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BeyondGeography

(39,370 posts)
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 10:22 AM Aug 2017

Harvey to be costliest natural disaster in U.S. history, with an estimated cost of $160 billion

Source: USA Today

Hurricane Harvey could be the costliest natural disaster in U.S. history with a potential price tag of $160 billion, according to a preliminary estimate from private weather firm AccuWeather. This is equal to the combined cost of Hurricanes Katrina and Sandy, and represents a 0.8% economic hit to the gross national product, AccuWeather said.

“Parts of Houston, the United States' fourth largest city, will be uninhabitable for weeks and possibly months due to water damage, mold, disease-ridden water and all that will follow this 1,000-year flood,” said AccuWeather president Joel Myers. The Federal Reserve, major banks, insurance companies and other business leaders should begin to factor in the negative impact this catastrophe will have on business, corporate earnings and employment, Myers said.

..."AccuWeather cautions that the negative impact from the storms are far from over. There will be more flooding, damage, fatalities and injuries," Myers said. "We urge all citizens near the path of Hurricane Harvey to remain vigilant and be prepared to take immediate action if flood waters rise." The highest rainfall total from the storm so far is near Cedar Bayou, Texas, which registered 51.88 inches. This broke the contiguous-U.S. rainfall record for a tropical storm or hurricane, preliminary data from the National Weather Service show.

Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2017/08/30/harvey-costliest-natural-disaster-u-s-history-estimated-cost-160-billion/615708001/



Here is the AccuWeather statement: https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/accuweather-predicts-hurricane-harvey-to-be-the-most-costly-natural-disaster-in-us-history/70002597
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Harvey to be costliest natural disaster in U.S. history, with an estimated cost of $160 billion (Original Post) BeyondGeography Aug 2017 OP
Just great! Dustlawyer Aug 2017 #1
The answer is tax cuts IronLionZion Aug 2017 #2
tax cuts for the rich so it can trickle down, Houston got trickled down on "bigly" Motley13 Aug 2017 #3
And if they rebuild, look for the next storm to cost Houston more Not Ruth Aug 2017 #4
Underestimated world wide wally Aug 2017 #5
What is the cost of moving all the global cities near the ocean to higher ground? L. Coyote Aug 2017 #6
Let's start with not rebuilding the one that was destroyed Not Ruth Aug 2017 #7
.... every few years. L. Coyote Aug 2017 #9
newer builds are higher and drainage of underground parkings worked pretty well. Its old areas that Sunlei Aug 2017 #10
50 plus inches of rain in a week will happen again somewhere. Can any coastal state deal with that? Sunlei Aug 2017 #8
Yup. Igel Aug 2017 #11
what broke my heart the most was most people evaced out did NOT have a decent raincoat. Sunlei Aug 2017 #13
Tax cuts and stimulation is why inflation will be back big time bucolic_frolic Aug 2017 #12
Assuming that FEMA trailers are still a thing that the US does Not Ruth Aug 2017 #14
This is how climate change will destroy civilization NickB79 Aug 2017 #15
In my 40 years of being in distressed business management laserhaas Aug 2017 #16
RE: Zoning moondust Aug 2017 #17
We got more rainfall in a few days than normally falls in a year TexasBushwhacker Aug 2017 #18
Some will say moondust Aug 2017 #19
The city is overdeveloped BeyondGeography Aug 2017 #20
Not to worry, we can build a wall like the great wall of China raccoon Aug 2017 #21
FAKE NEWS: Reagan was the costliest natural disaster in U.S. history Julian Englis Aug 2017 #22
What a perfect time for cutting taxes! Vinca Aug 2017 #23

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
6. What is the cost of moving all the global cities near the ocean to higher ground?
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 11:09 AM
Aug 2017

That's the number we need to know.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
9. .... every few years.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 11:28 AM
Aug 2017

Yep! Unbridled development without even thinking about the consequences has a very high cost in the long term, but hey, get rid of government for millionaire tax cuts.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
10. newer builds are higher and drainage of underground parkings worked pretty well. Its old areas that
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 11:31 AM
Aug 2017

need work on home re-builds and drainage of storm waters. All the millions of newer builds drain off on the older areas.

Streets flood first because they're intended to be drainage of rain water. Street flooding traps people in their homes or worse kills them when they try to drive out to leave.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
8. 50 plus inches of rain in a week will happen again somewhere. Can any coastal state deal with that?
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 11:25 AM
Aug 2017

Climate change is real and hopefully Midterm elections, DNC will use this fact against the anti-science Republican party. This will help Ds win elections across America.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
11. Yup.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 11:58 AM
Aug 2017

Try that much rain that quickly in Seattle or San Francisco area and then say, "Let's relocate them."

Or worse, Baltimore.

There are mitigation strategies for any hazard, and in some cases some areas are too risk-prone to rebuild. But all of Houston? It's like saying "relocate NOLA"--something that mostly (R) said a decade back. And when Sandy slammed parts of NYC, few said, "Let's relocate those parts of the city." No, the response to both was to pour in money to help victims and additional money to not just rebuild infrastructure but to upgrade even undamaged infrastructure.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
13. what broke my heart the most was most people evaced out did NOT have a decent raincoat.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 12:03 PM
Aug 2017

all those soaked to bone people and kids, and very few with a raincoat, rain boots and umbrella. That's something I have decided I will help change in my tiny community of neighbors.

bucolic_frolic

(43,143 posts)
12. Tax cuts and stimulation is why inflation will be back big time
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 11:59 AM
Aug 2017

1,000 year flood? Let's rebuild it so climate change can do it again next year!

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
14. Assuming that FEMA trailers are still a thing that the US does
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 01:01 PM
Aug 2017

They should be nowhere within 300 miles of Houston.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
15. This is how climate change will destroy civilization
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 04:47 PM
Aug 2017

Through repeated, devastating blows like this that bankrupt nations and collapse governments.

Welcome to the future. A lot more like Somalia or Sudan than George Jetson.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
16. In my 40 years of being in distressed business management
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 06:29 PM
Aug 2017

I've never seen this large a catastrophe, here in the U.S.

moondust

(19,976 posts)
17. RE: Zoning
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 06:52 PM
Aug 2017
August 19, 2016
~
Voters have elected to reject any efforts to pass zoning laws in Houston three different times in the past century. Today, Houston is the largest city in the country with no regulation.
~
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Weirdest-images-from-Houston-s-lack-of-zoning-laws-9171688.php

TexasBushwhacker

(20,183 posts)
18. We got more rainfall in a few days than normally falls in a year
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:26 PM
Aug 2017

If we had better zoning, we would just have a flooded city with zoning. As rainy as it normally is, Houston's average annual rainfall is less than 50".

moondust

(19,976 posts)
19. Some will say
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 07:47 PM
Aug 2017

that city planners need to prepare to some extent for the worst-case scenarios, and question whether that kind of critical decision-making should be left up to voters. In some places well-funded opponents will cry "big gubment!!!", "communism!!!" and "taxes!!!" if you turn that kind of decision-making over to government and science-based professionals where it probably belongs.

As you well know, there have been a number of floods and hurricanes in the past along the gulf coast that should have raised alarm bells years ago.

BeyondGeography

(39,370 posts)
20. The city is overdeveloped
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 09:19 PM
Aug 2017

Parts of it never should have been built. Easy to say now, hard to do something about it.

raccoon

(31,110 posts)
21. Not to worry, we can build a wall like the great wall of China
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 07:33 AM
Aug 2017

And still have plenty of money to rebuild Houston.

Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
22. FAKE NEWS: Reagan was the costliest natural disaster in U.S. history
Thu Aug 31, 2017, 07:42 AM
Aug 2017

Followed by Dubya. Trump, however, is doing his best to surpass both.

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