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Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:04 PM

Progressive Group Calls Ralph Northam Racist, Sparking Intra-Party Feud Ahead Of Big Election

Source: Huffington Post

A major national progressive group on Thursday denounced Ralph Northam, the Democratic gubernatorial candidate in Virginia, as “gutless” and “racist” for his remarks on immigration ― plunging Democrats into a bitter internecine squabble ahead of statewide elections on Tuesday.

In a Wednesday interview with Norfolk, Virginia, TV news channel WAVY, Northam said he would sign a bill banning so-called “sanctuary cities,” or municipalities that limit their cooperation with federal immigration authorities, should any Virginia locality pursue that status in the future.

Northam’s opponent, Republican Ed Gillespie, has run a series of misleading ads attacking Northam for a vote as lieutenant governor blocking a bill that would have preemptively banned municipalities from adopting these limits ― though Gillespie himself has acknowledged that no sanctuary cities exist in Virginia as of yet.

Speaking to reporters Wednesday night after an event with Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), deputy chair of the Democratic National Committee, Northam claimed that he simply opposed preemptively banning sanctuary cities, and that his comments to WAVY were “what I’ve been saying all along.”

Read more: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dfa-ralph-northam-virginia-governors-race_us_59fc9562e4b0415a420b7623

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Jose Garcia Nov 2017 OP
Justice Nov 2017 #1
Jose Garcia Nov 2017 #8
Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #2
LisaM Nov 2017 #6
Jose Garcia Nov 2017 #9
brush Nov 2017 #11
lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #24
LisaM Nov 2017 #12
Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #35
Me. Nov 2017 #3
msongs Nov 2017 #4
nycbos Nov 2017 #14
enough Nov 2017 #5
Jose Garcia Nov 2017 #7
leftynyc Nov 2017 #10
Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #36
leftynyc Nov 2017 #40
George II Nov 2017 #13
ananda Nov 2017 #15
Jose Garcia Nov 2017 #16
leftynyc Nov 2017 #23
Jose Garcia Nov 2017 #25
leftynyc Nov 2017 #27
Jose Garcia Nov 2017 #49
MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #51
leftynyc Nov 2017 #57
Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #41
muntrv Nov 2017 #17
bucolic_frolic Nov 2017 #18
keithbvadu2 Nov 2017 #19
Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #42
nitpicker Nov 2017 #55
leftofcool Nov 2017 #20
HopeAgain Nov 2017 #21
Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #43
HopeAgain Nov 2017 #53
renegade000 Nov 2017 #50
HopeAgain Nov 2017 #52
Bradical79 Nov 2017 #60
Bleacher Creature Nov 2017 #22
IronLionZion Nov 2017 #26
Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #30
Wolf Frankula Nov 2017 #37
paleotn Nov 2017 #28
Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #31
Post removed Nov 2017 #29
Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2017 #32
GulfCoast66 Nov 2017 #33
Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #34
red dog 1 Nov 2017 #38
Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #44
OldHippieChick Nov 2017 #39
Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #45
RhodeIslandOne Nov 2017 #46
Wolf Frankula Nov 2017 #47
Dawson Leery Nov 2017 #48
Podkayne K Nov 2017 #54
Vinca Nov 2017 #56
DiverDave Nov 2017 #58
Gothmog Nov 2017 #59

Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:05 PM

1. Watch how much attention this story gets over next 4 days. Sickening. Link is wrong

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Response to Justice (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:12 PM

8. Sorry--fixed

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:06 PM

2. Deja Vu.

On the verge of a likely victory, Democratic candidate gets sabatoged right before election day.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:08 PM

6. Yep, exactly.

Comey 2.0.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:14 PM

9. Comey was a Republican most of his life. DFA is not suppsoed to be helping elect Republicans

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Response to Jose Garcia (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:23 PM

11. Yep, it's sickening. How dumb can you get. They just handed the election to the repug.

They should've held their fire and worked with Northam after the election on the sanctuary cities issue.

These groups are shooting us in the foot with their lack of political acumen and purity demands.

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Response to brush (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:55 PM

24. It just popped into my head that this might actually help Northam.

I'm grasping at straws....

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Response to Jose Garcia (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:24 PM

12. I just meant timing wise....

Let's hope the Virginia voters aren't duped.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 05:00 PM

35. Rinse and repeat... How many more times before we finally smarten up?

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:07 PM

3. Once Again...

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:07 PM

4. another non story that will be beat to death. is DFA running out of $$? nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:29 PM

14. I hope they go bankrupt after this.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:08 PM

5. Link goes to another story. What is the progressive group mentioned? NT

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Response to enough (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:12 PM

7. Sorry--fixed

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:22 PM

10. Does ANYONE know anything about this

 

supposed national progressive group? I never heard of them before yesterday.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 05:03 PM

36. I found this website.

http://www.democracyforamerica.com/about

It was apparently founded by Howard Dean. It seems to support only progressive candidates. It's not a Democratic Party group.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #36)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 06:37 PM

40. I read here that Dean

 

disavowed them today. How do they not see this damages their own lives? Are they anarchists?

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:25 PM

13. Democracy for America, Burlington, Vermont - I could have guessed that.....

....They're the ones who were given my email address the day after the DNC database (who had my email address) was breached back in December 2015, and started flooding my inbox with as many as five emails a day asking for money.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:32 PM

15. Strange.

Is this Russia at work, or are people in the Dem establishment
really that stupid and crazy?

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Response to ananda (Reply #15)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:36 PM

16. DFA is not the "Dem establishment"

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Response to Jose Garcia (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:54 PM

23. Then who are they?

 

I never heard of them before yesterday. Bernie supporters or russian would be my bet.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #23)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:59 PM

25. Bernie supporters

It was founded by Howard Dean but has apparently morphed into a fringe group,

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Response to Jose Garcia (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 03:14 PM

27. Thanks

 

That's weird, I've been a Dean fan for a long time.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #27)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:41 PM

49. Dean is no longer connected to the organization

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #27)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:45 PM

51. Dean condemned this action today on twitter.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #51)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 06:16 AM

57. I saw that here

 

And am not surprised at all. So who IS associated with them?

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Response to Jose Garcia (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 06:48 PM

41. And Warren supporters. Her image is on their site front and center. nt

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:38 PM

17. Please say it is a Russian troll and not actual progressives.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:39 PM

18. Have we been set up? There's been a lot of infighting the last week or so

Ideas do get floated, planted, take root, and surface from powers wanting us to fail

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:39 PM

19. Ed Gillespie thanks you.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #19)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 06:49 PM

42. Exactly. The last thing the Dem needs in a tight race is controversy. nt

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #42)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 05:30 AM

55. +1

The reliable source polls released over the last two days have this race as tied.

Thank you so much, disunifiers.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:42 PM

20. I just want to throw up.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:45 PM

21. I'm sorry, but are we on our way to be Republicans?

Yes, I understand that he is running against a Right Wing POS. And hell yes I would prefer he wins, and I'd even rather see this organization (which is not part of the Democratic Party in any way) continue to support him over Gillespie (who is frightening).

But to see a Democrat state "he would sign a bill banning so-called “sanctuary cities,” or municipalities that limit their cooperation with federal immigration authorities," makes me feel hopeless for liberalism in this country. First Second Amendment, second reproductive rights, third immigration hysteria. What's next? Civil Rights?

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Response to HopeAgain (Reply #21)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 06:51 PM

43. Well, you can sit in a corner & think that, while Republicans win elections

and control the states.

There's a pragmatism in politics.

Also...there are no sanctuary cities in VA, and not likely to be. Plus, don't take campaign talk that seriously.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #43)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:09 PM

53. I didn't say we shouldn't be pragmatic

But I wonder how progressivism will fare in the near future.

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Response to HopeAgain (Reply #21)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:42 PM

50. I'm in Virginia, the VA GOP is literally running on confederate nostalgia, there are NAZI rallies...

But evidently equivocating on sanctuary cities is just as bad?!?!

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Response to renegade000 (Reply #50)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:00 PM

52. If you are undocumented,

It's pretty damn close.

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Response to HopeAgain (Reply #21)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 01:42 PM

60. What gets me is how unsurprising backlash froms Democrats is

 

Even if it's campaign talk about non-existant sancuary cities, it's still support for racist Republican policy, and most people aren't party strategists. There's nothing wrong with people calling racism what it is, and it would be more worrying to me if nobody said anything against what he said.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:46 PM

22. Howard Dean cut his ties to them over this.




This is such an incredibly stupid move. Do people have any idea what will happen if Gillespie wins?? It's not just that he'll trash VA, which he will, but it would empower Trump. It also would convince Congressional Republicans that they may not be risking their seats by supporting the racist, sexist, anti-Semitic worldview of Trump world.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 03:08 PM

26. How about we win this frickin election first?

is wrong with some people? It's like they want to lose.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #26)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 04:36 PM

30. Interesting timing, wouldn't you say?

Timed not to hold Northam's feet to the fire. Timed so that Republican Ed Gillespie will win.

Would be interesting to see who's in that vague group.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #26)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 05:09 PM

37. They want to lose

Then they can look down on the voters as morons who don't know their own interest. They think they'll always be safe in their cocoons. "Oh but things have to get worse before they can get better," they say. "First brown, then red."

First brown, then red always ends up, 'First brown, then dead'.

Wolf

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 03:31 PM

28. Is DFA "under the table" funded by Kremlin oligarchs?

Just curious. Stranger things have happened.

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Response to paleotn (Reply #28)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 04:37 PM

31. I find the timing suspicious.nt

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 04:42 PM

32. 2020 is going to be excruciating

 

The progressives are going to tear Booker and Gillibrand to shreds.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 04:52 PM

33. This is not an innerparty fight

It is more ‘democratic socialists’ doing what they do. Attacking a Demographic Politician facing a close general election.

Would love to see where they get their Rubles, errr funding.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 04:58 PM

34. Fucking idiots...

Gillespie is already running ads with this

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 05:29 PM

38. DFA sent me an email yesterday: "We're transforming the electorate in VA - Can you help?"

Ironically, there is absolutely no mention of Ralph Northam, the Democratic gubernatorial candidate in the email.


(From the DFA email)

"Polling is showing a tight race in Virginia

The Republican Party's white supremacist tactics are riling up their base.
If we want to elect progressive champions like Lieutenant Governor candidate Justin Fairfax, we need to motivate our own base - voters of color, young people and progressive working families. And the best way to do that is through one-on-one conversations.

We're calling voters in Virginia every single day this week.
Can you help us transform the electorate and put progressive candidates over the top by joining Democracy for America, Indivisible and MoveOn for a DFA Dialer shift?"



(K&R, thanks for posting)


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Response to red dog 1 (Reply #38)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 06:54 PM

44. They have a different agenda than the Democratic Party. nt

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 05:51 PM

39. Are some people so blind they would prefer we turn to the

right rather than right what is a little wrong w/ out own? Purification will be our downfall. I am so sad.

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Response to OldHippieChick (Reply #39)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 06:54 PM

45. If we demand perfection, we'll lose elections across the country. nt

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:01 PM

46. "Progressive group" MY ASS!

 

What are their names, Vlad and Natasha???

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Response to RhodeIslandOne (Reply #46)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:19 PM

47. No, Boris and Natasha



Yeltsin wanted to fire both of them.

Wolf

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:21 PM

48. The far left is working with the far right to destroy the free world.

If Enron Eddie, he will keep the gerrymandered maps in place.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 08:10 PM

54. With Friends Like These...

... who needs Nazis?

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 05:35 AM

56. Well, I hope they enjoy their Confederate statues Gov. Gillespie promises to keep.

If Democrats demand purity they'd better run pure candidates.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 09:58 AM

58. Shake those shiny keys, vlad

The children will surely be distracted.
Why people vote against their own intrests is a mystery to me.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Sat Nov 4, 2017, 01:27 PM

59. How is helping to elect a republican being progressive?

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