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Panho

(39 posts)
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 10:11 AM Nov 2017

Army veteran says Franken groped her during USO tour in 2003

Source: CNN

An Army veteran says Sen. Al Franken groped her in December 2003, telling CNN that while she was deployed in Kuwait, the Minnesota Democrat cupped her breast during a photo op.

Stephanie Kemplin, 41, of Maineville, Ohio, is the fifth woman in two weeks to accuse Franken of inappropriate touching, and the second person to allege that such behavior took place while Franken was on a USO tour. Three of the five women have been identified by name.

Kemplin said while she was stationed in the Middle East during the Iraq War, she met Franken -- at the time, a comedian and writer -- as he was visiting American troops with the USO. A longtime fan of "Saturday Night Live," Kemplin got in line to take a photo with Franken.

"When he put his arm around me, he groped my right breast. He kept his hand all the way over on my breast," Kemplin said in an interview.

"I've never had a man put their arm around me and then cup my breast. So he was holding my breast on the side."

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/30/politics/al-franken-groping-allegation/index.html

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Army veteran says Franken groped her during USO tour in 2003 (Original Post) Panho Nov 2017 OP
Ok...let's see the photo then...... Bengus81 Nov 2017 #1
Yes, he 'never' moved his hand...it's still stuck to my breast. angstlessk Nov 2017 #7
I tend to agree. It would be crazy of him to put his hands on her breats while other soldiers lancelyons Nov 2017 #18
That's the photo? hurple Nov 2017 #16
well rtracey Nov 2017 #40
She provided that photo as "proof" of her allegation? herding cats Nov 2017 #17
Take a good look at the picture.... ollie10 Nov 2017 #23
Franken gives new meaning to the phrase "the long arm of the law". CincyDem Nov 2017 #27
Damn that Franken going for her "back boobs" Botany Nov 2017 #28
"turned her body to shift Franken's hand off her breast before the picture..." DesertRat Nov 2017 #31
While the photographer 'waited' for Franken to finish angstlessk Nov 2017 #33
5 seconds. Wouldnt the photographer have seen this. What about the military escort? lancelyons Nov 2017 #38
good point - who took the picture? what did they see? rsong71 Nov 2017 #45
She did vote for Trump alp227 Nov 2017 #55
Looks more like she might be pressing her breasts into him Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2017 #58
Her breasts are on her back? onecaliberal Nov 2017 #2
Its cool he will apologize so we can move on Morris64 Nov 2017 #3
?????? moda253 Nov 2017 #15
He responded quickly to the other allegations. He would do well to do the same here. Morris64 Dec 2017 #60
Wouldn't make any difference...This is a hit job ollie10 Nov 2017 #24
OK I was wrong Morris64 Dec 2017 #61
Welcome to DU! IronLionZion Nov 2017 #4
A Military Police Officer.. JawJaw Nov 2017 #5
"cupped her breast" Laf.La.Dem. Nov 2017 #6
Look at who is reporting riverwalker Nov 2017 #8
Theres a new one by a different author Nevernose Nov 2017 #53
I call bullshit blueinredohio Nov 2017 #9
yea here we go again bluestarone Nov 2017 #10
Why would they? As a group, we Dems KPN Nov 2017 #11
Right wingers are gloating weve been hoisted by our own petard RhodeIslandOne Nov 2017 #20
agree that's exactly what they want so bluestarone Nov 2017 #50
Why in the fuck is the media falling for this fucking crap?!!! KPN Nov 2017 #12
Bullshit. (R-Repulsives) are soliciting these stories to get him to resign. Laurian Nov 2017 #13
I heard this on Sirius satellite news as the opening headline news kimbutgar Nov 2017 #14
Dont forget his post on the Senate Judiciary Committee RhodeIslandOne Nov 2017 #21
Which channel? They probably use Westwood One News alp227 Nov 2017 #54
Progressive 127 kimbutgar Nov 2017 #57
Right wing smear campaign Dopers_Greed Nov 2017 #19
Franken is receiving Liberalagogo Nov 2017 #22
That is my thinking as well. warmfeet Nov 2017 #30
ok - that makes sense rsong71 Nov 2017 #46
The "army veteran" angle is being used to give her legitimacy flamingdem Nov 2017 #25
Anyone else notice MFM008 Nov 2017 #26
Hey Franken,give her until NOON to retract her story as a LIE or SUE for slander...... Bengus81 Nov 2017 #29
Do people ever bother reading through the threads to see if something has already been posted? GoCubsGo Nov 2017 #32
They should start providing steps Bayard Nov 2017 #34
"Attack the accuser" time again oberliner Nov 2017 #35
Yep. VermontKevin Nov 2017 #36
.... Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #39
No wonder accusers sometimes wish to remain anonymous oberliner Nov 2017 #44
And no wonder why Roy Moore has so many supporters Lokilooney Nov 2017 #49
Little doubt, that's the narrative you desire to advance. LanternWaste Nov 2017 #42
Thank you for this post oberliner Nov 2017 #43
well looks like you got bluestarone Nov 2017 #52
Wanting PROOF of her accusation against Franken in "disgusting" in your opinion? Bengus81 Dec 2017 #59
They must really fear Franken after the serious toasting he gave Jeffie Sessions .... marble falls Nov 2017 #37
exactly - false equivalency rsong71 Nov 2017 #48
Roger Stone with others have this all set up LiberalLovinLug Nov 2017 #41
I think you are absolutely right, unfortunately. rsong71 Nov 2017 #47
J'Accuse"" by Emile Zola no_hypocrisy Nov 2017 #51
Well, I'm calling her a liar. trueblue2007 Nov 2017 #56

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
1. Ok...let's see the photo then......
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 10:12 AM
Nov 2017

"I remember clenching up and how you just feel yourself flushed," she said. "And I remember thinking -- is he going to move his hand? Was it an accident? Was he going to move his hand? He never moved his hand."



That's her breast??

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
7. Yes, he 'never' moved his hand...it's still stuck to my breast.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 10:20 AM
Nov 2017

She is a repugnican who voted for trump...we at DU wonder why would Franken only grope repugnican women?

Seems those who work with him have nothing but praise for him? AND those photos taken outside of a comedy skit all look so innocent...and likely have other people around them that have not said a thing.

Which I am sure why Franken wants the hearing...of course others will not enjoy being questioned under oath!

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
18. I tend to agree. It would be crazy of him to put his hands on her breats while other soldiers
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:29 AM
Nov 2017

I tend to agree. It would be crazy of him to put his hands on her breasts while other soldiers are in the same area.

It seems like this is just another republican lady that had a picture with Franken and decided to make it look worse.

There is no way he had his hands on her breasts with other soldiers 5-10 feet away. The USO photographer would know.

The military escort had to be in that same room.

Smells like a setup.

hurple

(1,306 posts)
16. That's the photo?
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:12 AM
Nov 2017

Seriously? That's THE photo in question, that the lady is complaining about?

Geez? If that's cupping a woman's breast in a photo, then I'm guilty of harassment as well. Guess I better quit my job.

This is the most blatant attempt at "crying wolf" on Franken, yet.

 

ollie10

(2,091 posts)
23. Take a good look at the picture....
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:46 AM
Nov 2017

..... She says he grabbed her right breast. He has his arm around her....it would take quite a stretch and physical contortion to reach all the way around to her right breast..... He either has very long arms....or.....

And isn't she leaning into Franken, instead of the other way around? And where is the look of shock on her face?

Do you have to be a Republican for Franken to touch you?

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
31. "turned her body to shift Franken's hand off her breast before the picture..."
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:00 PM
Nov 2017

From the CNN story:

Kemplin estimated that the touching lasted anywhere from five to 10 seconds. She said she eventually turned her body to shift Franken's hand off her breast before the picture was taken.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
33. While the photographer 'waited' for Franken to finish
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:05 PM
Nov 2017

'fondling' her before he snapped that photo? Wonder how many people were in line waiting for a photo with Franken?

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
38. 5 seconds. Wouldnt the photographer have seen this. What about the military escort?
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 02:08 PM
Nov 2017

Something does not seem right here.

Why arent the new organizations questioning this? Are they asking the Lady if she voted for Trump? Or if she had talked to anybody at Fox news lately?

Something seems very wrong.

Nobody in their right mind would have their hands on a womens breast while a USO photographer and other soldiers are right there.

rsong71

(38 posts)
45. good point - who took the picture? what did they see?
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 03:27 PM
Nov 2017

did they politely wait until he was done before they took the picture? (sarcasm) I don't believe it.

alp227

(32,019 posts)
55. She did vote for Trump
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 06:57 PM
Nov 2017
Kemplin, who now works as a federal contractor investigating Medicare fraud, is a registered Republican and said she voted for President Donald Trump in the 2016 election.
 

Morris64

(78 posts)
60. He responded quickly to the other allegations. He would do well to do the same here.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 01:08 AM
Dec 2017

Let the list of creepers unfold and take the heat off Franken

 

ollie10

(2,091 posts)
24. Wouldn't make any difference...This is a hit job
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:47 AM
Nov 2017

If he apologizes, that is an admission of guilt. If he doesn't apologize, that is an admission of guilt. Either way they want to hang him

JawJaw

(722 posts)
5. A Military Police Officer..
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 10:20 AM
Nov 2017

..but she said nothing then snuggled up closer to smile for the photographer?

Not buying it.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
8. Look at who is reporting
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 10:30 AM
Nov 2017

It’s MJ Lee who ran with the Lindsay Menz State Fair story without verifying anything. Why are these two stories coming from ONE source?

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
53. Theres a new one by a different author
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 06:34 PM
Nov 2017

That author, at Jezebel, published an article called something like “Only an idiot thinks the UVA accusations are a hoax”

It looks to me like Roger Stone’s people looked for the most gullible “reporters” they could find, people they knew would publish anything without criticism or critical thought.

https://jezebel.com/is-the-uva-rape-story-a-gigantic-hoax-asks-idiot-1665233387

Ever since journalist Sabrina Rubin Erdely published her searing Rolling Stone story about “Jackie,” a woman who was allegedly the victim of a gang rape at a frat party at the University of Virginia, there’s been an ongoing and much-needed public conversation about the way rape and sexual assault claims are dealt with on college campuses. But Robby Soave at the libertarian magazine Reason thinks we’re talking about the wrong questions entirely. Shouldn’t we be asking, he wonders, if Jackie just, like, made the whole story up?

Soave writes that Erdely’s story is “not credible,” according to “journalists who contemplate such matters.” Which journalists, exactly? One, to be precise, a guy by the name of Richard Bradley, who writes on his blog that he doesn’t believe the story: “I don’t believe that it happened—certainly not in the way that it is recounted.”

Bradley writes that “something about this story doesn’t feel right.” He’s skeptical because we never learn Jackie’s real name (although he doesn’t acknowledge that no credible media outlet would ever use an alleged rape victim’s real name without her permission). He’s skeptical because Erdely doesn’t quote the friends of Jackie’s who evidently discouraged her from seeking medical attention or calling the police after the rape

KPN

(15,643 posts)
11. Why would they? As a group, we Dems
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:01 AM
Nov 2017

fall for their shit all the time ... because we DO HAVE MORALS and a conscience, and we genuinely care about the welfare of others.

Guess we need to rethink some of that. I know I'm getting angry to the point I'm starting to think "turn it all off", "ignore the news" -- which is exactly what they want.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
20. Right wingers are gloating weve been hoisted by our own petard
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:35 AM
Nov 2017

They will throw any accusation at the wall now because we are trapped in a world where due process is replaced in favor of media trial.

KPN

(15,643 posts)
12. Why in the fuck is the media falling for this fucking crap?!!!
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:03 AM
Nov 2017

Research the source and his/her/their story before reporting the fucking story!!

Jesus! Are we totally lost?

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
13. Bullshit. (R-Repulsives) are soliciting these stories to get him to resign.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:05 AM
Nov 2017

They are below contemptible and will do anything to increase their hold in the Senate.

Resist!

kimbutgar

(21,137 posts)
14. I heard this on Sirius satellite news as the opening headline news
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:09 AM
Nov 2017

This is another bs allegation to get Roy Moore elected in Alabama. When he wins there’ll be no more Franken groping stories.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
21. Dont forget his post on the Senate Judiciary Committee
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:38 AM
Nov 2017

They do not want him grilling the KKKeebler Elf anymore.

alp227

(32,019 posts)
54. Which channel? They probably use Westwood One News
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 06:44 PM
Nov 2017

which has a "woosh" sound followed by a top story headline, and the anchor introduction without naming a news service. Westwood One News has a licensing agreement with CNN, as it replaced the old CNN Radio News.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
19. Right wing smear campaign
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:33 AM
Nov 2017

Notice the steady interval that these "allegations" are coming out.

They're trying to get Franken to resign and get Moore elected with these, essentially trying to steal 2 Senate seats.

 

Liberalagogo

(1,770 posts)
22. Franken is receiving
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:40 AM
Nov 2017

the Hillary treatment, so he won't be able to run effectively as a future Presidential candidate. And sadly, it seems to be working.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
25. The "army veteran" angle is being used to give her legitimacy
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:49 AM
Nov 2017

Let's find out who put her up to this and how much she's being paid

MFM008

(19,806 posts)
26. Anyone else notice
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:54 AM
Nov 2017

These accusations are timed for to keep this story going?
Still a Bannon hit job.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
29. Hey Franken,give her until NOON to retract her story as a LIE or SUE for slander......
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 11:56 AM
Nov 2017

This milque-toast BS has to STOP. They go low,we crawl underneath them and FIRE back.


FUCK THIS!!

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
32. Do people ever bother reading through the threads to see if something has already been posted?
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:04 PM
Nov 2017

Apparently not, as this is the third or fourth post on this subject already.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
44. No wonder accusers sometimes wish to remain anonymous
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 02:28 PM
Nov 2017

When they give their name and show their face, they get accused of being liars or worse.

Lokilooney

(322 posts)
49. And no wonder why Roy Moore has so many supporters
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 03:53 PM
Nov 2017

I was going to make a comment like, they probably think George Soros is behind it, Sarcastically. Then I did a search and yup, they do think he is behind it. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/roy-moore-george-soros-sexual-misconduct_us_5a1df35de4b0d724fed4748d

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
42. Little doubt, that's the narrative you desire to advance.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 02:23 PM
Nov 2017

Little doubt, that's the narrative you desire to advance.

The irony is but a tasteless side-dish.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
43. Thank you for this post
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 02:25 PM
Nov 2017

I am definitely hoping to advance that narrative.

The irony is indeed disgusting.

Glad to have some others who can see it along with me.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
59. Wanting PROOF of her accusation against Franken in "disgusting" in your opinion?
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 09:23 AM
Dec 2017

She made the statement that Franken put his hand on her TIT and never removed it evidently while the photo was being taken. AGAIN...where is THAT photo to back up the claim?

This isn't as much about Franken as it is the truth.

marble falls

(57,079 posts)
37. They must really fear Franken after the serious toasting he gave Jeffie Sessions ....
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 02:06 PM
Nov 2017

if this is the best they can do, its just another BULLSHIT RW claim. She may remember it differently but there's certainly nothing to it so far.

Funny the accusations against Moore are documentable and seriously more depraved than anything alleged against Al Franken. There just is not an iota of parity.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
41. Roger Stone with others have this all set up
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 02:19 PM
Nov 2017

They probably have a queue of Trump groupies already in place. Then when one exaggerated Franken story is just about to be lost in the news cycle, the next in the line up gets a tap on the shoulder. Until repetition and 'propelling the propaganda' starts working. Where there's smoke there's fire. Same game plan as Hillary, only hers has gone on for decades until she was irredeemable for 50% of Americans.

Gawd I hope Al keeps fighting through this. He would be a major loss to the Democratic party, if they managed to have him resign.

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