver three lectures in Prague and Brno to promote the Czech translation of his book My Awakening.[171] He was arrested on April 23 on suspicion of "denying or approving of the Nazi genocide and other Nazi crimes" and "promotion of movements seeking suppression of human rights," which are crimes in the Czech Republic punishable by up to three years' imprisonment. At the time of his arrest, Duke was reportedly guarded by members of the Národní Odpor.[172][173]

The police released him early on April 25 on condition that he leave the country by midnight that same day.[174][175][176]

Duke's first lecture had been scheduled at Charles University in Prague, but it was canceled after university officials learned that neo-Nazis were planning to attend.[177] Some Czech politicians, including Interior Minister Ivan Langer and Human Rights and Minorities Minister Michael Kocáb, had previously expressed opposition to Duke's being allowed entrance into the Czech Republic.[172]

In September 2009, the office of the District Prosecutor for Prague dropped all charges, explaining that there was no evidence that Duke had committed any crime.[178]

2013 expulsion from Italy; Schengen Area ban

In 2013, an Italian court ruled in favor of expelling Duke from Italy.[179] Duke, then 63, was living in mountain village Valle di Cadore in northern Italy. Although Duke had been issued a visa to live there by the Italian embassy in Malta, Italian police later found that Switzerland had issued a residence ban against Duke that applied throughout Europe's Schengen Area.[179]

SWBTATTReg

(21,859 posts)
13. Wow, I didn't know, but I'm not surprised
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:11 AM
Aug 2017

Thanks, man. I don't keep track of ilk like Duke, worthless scum...

jmowreader

(50,453 posts)
32. You know he doesn't have $10K sitting around
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 04:16 PM
Aug 2017

$250 fine, televised studio interview (with the descendant of a Holocaust survivor as the interviewer) in which he explains why he did it and apologizes for doing so, immediate removal to the airport and ejection from Europe.

DFW

(54,059 posts)
7. In Dresden of all places
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:00 AM
Aug 2017

Dresden was the site of one of the worst bombings of the war. It was an unnecessary slaughter of civilians ordered more for revenge than for strategic military purposes. The Nazis had already lost the war at this point. Only their fanaticism in refusing to admit the truth left "Bomber Harris" the excuse he needed to destroy Dresden. Nazi salutes are unwelcome in Germany in the first place, but in Dresden, hanging a sign around one's neck saying, "Schlage mich nieder (beat me up)" would probably be safer than making a salute which in Germany is still known as the "Hitlergruss."

solara

(3,832 posts)
8. As a human being and especially now as PINO, trump embodies
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:01 AM
Aug 2017

the bizarro ideals of the 'Ugly American' He has emerged from the chrysalis of manufactured social reality and, aided & abetted by a Vichy GOP, stepped into the role of a lifetime. He has become the Tyrant of the American People. trump is the de-facto leader of the neo-nazis, the white supremacists, the KKK and is the guiding beacon for Richard Spencer, David Duke and their followers. trump has made it normal for the formally cloaked and hooded KKK to throw away their hoods and commit terrorists acts in the open and with impunity.

Nothing about the last 6 months is normal. Nothing about the last year is normal.

Having Nazis, white supremacists and full-on racists in our WH and in our DOJ is abnormal.

Bannon, Miller, Gorka and the rest of the Nazis in the WH must go.

trump must go.

trump and the entire white nationalist fed- Russian lead conspiracy to put him in the WH must be rooted out and removed like the malignant cancer it is.

No wonder the world has turned against us. These trump-indoctrinated assholes think the world shares their sick and obscene take on humanity.

The world remembers.

The whole world is watching.



lark

(23,006 posts)
14. Obviously a drumpf voter.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:12 AM
Aug 2017

I sometimes see them called neo-nazis, white nationalists, alt-right but what they all have in common is they are drumpf voters. That's how I now refer to all these haters and traitors because that's what they have in common with the chickenshit who stole the WH office.

WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
16. Serves the dumbfuck right
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:19 PM
Aug 2017

Germans have zero sense of humor about that kind of shit. What an asshole to think they would.

irisblue

(32,829 posts)
17. Well, it's hard to feel sorry for a drunken nazi
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:47 PM
Aug 2017

Seig Heiling in Dresden, especially in a university area.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
18. all ameriKans will be shit in the eyes of Europeans
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:48 PM
Aug 2017

thanks to the orange nazi. Bush started it, tRump will finish it off.

minstrel76

(83 posts)
25. What a slap in the face of the those Americans who served and died in WWII.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:42 PM
Aug 2017

Even if he was never punched for what he did, he should have been arrested like those Chinese tourists that did the same thing at the Bundestag.

a la izquierda

(11,784 posts)
28. I am currently in Germany...
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:14 PM
Aug 2017

I've been living here for 6 weeks, and have six weeks to go. I had to explain to my French and Turkish housemates, and my German neighbors, exactly what in the fuck happened yesterday.
I've been crying since last night and am hoping someone here will adopt a 40 year old with a PhD.

LudwigPastorius

(8,944 posts)
29. The vast majority of Germans know to not fuck around when it comes to the ideology that...
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:30 PM
Aug 2017

essentially destroyed their country 70+ years ago.

If somebody dickpunches a Nazi (rather than tacitly excuses them with a statement of bullshit false equivalence...TRUMP) that's OK with me.

Coventina

(26,874 posts)
31. Fighting Nazis is a SOCIAL DUTY
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 04:08 PM
Aug 2017

the Germans learned this the hard way, and they haven't forgotten.

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