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HAB911

(8,867 posts)
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 11:12 AM Aug 2017

ON EVE OF TRIAL, PSYCHOLOGISTS AGREE TO HISTORIC SETTLEMENT IN ACLU CASE ON BEHALF OF

Source: ACLU

NEW YORK — In a first for a case involving CIA torture, the American Civil Liberties Union announced a settlement today in the lawsuit against the two psychologists who designed and implemented the agency’s brutal program. A jury trial was scheduled to begin on September 5, after the plaintiffs successfully overcame every attempt by the psychologists to have the case dismissed.

The lawsuit was brought by the ACLU on behalf of Suleiman Abdullah Salim, Mohamed Ahmed Ben Soud, and the family of Gul Rahman, who froze to death in a secret CIA prison. The three men were tortured and experimented on using methods developed by the CIA-contracted psychologists, James Mitchell and John “Bruce” Jessen.

“This is a historic victory for our clients and the rule of law,” said ACLU attorney Dror Ladin. “This outcome shows that there are consequences for torture and that survivors can and will hold those responsible for torture accountable. It is a clear warning for anyone who thinks they can torture with impunity.”

The full terms of the settlement agreement are confidential.

Read more: https://www.aclu.org/news/cia-torture-psychologists-settle-lawsuit

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ON EVE OF TRIAL, PSYCHOLOGISTS AGREE TO HISTORIC SETTLEMENT IN ACLU CASE ON BEHALF OF (Original Post) HAB911 Aug 2017 OP
Oh, Donnie's going to be tweeting now! Kleveland Aug 2017 #1
I feel cheated HAB911 Aug 2017 #3
"The full terms of the settlement agreement are confidential." atreides1 Aug 2017 #2
Yes PatSeg Aug 2017 #5
It's murder. Those carrying out the orders should also onit2day Aug 2017 #7
Exactly PatSeg Aug 2017 #8
Yes. A crime committed in our name They_Live Aug 2017 #9
When there are no meaningful consequences, PatSeg Aug 2017 #10
And, at that time, I kept telling myself They_Live Aug 2017 #12
"Oh, oops sorry." PatSeg Aug 2017 #13
republican embrace of torture is pure anti-christ evil Achilleaze Aug 2017 #4
Yeah for the ACLU Gothmog Aug 2017 #6
K&R Solly Mack Aug 2017 #11

Kleveland

(1,257 posts)
1. Oh, Donnie's going to be tweeting now!
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 11:15 AM
Aug 2017

He is going to have a sad about this!

Can we all file a law suit, since he is surely, and unrelentingly torturing our heart and souls?

atreides1

(16,066 posts)
2. "The full terms of the settlement agreement are confidential."
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 11:17 AM
Aug 2017

Which means the ACLU could have settled for buttered scones and tea, for all we know! It also insures that those two malignant cysts, can continue to use their Josef Mengele practices to torture more people!!!

PatSeg

(47,275 posts)
5. Yes
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 11:46 AM
Aug 2017

It doesn't seem like they had to suffer the consequences of their actions. So are they still allowed to practice psychology or keep their accreditation? Is the only punishment monetary? “This outcome shows that there are consequences for torture ." I would hope that the consequences for torture would be more than financial.

 

onit2day

(1,201 posts)
7. It's murder. Those carrying out the orders should also
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 02:56 PM
Aug 2017

be punished. The real accountability will only come when people responsible are jailed.

PatSeg

(47,275 posts)
8. Exactly
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 03:07 PM
Aug 2017

And I'm sick and tired of these "confidential settlements". A crime was committed in our name and we have the right to know how these criminals will pay for it. They do not deserve any protection.

They_Live

(3,224 posts)
9. Yes. A crime committed in our name
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 07:01 PM
Aug 2017

and paid for by us. They should be locked in stockades in the town square.

PatSeg

(47,275 posts)
10. When there are no meaningful consequences,
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 11:16 PM
Aug 2017

it gives others permission to commit crimes. We see it with politicians all the time. So many in the Bush administration walked away, as if nothing had happened.

They_Live

(3,224 posts)
12. And, at that time, I kept telling myself
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 09:05 AM
Aug 2017

that "the bad guys are getting away". As you said, no consequences, and even protection from consequences after the fact.

PatSeg

(47,275 posts)
13. "Oh, oops sorry."
Fri Aug 18, 2017, 10:49 AM
Aug 2017

"We made a mistake. We'll just get out of your way and let you clean up the mess we made." For the most part, they all just went back to their normal lives, many appearing frequently as contributors or hosts on television. Hey, great time to write a book! They played with the world, as if it is their own personal board game and apparently suffer no pangs of conscience about all the death and pain they've caused.

We have set it up for this to happen again and again.

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