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Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 08:28 AM Aug 2017

Man Beaten by White Supremacists in Viral Photo Says Police May Get Sued

Source: LawNewz

Violence broke out Saturday after white nationalists met up in Charlottesville, Virginia. One incident, caught on camera, shows several white men beating up a black man. The person on the receiving end of that attack, identified as Deandre Harris, spoke to The Root about it in an interview.

“The beating happened right beside the police department, and no police were there to help me at all,” he said. “My mother is now thinking about suing the city of Charlottesville.”



The attackers “were beating me with poles,” he said. “I have eight staples in my head, a broken wrist and a chipped tooth.”

Harris’ friends and family started a GoFundMe page to fund his medical treatment. They were within several hundred dollars of their $20,000 goal on Sunday afternoon.

Read more: http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/man-beaten-by-white-supremacists-in-viral-photo-says-police-may-get-sued/
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Man Beaten by White Supremacists in Viral Photo Says Police May Get Sued (Original Post) Julian Englis Aug 2017 OP
Sue the living hell out of them!!!! ProudLib72 Aug 2017 #1
The police are complicit in all the violence. DK504 Aug 2017 #18
I would go for the city over the cops ProudLib72 Aug 2017 #22
The Nazis had BETTER weapons. Gun laws are the problem. sharedvalues Aug 2017 #51
Does anyone know the story of the other guy sprawled on the ground in this photo? tanyev Aug 2017 #2
It looks like a Nazi uniform (golf clothes) guy on the ground Not Ruth Aug 2017 #4
I agree. His clothes look like he's one of their own. tanyev Aug 2017 #6
I believe that this might be the same incident at 1:50 in the video Not Ruth Aug 2017 #3
Horrific hatred towards an innocent man peacebuzzard Aug 2017 #5
Virginia isn't a deep red state. nt brer cat Aug 2017 #38
I wish him the very best of luck, but... Orrex Aug 2017 #7
I thought that everyone is required to intervene, not just police, after Kitty Genovese Not Ruth Aug 2017 #8
Morally, sure. But legally? Not so sure. Orrex Aug 2017 #9
What an interesting story and another reason I'm glad I no longer live in NYC. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2017 #16
Right, because bad things marybourg Aug 2017 #27
No not everyone is legal required to intervene. bench scientist Aug 2017 #11
Kitty Genovese is an American myth, the police were actually called... PoliticAverse Aug 2017 #14
You ever hear of a Guilty Bystander? NobodyHere Aug 2017 #52
In general you can't sue the government under the doctrine of "soverign immunity", PoliticAverse Aug 2017 #10
Not dubiously, repeatedly, at all levels, in multiple states. X_Digger Aug 2017 #39
"Dubiously" as in "I think that the reasoning is faulty" Orrex Aug 2017 #43
A couple attackers have been identified and should be sued & CHARGED. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #12
There is no legal requirement for the police to take action even if they were present. Scruffy1 Aug 2017 #13
Arrest Daniel Borden of Mason, Ohio. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #15
Mis-identification. Criminal still unidentified as far as I know at this time Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #17
Not the same guy apparently. L. Coyote Aug 2017 #20
"Proud TradWorker" See the flag on right in my post above Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #23
TradWorker rioter (another guy) Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #24
Yes, the Traditional Workers Party was one of the Nazi organizations and he was there, L. Coyote Aug 2017 #29
Found a fuller picture of the criminal assaulter in Charlottesville Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #42
Good find. What is the source link? L. Coyote Aug 2017 #44
I think it was in this set of 105. Many there I had not seen Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #45
Image 14 of 106 L. Coyote Aug 2017 #46
In your second image, note person of interest walking behind Tubbs with furled flag pole in hand. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #47
Yep, these leaders of the walk were together at the assault, and Gingerbeard used that flagpole to L. Coyote Aug 2017 #48
Is Odinsson his legal last name? cagefreesoylentgreen Aug 2017 #25
No. "People are saying...." L. Coyote Aug 2017 #28
Sue the assailants and their hate organizations. L. Coyote Aug 2017 #19
We were watching the early live footage of the violence... Eyeball_Kid Aug 2017 #21
Wrong - Charlottesville is extremely blue, extremely diverse, and extremely progressive obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #30
The racists have some organizations centered in Charlottesville Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2017 #33
I admit that I can't read a lot of the reporting, Cracklin Charlie Aug 2017 #34
Well, come on; the only difference between the police and the Nazis were the badges. Aristus Aug 2017 #26
His mother cannot sue Charlottesville obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #31
Why not? procon Aug 2017 #36
It's a long standing principle that the police have no legal obligation to help you. X_Digger Aug 2017 #40
Has the man in riot gear... Cracklin Charlie Aug 2017 #32
Lock them all up! smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #35
Sessions needs to designate this as a hate crime. procon Aug 2017 #37
It would be a waste of time and money sarisataka Aug 2017 #41
Anybody notice how they run in packs like wild dogs? On his own, I'm willing to bet that none of.... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #49
It's because they get a discount when they buy multiple hoods Orrex Aug 2017 #50

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
1. Sue the living hell out of them!!!!
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 08:32 AM
Aug 2017

Make any city contemplating letting these terrorists loose on its streets think long and hard about possible consequences.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
18. The police are complicit in all the violence.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 09:32 AM
Aug 2017

They refused to move on the site when the tensions began to fo through the roof. They allowed this.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
22. I would go for the city over the cops
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 10:13 AM
Aug 2017

It's a lot more difficult to go after police. A city does not want to become blacklisted. If they go after the city for allowing this to happen and win, then they set a precedent for other cities not giving the Nazis rally permits. Plus, it will piss off the mayor who will then turn his ire toward the police and chew them out. Yep, the most effective way to deal with the cops is sic the mayor on them.

tanyev

(42,358 posts)
2. Does anyone know the story of the other guy sprawled on the ground in this photo?
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 08:33 AM
Aug 2017

He's in the background, near the feet of the faux militia guys with their backs to the camera. I just noticed him last night when I took another look at this picture.

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
4. It looks like a Nazi uniform (golf clothes) guy on the ground
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 08:38 AM
Aug 2017

Check out the video. A ton of press around, so we should start to see video and photos from all angles.

tanyev

(42,358 posts)
6. I agree. His clothes look like he's one of their own.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 08:51 AM
Aug 2017

But his body language says injured or unconscious and none of his comrades seem the least bit concerned. Thanks for the video-there was a moment where it looked like one of the guys bent down to check on him, but it was brief. I guess that's what you get when your buddies are Nazi thugs.

peacebuzzard

(5,124 posts)
5. Horrific hatred towards an innocent man
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 08:39 AM
Aug 2017

So lucky he survived. It is wise to keep a camera handy. Especially in a deep red state, where this incident may have inflamed a roar of like-hatred.

Orrex

(63,084 posts)
7. I wish him the very best of luck, but...
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 08:52 AM
Aug 2017

Hasn't the SCOTUS dubiously ruled that police are not obligated to intervene?

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
8. I thought that everyone is required to intervene, not just police, after Kitty Genovese
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 08:56 AM
Aug 2017

There were a ton of press who chose to photograph and video instead of intervening. I recall a similar incident a couple of years ago where press photographed a guy being run over by a subway, instead of intervening. They were crucified.

Orrex

(63,084 posts)
9. Morally, sure. But legally? Not so sure.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 09:00 AM
Aug 2017

I will happily defer to anyone with a better understanding of the legal principles here, but the SCOTUS case seems to make it fairly clear.

Check out this first-hand account of police standing by and failing to intervene even when a citizen was at immediate risk of being stabbed to death, for example.

bench scientist

(1,107 posts)
11. No not everyone is legal required to intervene.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 09:03 AM
Aug 2017

You do not have to intervene on behalf of another, potentially putting yourself at risk of harm.
Morally is another question of course.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
14. Kitty Genovese is an American myth, the police were actually called...
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 09:13 AM
Aug 2017

From the article from the New York Times published when her convicted killer died.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/05/nyregion/winston-moseley-81-killer-of-kitty-genovese-dies-in-prison.html

While there was no question that the attack occurred, and that some neighbors ignored cries for help, the portrayal of 38 witnesses as fully aware and unresponsive was erroneous. The article grossly exaggerated the number of witnesses and what they had perceived. None saw the attack in its entirety. Only a few had glimpsed parts of it, or recognized the cries for help. Many thought they had heard lovers or drunks quarreling. There were two attacks, not three. And afterward, two people did call the police. A 70-year-old woman ventured out and cradled the dying victim in her arms until they arrived. Ms. Genovese died on the way to a hospital.

In general in the US there are no laws imposing a "duty to rescue", see...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_to_rescue

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
10. In general you can't sue the government under the doctrine of "soverign immunity",
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 09:02 AM
Aug 2017

and in general absent specific laws allowing you to do so, you can't sue the Police for lack of action.

The 2005 case was a special case because it involved the Police not enforcing a domestic
violence restraining order that had been granted, even so the decision was 7-2 against
allowing the suit. See:
Town of Castle Rock v. Gonzales
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
39. Not dubiously, repeatedly, at all levels, in multiple states.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 07:24 PM
Aug 2017
South v. Maryland (1858)

Cocking v. Wade (1896)

Riss v. City of New York - 1967

http://lawschool.courtroomview.com/acf_cases/10107-riss-v-new-york

Brief Fact Summary

Plaintiff was harassed by a rejected suitor, who claimed he would kill or seriously injure her if she dated someone else. Plaintiff repeatedly asked for police protection and was ignored. After the news of her engagement, the plaintiff was again threatened and called the police to no avail. The next day, a thug, sent by the rejected suitor, partially blinded the plaintiff and disfigured her face.

Rule of Law and Holding

The municipality does not have a duty to provide police protection to an individual. It has a duty to the public as a whole, but no one in particular.


Keane v. Chicago, 98 Ill. App.2d 460, 240 N.E.2d 321 (1st Dist. 1968)

Silver v. Minneapolis, 170 N.W.2d 206 (Minn. 1969)

Antique Arts Corp. v. City of Torrance (1974)

Hartzler v. City of San Jose, 46 Cal. App.3d 6 (1st Dist. 1975)

The first amended complaint alleged in substance: On September 4, 1972, plaintiff's decedent, Ruth Bunnell, telephoned the main office of the San Jose Police Department and reported that her estranged husband, Mack Bunnell, had called her, saying that he was coming to her residence to kill her. She requested immediate police aid; the department refused to come to her aid at that time, and asked that she call the department again when Mack Bunnell had arrived.

Approximately 45 minutes later, Mack Bunnell arrived at her home and stabbed her to death. The police did not arrive until 3 a.m., in response to a call of a neighbor. By this time Mrs. Bunnell was dead.
...
(1) Appellant contends that his complaint stated a cause of action for wrongful death under Code of Civil Procedure section 377, and that the cause survived under Probate Code section 573. The claim is barred by the provisions of the California Tort Claims Act (Gov. Code, § 810 et seq.), particularly section 845, which states: "Neither a public entity nor a public employee is liable for failure to establish a police department or otherwise provide police protection service or, if police protection service is provided, for failure to provide sufficient police protection service."


Sapp v. Tallahassee, 348 So.2d 363 (Fla. App. 1st Dist.), cert. denied 354 So.2d 985 (Fla. 1977); Ill. Rec. Stat. 4-102

Jamison v. Chicago, 48 Ill. App. 3d 567 (1st Dist. 1977)

Wuetrich V. Delia, 155 N.J. Super. 324, 326, 382, A.2d 929, 930 cert. denied 77 N.J. 486, 391 A.2d 500 (1978)

Stone v. State, 106 Cal.App.3d 924, 165 Cal Rep. 339 (1980)

Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C.App 1981)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

The Court, however, does not agree that defendants owed a specific legal duty to plaintiffs with respect to the allegations made in the amended complaint for the reason that the District of Columbia appears to follow the well established rule that official police personnel and the government employing them are not generally liable to victims of criminal acts for failure to provide adequate police protection. This uniformly accepted rule rests upon the fundamental principle that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any particular individual citizen.


Chapman v. Philadelphia, 290 Pa. Super. 281, 434 A.2d 753 (Penn. 1981)

Bowers v. DeVito, 686 F.2d 616 (7th Cir. 1982)

Davidson v. Westminster, 32 Cal.3d 197, 185, Cal. Rep. 252; 649 P.2d 894 (1982)

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=11611213653413829948&q=Davidson+v.+City+of+Westminster&hl=en&as_sdt=2,44&as_vis=1

Morgan v. District of Columbia, 468 A.2d 1306 (D.C.App. 1983) (Only those in custody are deserving of individual police protection)

Morris v. Musser, 84 Pa. Cmwth. 170, 478 A.2d 937 (1984)

Calogrides v. Mobile, 475 So. 2d 560 (Ala. 1985); Cal Govt. Code 845

Ashburn v. Anne Arundel County (1986)

In 1986, the Maryland Court of Appeals was again presented in Ashburn v. Anne Arundel County with an action in civil liability involving the failure of law enforcement to enforce the law. In this case, a police officer, Freeberger, found an intoxicated man in a running pickup truck sitting in front of convenience store. Although he could have arrested the driver, the police officer told the driver to pull the truck over to the side of the lot and to discontinue driving that evening. Instead, shortly after the law enforcement officer left, the intoxicated driver pulled out of the lot and collided with a pedestrian, Ashburn, who as a direct result of the accident sustained severe injuries and lost a leg. After Ashburn brought suit against the driver, Officer Freeberger, the police department, and Anne Arundel County, the trial court dismissed charges against the later three, holding Freeberger owed no special duty to the plaintiff, the county was immune from liability, and that the police department was not a separate legal entity.
...
The Court of Appeals further noted the general tort law rule that, "absent a 'special relationship' between police and victim, liability for failure to protect an individual citizen against injury caused by another citizen does not rely against police officers." Using terminology from the public duty doctrine, the court noted that any duty the police in protecting the public owed was to the general public and not to any particular citizen..


DeShaney v. Winnebago County, 489 U.S. 189 (1989)

Castle Rock v. Gonzales, 545 U.S. 748 (2005)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales

During divorce proceedings, Jessica Gonzales, a resident of Castle Rock, Colorado, obtained a restraining order against her husband on June 4, 1999, requiring him to remain at least 100 yards from her and their three daughters except during specified visitation time. On June 22, at approximately 5:15 pm, her husband took possession of the three children in violation of the order. Gonzales called the police at approximately 7:30 pm, 8:30 pm, 10:10 pm, and 12:15 am on June 23, and visited the police station in person at 12:40 am on June 23, 1999. However, the police took no action, despite the husband's having called Gonzales prior to her second call to the police and informing her that he had the children with him at an amusement park in Denver, Colorado. At approximately 3:20 am on June 23, 1999, the husband appeared at the Castle Rock police station and instigated a fatal shoot-out with the police. A search of his vehicle revealed the corpses of the three daughters, whom the husband had killed prior to his arrival.
...
The Court's majority opinion by Justice Antonin Scalia held that enforcement of the restraining order was not mandatory under Colorado law; were a mandate for enforcement to exist, it would not create an individual right to enforcement that could be considered a protected entitlement under the precedent of Board of Regents of State Colleges v. Roth; and even if there were a protected individual entitlement to enforcement of a restraining order, such entitlement would have no monetary value and hence would not count as property for the Due Process Clause.

Justice David Souter wrote a concurring opinion, using the reasoning that enforcement of a restraining order is a process, not the interest protected by the process, and that there is not due process protection for processes.

Orrex

(63,084 posts)
43. "Dubiously" as in "I think that the reasoning is faulty"
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 08:12 PM
Aug 2017

And I don't care how many judges have signed on.

At the very least, if cops have no special duty to protect, they should enjoy no special privilege of protection. A crime against a cop should therefore be treated no differently from a crime against a civilian. No greater penalty, no immediate justification of deadly force, no seizure of assets, none of it.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,786 posts)
12. A couple attackers have been identified and should be sued & CHARGED.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 09:05 AM
Aug 2017

Where are the police arresting and charging them?

Scruffy1

(3,239 posts)
13. There is no legal requirement for the police to take action even if they were present.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 09:11 AM
Aug 2017

The fact that this happened close to the police station is irrelevant and of course the police usually only have a few on duty inside the station to answer the phone and handle whatever. Even if a police person were standing there watching this, there is no legal requirement to take action. It's up to individual judgement.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,786 posts)
15. Arrest Daniel Borden of Mason, Ohio.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 09:14 AM
Aug 2017

Daniel (Dan) Borden from Mason, OH
Daniel Dan Borden
Dan Boc Borden

He's deleted his Facebook page.

Neck moles gave it away. https://t.co/LlcPqBAxqF

https://everipedia.org/wiki/daniel-dan-borden/



Bernardo de La Paz

(48,786 posts)
17. Mis-identification. Criminal still unidentified as far as I know at this time
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 09:23 AM
Aug 2017

Last edited Mon Aug 14, 2017, 08:28 PM - Edit history (2)

{on edit: original identification now believed to be incorrect}

Still need to identify the violent criminal.
He's on the left murderously beating Deandre:



Clear picture of the man:



Bernardo de La Paz

(48,786 posts)
23. "Proud TradWorker" See the flag on right in my post above
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 10:34 AM
Aug 2017

We don't know when the image with the shorter beard was taken. It may have been months before even though the Facebook update was Aug. 8.

Here's his facebook page. Loves Turner Diaries (race war fantasy) and lots of Nazi goober stuff.
https://www.facebook.com/people/Kristoffer-Odinsson/100012423307758

Southern Poverty Law Center article
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/traditionalist-worker-party




L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
29. Yes, the Traditional Workers Party was one of the Nazi organizations and he was there,
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 11:29 AM
Aug 2017

but we are looking to identify the guy in the red beard. All his friends and his friend's friends are searched, downloaded, stored, etc.

There are plenty of images of the event. We will soon know what he was wearing, etc.




Note his small size compared to Michael Tubbs, felon, weapons and explosives thief.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,786 posts)
42. Found a fuller picture of the criminal assaulter in Charlottesville
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 08:12 PM
Aug 2017

Everipedia is now saying he was wrongly identified as Odinsson / Johnson. (Editing my root post)

Still must be identified.



L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
44. Good find. What is the source link?
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 08:43 PM
Aug 2017

Looks like a Hearst domain fir image storage. Better image of the shirt logo if that helps. The NC group is into white shirts.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
46. Image 14 of 106
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 09:18 PM
Aug 2017
Photo: Anadolu Agency/Getty Images
Image 14 of 106

CHARLOTTESVILLE, USA - August 12: A White Supremacist helps a friend after he was punched in the face during clashes with counter protestors at Emancipation Park where the White Nationalists are protesting the removal of the Robert E. Lee monument in Charlottesville, Va., USA on August 12, 2017. (Photo by Samuel Corum/Anadolu Agency/Getty Images)

Here's the leader of the beating and much of the clashing, a known criminal (image 23). Florida state chairman Michael Tubbs, another veteran who went on to lead the Florida League of the South after he was released from prison for his role in a plot to bomb Jewish and black-owned businesses in Jacksonville, Florida. Tubbs was photographed in several brawls throughout the day.



L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
48. Yep, these leaders of the walk were together at the assault, and Gingerbeard used that flagpole to
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 11:38 PM
Aug 2017

crack skull.

25. Is Odinsson his legal last name?
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 10:51 AM
Aug 2017

A lot of white supremacists think they "honor" Viking culture by taking on Norse names, either informally or legally. Would be good to know in this is his actual name.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,410 posts)
21. We were watching the early live footage of the violence...
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 10:01 AM
Aug 2017

... and what we FIRST NOTICED was that there were NO LEOs present to restrain the violence. But they knew of the coming confrontations for days. Yet they stood by and did nothing. This should signal to anyone with common sense that the local police were COMPLICIT in the violence and favored violence that they knew was coming. They wanted to see heads busted-- the heads of counter protesters and blacks.

Charlottesville, Virginia: the destination for racists, and the LAST place I'll want to visit. Well done, Charlottesville PD. You showed your true color: WHITE ONLY.

obamanut2012

(25,911 posts)
30. Wrong - Charlottesville is extremely blue, extremely diverse, and extremely progressive
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 11:36 AM
Aug 2017

And, the racists chose Cville because of this. That is why it was the "destination for racists."

It is also a very beautiful, historic, and dynamic college town.

You should be blaming the VAST and the VANG, who took over from the CPD, who in no way could handle something like this. They are much more not experienced or competent for something like this. They heve chained prisoners escape out of police vans, for goodness' sake. I have friends on the ground there, and there will be an investigation of how the Staties and NG handled this.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,786 posts)
33. The racists have some organizations centered in Charlottesville
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 12:06 PM
Aug 2017

Early National Vanguard & Vanguard America.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
34. I admit that I can't read a lot of the reporting,
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 12:17 PM
Aug 2017

Bad for my blood pressure. But, a lot of the racists at this event seem to have travelled to Charlottesville. Ohio, California, Texas...

I'm sure they have their share of home grown bigots...but it's unfair to blame all of this on the citizens of the victimized city, when so many seem to have travelled a fair distance to attend the hate fest. From som of the stories coming out today, it would seem like the racists went there spoiling for a fight, and we're determined to cause violence.

Aristus

(66,091 posts)
26. Well, come on; the only difference between the police and the Nazis were the badges.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 10:51 AM
Aug 2017

Sue the hell out of the city!

procon

(15,805 posts)
36. Why not?
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 01:04 PM
Aug 2017

I successfully challenged Los Angeles County. My brother in law sued the City of Valencia. Government entities are sued all the time. It doesn't matter if the lawsuit is frivolous or unlikely to win, if you can afford the filing fees, you can sue anybody for any reason. The trick, of course, is proving your case in court.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
40. It's a long standing principle that the police have no legal obligation to help you.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 07:30 PM
Aug 2017

An officer could step over an assailant stabbing you to death to get to a donut shop and there's not shit you (or your heirs) could do.

See e.g. this California statute:

California Tort Claims Act (Gov. Code, § 810 et seq.), section 845, which states: "Neither a public entity nor a public employee is liable for failure to establish a police department or otherwise provide police protection service or, if police protection service is provided, for failure to provide sufficient police protection service."




Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
32. Has the man in riot gear...
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 12:05 PM
Aug 2017

Behind the no account racist loser on the far right been identified?

That guy seems to be either shielding that attacker, or something else really weird. He gives me a creepy, agent provocateur vibe.

procon

(15,805 posts)
37. Sessions needs to designate this as a hate crime.
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 01:18 PM
Aug 2017

People care about injustice. The Internet is full of super sleuths who want to help track down the terrorists who assaulted him. Strangers he will never meet, donated to his gofundme page and exceeded the goal, collecting $106,534 of $50k goal. I hope that his physical injuries heal quickly, and more importantly, his family and friends need to make sure he doesn't neglect his mental health.

sarisataka

(18,216 posts)
41. It would be a waste of time and money
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 07:44 PM
Aug 2017

It has been well established the police have no duty to protect anyone not in their custody

Tarheel_Dem

(31,207 posts)
49. Anybody notice how they run in packs like wild dogs? On his own, I'm willing to bet that none of....
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 12:56 AM
Aug 2017

these assholes would have confronted the victim, but in pack, there's safety. Cowards! Every one of them.

Orrex

(63,084 posts)
50. It's because they get a discount when they buy multiple hoods
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 07:18 AM
Aug 2017

And also because those stupid fuckers are cowards.

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