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HAB911

(8,890 posts)
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 08:26 AM Oct 2017

Mueller Tasks an Adviser With Getting Ahead of Pre-Emptive Pardons

Source: Bloomberg

U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller has a distinctly modern problem. The president, judging by his tweets, could try to pardon people in his circle even before prosecutors charge anyone with a crime.

Mueller’s all-star team of prosecutors, with expertise in money laundering and foreign bribery, has an answer to that. He’s Michael Dreeben, a bookish career government lawyer with more than 100 Supreme Court appearances under his belt.

Acting as Mueller’s top legal counsel, Dreeben has been researching past pardons and determining what, if any, limits exist, according to a person familiar with the matter. Dreeben’s broader brief is to make sure the special counsel’s prosecutorial moves are legally airtight. That could include anything from strategizing on novel interpretations of criminal law to making sure the recent search warrant on ex-campaign adviser Paul Manafort’s home would stand up to an appeal.

"He’s seen every criminal case of any consequence in the last 20 years," said Kathryn Ruemmler of Latham & Watkins LLP, who served as White House counsel under President Barack Obama. "If you wanted to do a no-knock warrant, he’d be a great guy to consult with to determine if you were exposing yourself.”

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-03/mueller-tasks-adviser-with-getting-ahead-of-pre-emptive-pardons

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Mueller Tasks an Adviser With Getting Ahead of Pre-Emptive Pardons (Original Post) HAB911 Oct 2017 OP
I love knowing that super smart people are strategizing Shanti Mama Oct 2017 #1
Staying one or two steps ahead of Trump..... ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2017 #2
Of all the news on the Russian front, this is the most promising and relieving Mr. Ected Oct 2017 #3
Impeach him when he is in Scarsdale Oct 2017 #10
If I were Mueller, I'd do two other things... Girard442 Oct 2017 #4
this really helps to bluestarone Oct 2017 #5
But what happens when it gets appealed to Supreme Court njhoneybadger Oct 2017 #6
Excellent point ... exactly what Im thinking too Auggie Oct 2017 #8
Oh, I'm sure Gorusch will recuse himself.... byronius Oct 2017 #9
Trump only hires the best people .... he can get. L. Coyote Oct 2017 #7
I dislike Republicans. Except for this guy. n/t raven mad Oct 2017 #11
If I was in Trump's circlr, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night. Kaleva Oct 2017 #12
Make it clear: Get A Pardon, get a Subpoena ThoughtCriminal Oct 2017 #13

Shanti Mama

(1,288 posts)
1. I love knowing that super smart people are strategizing
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 09:09 AM
Oct 2017

While dumb and dumber, or conniving, manipulative... take your pick... have seemingly zero capability to form a strategy.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
2. Staying one or two steps ahead of Trump.....
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 09:56 AM
Oct 2017


Is vital for the success of bringing him down to his collusion with Russia to undermine the election process and take the White House. Donald Trump did obstruct justice with the firing of former FBI Director Jim Comey regarding the Russia Investigation.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
3. Of all the news on the Russian front, this is the most promising and relieving
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 09:59 AM
Oct 2017

Mention criminal charges and the first thing the naysayers posit is: he's going to pardon everyone anyway, so who cares?

I had a strong feeling this was a fundamental part of the prosecutorial strategy. Viva Mueller!

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
10. Impeach him when he is in
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 11:17 AM
Oct 2017

Puerto Rico. Bring AF1 back without him and his "wife" I wonder if his family members are with them, too? Let him arrange his own transportation back.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
4. If I were Mueller, I'd do two other things...
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 10:07 AM
Oct 2017

1. Coordinate on a regular basis with state Attorneys General who might have a case against Trump et al.

2. Keep a backup of his investigative files some place out of reach of American authorities.

I suspect he's already on it.

bluestarone

(16,917 posts)
5. this really helps to
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 10:14 AM
Oct 2017

be patient knowing that Muellers trying to think ahead for the pardons. and there will be pardons we all know this. My hats off to Mueller

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
7. Trump only hires the best people .... he can get.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 10:36 AM
Oct 2017

Which is not to say they are the best of criminals ... given they are stupid enough to work for Trump.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
12. If I was in Trump's circlr, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 09:08 PM
Oct 2017

I probably would have flipped awhile ago. And that's before I was asked any questions!

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
13. Make it clear: Get A Pardon, get a Subpoena
Wed Oct 4, 2017, 12:14 AM
Oct 2017

the pardon invalidates 5th Amendment protection again self-incrimination.

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