House OKs GOP Bill Expanding Gun Owners' Rights
Source: U.S. News & World Report
Dec. 6, 2017, at 5:37 p.m.
By MATTHEW DALY and RICHARD LARDNER, Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) Republicans rammed a bill through the House on Wednesday that would make it easier for gun owners to legally carry concealed weapons across state lines, the first significant action on guns in Congress since mass shootings in Nevada and Texas killed more than 80 people.
The House approved the bill, 231-198, largely along party lines. Six Democrats voted yes, while 14 Republicans voted no.
The measure would allow gun owners with a state-issued concealed-carry permit to carry a handgun in any state that allows concealed weapons. It now goes to the Senate.
Republicans said the reciprocity measure, a top priority of the National Rifle Association, would allow gun owners to travel freely between states without worrying about conflicting state laws or civil suits.
Read more: https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-12-06/house-weighs-republican-bill-easing-gun-restrictions
Votes: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2017/h663?utm_campaign=govtrack_feed&utm_source=govtrack/feed&utm_medium=rss
------------------------------------
Statistically Notable Votes
Vote Party Representative District
No R Buck, Ken CO 4th
No R Curbelo, Carlos FL 26th
No R Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana FL 27th
Aye D Bishop, Sanford GA 2nd
No R Roskam, Peter IL 6th
No R Massie, Thomas KY 4th
No R Amash, Justin MI 3rd
No R Smith, Chris NJ 4th
No R Lance, Leonard NJ 7th
No R King, Pete NY 2nd
No R Donovan, Daniel NY 11th
Aye D Schrader, Kurt OR 5th
No R Costello, Ryan PA 6th
No R Meehan, Patrick PA 7th
No R Fitzpatrick, Brian PA 8th
No R Gohmert, Louie TX 1st
Aye D Gonzalez, Vicente TX 15th
Aye D Kind, Ron WI 3rd
Statistically notable votes are the votes that are most surprising, or least predictable, given how other members of each voter’s party voted and other factors.
= new reply since forum marked as read
immediately surrounding Philly so their "no" makes sense.
But Louis Gohmert? 
with a device that is kinda dangerous to begin with, do they have to have a insurance coverage, to transport this hazardous object across state lines.
Does the car insurance carrier have a say in this matter-------------Since everyone when driving has to have insurance for liability purposes even across state lines, because if this fucking object gets stolen, do I, or many others that pay into car insurance and have our rates go up because these fuckers have a fucking gun in the car and it gets stolen while going across state lines.
Who is fucking liable if it is used against someone, after all it was transported across state lines in a fucking car or truck, my car insurance coverage cover these assholes from another state when they come into in my state?
Who covers the liability of the car insurance of this transportation, me, the driver in my state and my car insurance carrier----------FUCK that Shit.
I shouldn't be held responsible because of some asshole, who thinks that second amendment doesn't need to be regulated, can just go anywhere you want with a concealed weapon.
I hate guns.......................
Does the insurance carrier that you buy for your car have a waiver in it about guns, that you are carrying across state lines. If you buy a new car you have to show proof of insurance end of story, the car will not go off the lot until you prove you have it, in most states you can't operate a vehicle unless you have insurance.
If some whack job brings a gun across state lines and the mode of transportation of getting that gun across state lines is a car, and something happens, who is responsible for that transportation, the owner of the gun, the car insurance carrier which the gun sits in that car, since you have to be responsible to have car insurance for the car.
In least, most states liability insurance is requirement to operate a vehicle in the state just in case something happens, and if something happens, and you have no insurance, well, your house, your wages are now on the line to pay for that incident, if you are liable.
Let me use this example, you go into a mall, and you live in a state that has open carry or concealed BS, and on this property you go into your local auto parts store, and some jerk has a gun on them. Mind you the store has no sign saying no guns allowed or if they are allowed and they are leasing the building from some property owner.
Something happens in that store, and the "guy" or woman pulls out the gun and shoots and hits someone, something happens.
Who is liable, the mall property owner or the auto parts store leasing the building on the property of the mall property for allowing that gun into their store, what does there liability insurance say to who is responsible, where is the sign that says guns are allowed or not allowed, the car insurance carrier which the person was riding in to get to that store.
Lets say there are other stores on the property, and there is a bank, go and ask them if you can bring a gun into the bank, or other stores on the property, or does the property land owner of the mall which the bank sits are they responsible, after all they are leasing the building from the property owner of the land which it sits, after all, you now have a right to bring a gun transported by car from another state into a bank because this bank is affiliated with your bank in the state you live, or if someone just walks right on in with a gun strapped on there hip, now that it's just fine and dandy to have on concealed or not concealed, by this new act of BS.
I went into auto store, and while I was there some asshole brought in his gun in the auto parts store, he was at the register, like I was, I looked over at the cashier and asked is this person paranoid, with him standing right there, why did he bring is gun into the store, to express his second amendment right, that is not a right, that is infringing on my right.
How do I know that he isn't going to rob the place, does this item on his hip make him more manly, is it that this person has a inferiority complex, just so they can go around and carry one.
See if he can go into bank with one, see what happens.
Remember the young man in Minneapolis, he even told the officer he had a permit for the gun, and he was shot, where is the sign saying no guns allowed or if they are allowed on the store front, does the property owner of the mall responsible for not having a sign the store on which I was in, who is liable for this jerk bringing the gun into that store, who is liable.
If you want to transport or own a gun, then my contention to this matter, is that you should have liability insurance just to operate and own that gun, just like a car or truck, you want that gun that bad, then be liable for having one, and if anyone does not have insurance for that gun, then you can't have one, then just like what was said in the previous conversational paragraphs, your liable for your own the situation.
What happened in Nevada, that hotel is going to be sued, they are going to pay into there lack of responsibility, they had no sign on the front door, saying no guns allowed, its that simple, it's just car insurance either you have it or you don't, and gun owner should be held responsible, either you have or you don't-----------------regulate that gun with insurance for its operation by the owner.
I hate Guns
I have seen my principle laying on the ground dead, and two other human beings wounded, when I was in grade school over 54 years ago.
I was told that my best friend was shot dead over ten dollars, 35 years ago
Liability insurance is the regulation of that weapon and remember your car can be used as a weapon
Have a nice day
