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Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 09:39 AM Nov 2017

We are not a soft target: Florida church sign is letting everyone know its not a gun-free zone

Source: Raw Story


19 NOV 2017 AT 08:09 ET

TAMPA, Fla.– Members of a Florida church congregation will not turn the other cheek to those who might wish them harm.

They are armed and ready to retaliate.

. . .

The sign continues with a deadly warning: “We are heavily armed — any attempt will be dealt with deadly force. Yes we are a church and we will protect our people.”

It is signed by “The Pastors.”

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/we-are-not-a-soft-target-florida-church-sign-is-letting-everyone-know-its-not-a-gun-free-zone/









(No more "Mr. Nahce Preacher?" )
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We are not a soft target: Florida church sign is letting everyone know its not a gun-free zone (Original Post) Judi Lynn Nov 2017 OP
Sounds like they're issuing a challenge. marble falls Nov 2017 #1
Exactly Farmer-Rick Nov 2017 #8
National registration and elimination of certain types of weapons. Maybe mandatory tours ... marble falls Nov 2017 #14
Comparing firearms to a drivers license has it's own challenges. Driver's licenses are required to 24601 Nov 2017 #30
retaliate or defend? ileus Nov 2017 #2
Very helpful. That would tell me to stay a long way away from that church. tanyev Nov 2017 #3
They don't need guns to do that. paleotn Nov 2017 #5
Is that photo on his desk of him with IQ45? Freedomofspeech Nov 2017 #4
Yuck! It surely resembles the thing, doesn't it? n/t Judi Lynn Nov 2017 #6
In his signature Presidential outfit.... Freedomofspeech Nov 2017 #24
Why Is Facing Away ? ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #31
He wanted people to see it in this photo or when they come to his office... Freedomofspeech Nov 2017 #32
They all have that weird look in their eye RandiFan1290 Nov 2017 #7
Another gimmick to suck in new members AND their CASH........ Bengus81 Nov 2017 #9
But which one is the 'good christian' with a gun? FailureToCommunicate Nov 2017 #10
Unless they have armed guards at all the doors SnowCritter Nov 2017 #11
GOP-NRA: "Ooooh, if only Jesus had had a Colt AR-15,,,,,,," Cryptoad Nov 2017 #12
So somebody could walk in and set off a firecracker... malthaussen Nov 2017 #13
Just struck me: those guys look like the guys who shoot up schools and churches. marble falls Nov 2017 #15
I went to a school this summer and was surprised by the sign Yupster Nov 2017 #16
now if that were a mosque.... dembotoz Nov 2017 #17
Great place for a mentally ill gun owner to try his wits and wears. vkkv Nov 2017 #18
Reason 1,324,543 why the rest of the world thinks America is one big sinkingfeeling Nov 2017 #19
Another manifestation of the J_William_Ryan Nov 2017 #20
They should really add They_Live Nov 2017 #21
Who would Jesus shoot? eom Maeve Nov 2017 #22
A Trumpanzee who converted "over 17,755,700 people" dalton99a Nov 2017 #23
Yep world wide wally Nov 2017 #25
that could cut down their visitors--figuratively and literally yurbud Nov 2017 #26
Onward Christian soldiers... edbermac Nov 2017 #27
Probably works... Baconator Nov 2017 #28
Gun owner shoots himself and wife in church, while advocating rights to bring guns to church keithbvadu2 Nov 2017 #29

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
14. National registration and elimination of certain types of weapons. Maybe mandatory tours ...
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:55 AM
Nov 2017

of a morgue and at least the same kind of process for owning weapons as there is for having a driver's license at least .....

I used to be a I should be allowed to own any kind of weapon I want sort of person but I've finally seen the light. This has nothing to do the 2nd amendment, this is a public health and safety issue. I now stop just short of an outright gun ban. Just barely short.

24601

(3,959 posts)
30. Comparing firearms to a drivers license has it's own challenges. Driver's licenses are required to
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 05:07 AM
Nov 2017

operate a vehicle on public streets, but aren't necessary on private property. Some states have no minimum age for owning a vehicle. Demonstrating a need for a license isn't a prerequisite and there is no waiting period or FBI background check. They are usually are available at age 16 and learners' permits allow even younger drivers to drive in public under supervision. Unrestricted licenses are valid across state lines. Felons and misdemeanor domestic abusers are eligible for licenses. Treating firearms like vehicles would generally apply fewer restrictions.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
2. retaliate or defend?
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 09:49 AM
Nov 2017

Wonder if the person who wrote this knows the difference?

Defending life isn't retaliation...we should all refuse to be willing victims, and being ready isn't a bad thing.

ProfessorGAC

(64,968 posts)
31. Why Is Facing Away ?
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 06:14 AM
Nov 2017

Isn't the point of having a picture in one's desk being to look at it? How does that occur when it's facing the other way?

Freedomofspeech

(4,223 posts)
32. He wanted people to see it in this photo or when they come to his office...
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 09:12 AM
Nov 2017

Because he's so damn proud of it.

RandiFan1290

(6,229 posts)
7. They all have that weird look in their eye
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:16 AM
Nov 2017

It reminds me to check on the kids and make sure my wallet is in my pocket.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
9. Another gimmick to suck in new members AND their CASH........
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:23 AM
Nov 2017

Bet those Pray TV shysters wish they could use this one too.

SnowCritter

(810 posts)
11. Unless they have armed guards at all the doors
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:27 AM
Nov 2017

their precious sign will do absolutely nothing.

An assailant armed with his or her semi-automatic weapon of choice (AR-15s seem to be the most popular) would be able to empty an entire magazine into the congregation before the armed church-goers would be able to figure out what was going on.

I wonder if there are any lunatics out there that would consider the wording on the sign as a challenge.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
12. GOP-NRA: "Ooooh, if only Jesus had had a Colt AR-15,,,,,,,"
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:52 AM
Nov 2017

Christians are letting Right wing politics destroy their religion!

malthaussen

(17,183 posts)
13. So somebody could walk in and set off a firecracker...
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:53 AM
Nov 2017

... and watch while the idiots shoot each other.

-- Mal

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
18. Great place for a mentally ill gun owner to try his wits and wears.
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 12:49 PM
Nov 2017

An open invitation to suicide by God-fearing citizens.

Fox News said it best; " A church is the BEST place to be in a mass shooting."

tick... tick...

J_William_Ryan

(1,749 posts)
20. Another manifestation of the
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 01:55 PM
Nov 2017

‘good guy with a gun’ myth.

As already correctly noted: a determined attacker would be able to kill several victims before a ‘good guy’ could act.

And most people who carry a gun have no idea how to use a gun in an emergency.

Citizens have the right to carry concealed firearms pursuant to lawful self-defense, not act in the capacity of ‘law enforcement,’ or to otherwise ‘deter crime.’

dalton99a

(81,426 posts)
23. A Trumpanzee who converted "over 17,755,700 people"
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 02:36 PM
Nov 2017
https://www.revival.com/about

On July 10, 2017, the last day of the meetings at the DAR, Drs. Rodney and Adonica were given the opportunity to spend the day at the White House. With a group of twenty-five others, they were invited into the Oval Office to visit President Trump. It was a surreal and humbling moment. They saw Protestant, Evangelical, and Pentecostal leaders coming together with the common purpose to pray for the President of the United States of America. President Trump was open to and sincerely welcomed their prayers.

While standing in the Oval Office, Dr. Rodney was asked to pray for President Trump. He prayed for his protection, for godly wisdom to be his portion, and that the wicked would be cut off and rooted out. It wasn’t a long prayer; it was a fervent and heartfelt one. Once Dr. Rodney left the Oval Office, he successfully launched a 24/7 prayer initiative for President Trump.

With a passion for souls and a passion to revive and mobilize the Body of Christ, Drs. Rodney and Adonica have conducted soul-winning efforts throughout fifty-seven nations with Good News campaigns, R.M.I. Revivals, and the Great Awakening Tours. As a result, over 17,755,700 precious people have come to Christ and tens of thousands of believers have been revived and mobilized to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
28. Probably works...
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 02:17 AM
Nov 2017

Short of someone with a very specific ax to grind (and with a lot of motivation), a mass shooter would likely pick a different target.

keithbvadu2

(36,729 posts)
29. Gun owner shoots himself and wife in church, while advocating rights to bring guns to church
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 02:54 AM
Nov 2017

Gun owner shoots himself and wife in church, while advocating rights to bring guns to church

https://www.democraticunderground.com/126212706

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