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laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 08:03 PM Aug 2017

Kaepernick Items Added to BLM Exhibit at Smithsonian

Source: EurWeb

The Smithsonian’s National Museum of African American History will include items from Colin Kaepernick’s national anthem protest as part of its Black Lives Matter collection.

“The National Museum of African American History and Culture has nearly 40,000 items in our collection,” the museum’s sports curator, Damion Thomas, told USA Today’s A.J. Perez on Friday. “The Colin Kaepernick collection is in line with the museum’s larger collecting efforts to document the varied areas of society that have been impacted by the Black Lives Matter movement.”


The effort was spearheaded in May by sports sociologist and civil rights activist Harry Edwards.

“I said, ‘Don’t wait 50 years to try to get some memorabilia and so forth on Kaepernick'” Edwards told USA Today. “‘Let me give you a game jersey, some shoes, a picture. … And it should be put right there alongside Muhammad Ali. He’s this generation’s Ali.'”

Read more: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eurweb.com/2017/08/colin-kaepernick-items-added-black-lives-matter-exhibit-smithsonians-nmaahc/amp/

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Kaepernick Items Added to BLM Exhibit at Smithsonian (Original Post) laserhaas Aug 2017 OP
Nothing like Ali MichMan Aug 2017 #1
Kaepernick was ballsy to protest against the National Anthem .... DK504 Aug 2017 #2
Honoring someone who disrespected the National Anthem? left-of-center2012 Aug 2017 #3
Boy...am I in the wrong place laserhaas Aug 2017 #4
My thoughts too. Cobalt Violet Aug 2017 #12
I suffer from similar snide remarks and disigenuous banter laserhaas Aug 2017 #28
We sure as HELL are not at a democratic party or liberal website, THAT is for Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #26
It is a sick state of affairs; but par for the course. laserhaas Aug 2017 #27
And as he has his faults, like all of us, when the heat was on after he did it the Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #29
Too bad he didn't bother to vote. CrispyQ Aug 2017 #32
Uh huh Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #33
I don't think his being a good or bad player has secondwind Aug 2017 #5
Me too! laserhaas Aug 2017 #7
A patriot HAB911 Aug 2017 #15
I hope they included the picture of him voting against Trump FLPanhandle Aug 2017 #19
I'm sure he'll allow your sentiment all the attention it indeed, warrants. LanternWaste Aug 2017 #20
Mindboggling laserhaas Aug 2017 #34
K&R Solly Mack Aug 2017 #6
Thanks laserhaas Aug 2017 #8
You're welcome. I'm a fan of Kaepernick. Solly Mack Aug 2017 #11
Meh... Who cares...? Baconator Aug 2017 #9
It's not about his playing. Cobalt Violet Aug 2017 #10
Odd though that you grasp onto the hackneyed irrelevance of ratings and sports performance LanternWaste Aug 2017 #21
I'll clarify... Baconator Aug 2017 #24
LameBlah laserhaas Aug 2017 #35
What's that there, Sonny? Baconator Aug 2017 #37
Slate: Colin Kaepernick Won Doug the Dem Aug 2017 #13
Concur! The very fact the white mae managed NFL has laserhaas Aug 2017 #14
+++++++++++ HAB911 Aug 2017 #16
Let's not pretend Colin is the first athlete to ever stand up Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #18
Too bad a fucking voter registration card won't be on exhibit... Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #17
Yeah..ain'ters & haters laserhaas Aug 2017 #22
Sorry... I don't care how 'woke' somebody is Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #25
K&R.. disillusioned73 Aug 2017 #23
When I enlisted in the Army Cold War Spook Aug 2017 #30
That's because your loyalty is to what is right & good laserhaas Aug 2017 #31
Ali sacrificed a lot more MichMan Aug 2017 #36
Another ...turned into supporter..who said he would sit laserhaas Aug 2017 #38

MichMan

(11,912 posts)
1. Nothing like Ali
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 08:11 PM
Aug 2017

Ali was at the top of his sport for many years and an international superstar. Kaepernick had one decent season

DK504

(3,847 posts)
2. Kaepernick was ballsy to protest against the National Anthem ....
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 08:17 PM
Aug 2017

I don't think he's all that great as a QB though. He was a 2nd stringer and thought he was better. Alex Smith got screwed.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
28. I suffer from similar snide remarks and disigenuous banter
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 01:07 PM
Aug 2017

It seems that nyms permit rude & crude.

The man made a statement Yuuuge...

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
26. We sure as HELL are not at a democratic party or liberal website, THAT is for
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 01:00 PM
Aug 2017

FUCKING SURE

Colin is a fucking national hero.

Period, and one hell of a QB.

Has accomplished more in his relatively short life than all of these ATTACKERS have in their lifetimes combined.

FUCK THIS

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
27. It is a sick state of affairs; but par for the course.
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 01:06 PM
Aug 2017

When Ali objected (saying no Vietnamese ever called him N....)

They called him a coward, traitor and death threats.

Colin has not backed down; and all this spiteful banter just proves his stance is very necessary.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
29. And as he has his faults, like all of us, when the heat was on after he did it the
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 01:09 PM
Aug 2017

first time, he did not do what MOST (I want to say something but dont want to be banned) would do which is to buckle instantly and be a coward.

You want a patriot and hero to take a stand and risk his career? Talk to Colin.

You want a bunch of monday morning QB's who never played the game, can barely get off their couch, and NEVER risked their career or life or ANYTHING for civil rights...well, you know where they are too.

CrispyQ

(36,460 posts)
32. Too bad he didn't bother to vote.
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 01:27 PM
Aug 2017
"You know, I think it would be hypocritical of me to vote," Kaepernick told reporters. "I said from the beginning I was against oppression, I was against the system of oppression. I'm not going to show support for that system. And to me, the oppressor isn't going to allow you to vote your way out of your oppression." 11/15/16

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/14/sport/49ers-qb-colin-kaepernick-explains-why-he-didnt-vote/index.html


Seriously, wtf? What good is your protest without your vote? From previous threads, I know the OP thinks this borders on hate talk, but it's not. It's a valid question. If voting really didn't matter, the GOP wouldn't be working so hard to disenfranchise minority voters.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
5. I don't think his being a good or bad player has
Mon Aug 21, 2017, 10:04 PM
Aug 2017

Anything to do with this. He stood by his principles and did not flinch. That is why his jersey is in the museum. I applaud him for his bravery.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
19. I hope they included the picture of him voting against Trump
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 08:37 AM
Aug 2017

Oh wait...he never voted against Trump. If he wasn't brave enough to enter a voting booth, then screw him.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. I'm sure he'll allow your sentiment all the attention it indeed, warrants.
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 09:43 AM
Aug 2017

I'm sure he'll allow your sentiment all the attention it indeed, warrants. And I'm quite sure you'll rationalize that as your own constructive and ethical stand.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
21. Odd though that you grasp onto the hackneyed irrelevance of ratings and sports performance
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 09:47 AM
Aug 2017

Anyone clicking on this thread, and investing enough to respond obviously cares to one degree or another.

Odd though that you grasp onto the hackneyed irrelevance of ratings and sports performance in regards to civil rights. I get it, though... priorities, and all.

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
24. I'll clarify...
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 12:14 PM
Aug 2017

A bit player in the context of race and politics and his stuff being of historical significance...

The fact that he is a mediocre NFL player is a given but not really relevant to the conversation.

 

Doug the Dem

(1,297 posts)
13. Slate: Colin Kaepernick Won
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 04:40 AM
Aug 2017
In angering the NFL’s white billionaire owners, the quarterback lost his job but started a movement.

On March 17, Colin Kaepernick celebrated the success of a joint effort to prod Turkish Airlines to fly 60 tons of food and aid to people in Somalia. That same day, Bleacher Report’s Mike Freeman reported that, in the words of an anonymous NFL executive, a good proportion of league decision-makers “genuinely hate” the anthem-protesting quarterback “and can’t stand what he did. They want nothing to do with him. They won’t move on. They think showing no interest is a form of punishment. I think some teams also want to use Kaepernick as a cautionary tale to stop other players in the future from doing what he did.” Three days after that, the president of the United States bragged in the third person that “NFL owners don’t want to pick [Kaepernick] up because they don’t want to get a nasty tweet from Donald Trump.”

Five months later, Kaepernick—who threw 16 touchdown passes and just four interceptions for the San Francisco 49ers last season—remains unsigned, just as Trump predicted. Back in August 2016, when Kaepernick made the simple, radical decision to stay seated for “The Star-Spangled Banner,” nobody noticed or cared. When reporters finally asked him about it a few weeks later, the quarterback explained he was protesting police brutality and noted that in some jurisdictions cosmetologists get more rigorous training than cops. Kaepernick’s on-field demonstration, and his explanation for it, spawned a level of hatred—Exhibit A: Tomi Lahren’s vow to “eviscerate [Kaepernick’s] mouth diarrhea”—beyond even what New York Jets fans direct toward their team on Sunday afternoons. At the same time, he won the grudging respect of then-President Barack Obama and earned plaudits from a huge proportion of the press and pro football fans, who made his jersey the top seller in the league’s online shop.

Colin Kaepernick can’t reasonably be described as an unpopular figure. He is a uniquely polarizing one. One year after he began his protest, Kaepernick has won with the media and lost with the man. We should not be shocked that a league that polices players’ touchdown celebrations would not abide a quarterback who took a knee for social justice. The NFL has always been and will always be a redoubt for reactionaries. It is also a closed system, one controlled by billionaires whose views are much further outside the mainstream than Kaepernick’s.

In November, the Guardian reported that NFL owners donated 42 times more cash—$8,052,410 vs. $189,610.72—to Republican causes as compared with Democratic ones in 2015 and 2016. The Daily Beast subsequently wrote that of the $107 million raised to finance Donald Trump’s inauguration, the NFL’s money men chipped in roughly 7 percent, with Washington’s Dan Snyder, the Cowboys’ Jerry Jones, the Rams’ Stan Kroenke, the Patriots’ Robert Kraft, the Texans’ Bob McNair, the Jaguars’ Shahid Khan, and the Jets’ Woody Johnson giving $1 million each. Johnson, for his part, was recently confirmed as the U.S. ambassador to the United Kingdom.

https://slate.com/sports/2017/08/colin-kaepernicks-protest-cost-him-his-job-but-started-a-movement.html


NFL owners: Neanderthals Fearing Liberty.
 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
14. Concur! The very fact the white mae managed NFL has
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 06:41 AM
Aug 2017

spurned Kaepernick, so much....sorely demonstrates and

vindicates the fact that racial equality dynamics Colin seeks to bring, are in dire need of addressing.

Pathetic state of affairs, that racial inequality continues!

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
18. Let's not pretend Colin is the first athlete to ever stand up
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 08:37 AM
Aug 2017

and get blackballed out of his sport...

And even though his heart is in the right place, he's done a lot of stupid shit too, (i.e., trying to lib-splain Castro to an exiled reporter during a presser in Miami)

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
25. Sorry... I don't care how 'woke' somebody is
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 12:56 PM
Aug 2017

Last edited Tue Aug 22, 2017, 04:37 PM - Edit history (1)

when they start that "both candidates are the same/stay home/your vote doesn't count" bullshit, I tune them out... Funny how GOP voters never have to deal with this every two years from the usual suspects...

EDIT: And I don't need to tell you where you can jam that virtual finger...

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
23. K&R..
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 12:06 PM
Aug 2017

I am glad more players are taking the baton from kap.. the first white player took a knee yesterday, progress..

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
30. When I enlisted in the Army
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 01:16 PM
Aug 2017

I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution. One of the things I defended was his right to protest by not standing for the national anthem.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
31. That's because your loyalty is to what is right & good
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 01:23 PM
Aug 2017

And soldiers are the last ones to ever yield to mob bullying

MichMan

(11,912 posts)
36. Ali sacrificed a lot more
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 05:01 PM
Aug 2017

The reason I don't think he can be compared to what Ali did is because of what each one faced. Ali lost 4 years out of the prime of his career as he faced criminal charges for draft evasion.

Kaepernick didn't stand for the anthem. Not even close.

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