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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 03:29 PM Dec 2017

Facing Republican attacks, FBIs deputy director plans to retire early next year

Source: Washington Post

Andrew McCabe, the FBI’s deputy director who has been the target of Republican critics for more than a year, plans to retire in a few months when he becomes fully eligible for pension benefits, according to people familiar with the matter.

McCabe spent hours in Congress this past week, facing questions behind closed doors from members of three committees. Republicans said they were dissatisfied with his answers; Democrats called it a partisan hounding.

McCabe, 49, holds a unique position in the political firestorm surrounding the FBI. He was former director James B. Comey’s right-hand man, a position that involved him in most of the FBI’s actions that vex President Trump as well as the investigation of Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server while secretary of state, a matter that still riles Democrats.

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McCabe won’t become eligible for his full pension until early March. People close to him say he plans to retire as soon as he hits that mark. “He’s got about 90 days, and some of that will be holiday time. He can make it,’’ said one.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/facing-republican-attacks-fbis-deputy-director-plans-to-retire-early-next-year/2017/12/23/b4802b8c-e67a-11e7-a65d-1ac0fd7f097e_story.html?utm_term=.d8d85444738e

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Facing Republican attacks, FBIs deputy director plans to retire early next year (Original Post) MelissaB Dec 2017 OP
In this case im pretty sure a book deal will trump any pension benefits Tiggeroshii Dec 2017 #1
His position as EX- employee of the executive branch also Hortensis Dec 2017 #29
McCabe realizes that Trump only wants complete loyalty to him. SummerSnow Dec 2017 #2
90 days Turbineguy Dec 2017 #3
The problem with good, or at least non partisan competent, people resigning LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #4
Yes. I will they would stay and courageously fight the bastards. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #17
There's a basic fact Trump does not understand . . . Sam McGee Dec 2017 #5
Agree. Except Trump has become a tool, as well as Hortensis Dec 2017 #30
Rudy's aawfully quiet bucolic_frolic Dec 2017 #6
He's hiding out. He knows he is in deep shit... keeping a low profile Alice11111 Dec 2017 #18
GOPers can never preach to me about Democracy, Iliyah Dec 2017 #7
must be nice to get a full pension at age 50 Skittles Dec 2017 #8
Pension? Maynar Dec 2017 #9
isn't is strange? Skittles Dec 2017 #10
Strange, yes Maynar Dec 2017 #11
I don't decry people getting a pension Skittles Dec 2017 #12
Agreed. Maynar Dec 2017 #13
It's why a lot of people like Trumpers hate the Gubmint. Ligyron Dec 2017 #19
And the gubmint doesnt create jobs, those lazy folks RestoreAmerica2020 Dec 2017 #28
I may be wrong but I don't think you start to collect it until you are 65. StevieM Dec 2017 #14
yes but it's still a FULL pension Skittles Dec 2017 #15
As a civil servant BumRushDaShow Dec 2017 #20
The federal pension is actually small and paid for out of pay roll deductions. Scruffy1 Dec 2017 #16
They haven't gone to high 5 yet BumRushDaShow Dec 2017 #21
FERS is different from CSRS DeminPennswoods Dec 2017 #25
I am a recently retired fed BumRushDaShow Dec 2017 #26
Am also DeminPennswoods Dec 2017 #31
That was what I got out of this story too Yupster Dec 2017 #22
This does not sound right. jeffreyi Dec 2017 #23
Repubs are going to try to get rid of him before them. Trump is mean and vicious... Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #24
You know its getting bad when... duforsure Dec 2017 #27
Sounds to me like he would have a good case of KewlKat Dec 2017 #32

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. His position as EX- employee of the executive branch also
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 09:55 AM
Dec 2017

will free him up ethically to speak far more openly.

Back when W was lying about why we were invading Iraq, a long, slow parade of people who were no longer in government and/or the military stepped forward to speak against it -- for themselves and doubt also on behalf of those currently part of the administration.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
2. McCabe realizes that Trump only wants complete loyalty to him.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 03:37 PM
Dec 2017

he knows that Trump will make his job difficult. He knows that Trump will try to get him to bend the rules and break the laws for his own personal interest. He is getting out of Dodge .

Turbineguy

(37,313 posts)
3. 90 days
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 03:42 PM
Dec 2017

is a long time in politics. And Trump is approaching the "one day at a time" point.

And some of these republican critics may already have needed to sign up under FARA.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,169 posts)
4. The problem with good, or at least non partisan competent, people resigning
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 03:42 PM
Dec 2017

is that they are replaced by ring kissing traitors.

 

Sam McGee

(347 posts)
5. There's a basic fact Trump does not understand . . .
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 03:53 PM
Dec 2017

. . . do not fuck with the people who have the secrets; who can tap your phones and dig through your bank account; and who carry badges and guns.

The FBI is biding their time. Trump's shit is in the street.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
30. Agree. Except Trump has become a tool, as well as
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 09:58 AM
Dec 2017

real and symbolic head of the largest official right-wing organization, the Republican Party, and and his users and other Republicans may protect him at least somewhat peripherally for their own benefit. His scandals are theirs. Russia has donated to a bunch of their campaigns, and they've accepted, for instance.

Skittles

(153,141 posts)
10. isn't is strange?
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 05:06 PM
Dec 2017

the people who lose or never had a pension keep paying for others to have pensions

Ligyron

(7,624 posts)
19. It's why a lot of people like Trumpers hate the Gubmint.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 06:09 PM
Dec 2017

'cause the employees have decent jobs that come with things like health insurance and pensions.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
28. And the gubmint doesnt create jobs, those lazy folks
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 07:52 AM
Dec 2017

..needs to pull themselves by them own bootstraps go dig ditches or somethen lke that...didn t they all watch grapes of wrath..them people did what could to survive sold their dusty farms and went to California and worked sideby side by them Mexicans people say they are lazy but bthey work Damn hard ..no sir .

No sir only white folk like them there Paul Ryan, Mitch Mcconnel and the rest of them, now they got thenskves some mighty pretty jobs they stay until they dropdead at 100..but thems jobs are different they say,,cuz the people elect them, funny thing about that is they keep winning their districts even though the "others " you know them blacks and Mexican moved in years ago, curious thing though I just dont think theyd vote for guys like that so to keep their jobs in gubmint they fix the boundaries ...some fancy word like gerrymandrin.

Ryan and mcconnel have it made ...thet git that gov healthcare that they want to deny everyone even the children, and they have that nice pensioin that most of us lost during time gwbush was in office and that recession happened.

Now that Ryan ain't he somethin! He dont want any one to go to that nice college and get free schooling like did then went off and got that gubment job and he don't someone else to get social security when their pappy dies like his and his mama did,,then qualify for food stamps and Medicaid it's that free medical that he and his buddies in congress are denying this poor kids all across America ,...in my world thats just being a damn hypocritical and that don't sit right by me. Of course I'm being facetious

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
14. I may be wrong but I don't think you start to collect it until you are 65.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 05:23 PM
Dec 2017

I think the issue is what level of pension, if any, he gets when the time comes for him to start collecting one.

BumRushDaShow

(128,748 posts)
20. As a civil servant
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 06:14 PM
Dec 2017

he would (based on his age) be under FERS and eligible for a FERS supplement until he is 62 then SS would kick in and he can draw from his TSP.

If he can retire at 50 then (outside of any authorization for early out), his position is considered a LEO.

Scruffy1

(3,254 posts)
16. The federal pension is actually small and paid for out of pay roll deductions.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 05:25 PM
Dec 2017

You need a total of 85 between your years of service and your age to qualify. Age 50 with 35 years would work.The pension is !% of your high five years times years of service, so he would get 35% of his highest paid five years it is mostly funded through payroll deductions. Amazing to me how many are willing to jump on the bogus right wing claims about pensions. In general federal jobs pay less than private sector jobs, but have more job security and better benefits. It's a form of deferred compensation. The FBI has little defferent deal and they are eleigible to retire at 20 years like most law enforcement.

BumRushDaShow

(128,748 posts)
21. They haven't gone to high 5 yet
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 06:36 PM
Dec 2017

and it depends on which system you are under (FERS vs CSRS) regarding number of years. Under FERS, they have what is called a "MRA" (minimum retirement age). In his case as a LEO, he is permitted voluntary retirement at 50 with at least 20 years.

DeminPennswoods

(15,273 posts)
25. FERS is different from CSRS
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 06:43 AM
Dec 2017

CSRS defined benefit pension ended in 1983 under Reagan. Federal civil servants hired started in 1984 are covered under FERS, a defined contribution plan.

Under CSRS, you can retire beginning at age 55 or any age with 30 years service. If you retire before then, usually under SIP/VERA authorized early retirement incentives, you still lose 2% for each year under age 55. For ex, if you are 50 and take early retirement, your maximum pension benefit is reduced by 10%. CSRS pension is calculated based on an employees highest 3 years average salary which is usually the last 3 years. CSRS is deducted from federal employee paychecks and isn't part of social security, it's a separate retirement system. CSRS beneficiaries are subject to a pension off-set should they also qualify for social security benefits.

FERS is based on a small similar defined benefit pension, social security and thrift savings fund.

BumRushDaShow

(128,748 posts)
26. I am a recently retired fed
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 07:11 AM
Dec 2017

@ 55 after 32 years (under CSRS-offset). My father was a fed for 20+ years before he passed away in 1974 at age 50 (we got survivors' annuity), so am very much steeped in fed government.

DeminPennswoods

(15,273 posts)
31. Am also
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 10:15 AM
Dec 2017

a retired fed under CSRS, no off-set. Hired right after college via federal civil service test, took early out with a big pension hit due to being under 55 and short of 30 years service.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
22. That was what I got out of this story too
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 07:26 PM
Dec 2017

Full pension at age 50?

We taxpayers sure are generous at times like this.

jeffreyi

(1,938 posts)
23. This does not sound right.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 08:29 PM
Dec 2017

It's not a good idea to tell people when you are going to retire, especially so far out, and especially a job like that. I doubt this came from McCabe. Somebody is trolling.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
24. Repubs are going to try to get rid of him before them. Trump is mean and vicious...
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 11:02 PM
Dec 2017

and goes out to destroy lives. He's an animal with no moral compass.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
27. You know its getting bad when...
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 07:52 AM
Dec 2017

The President can run off good people working for an agency investigating him, without consequences. I suspect there will be many more working for this illegitimate President to undermine the rule of law for him, but by doing so they show they've conspired, and obstructed, and can and will also be held accountable . It shows intent.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
32. Sounds to me like he would have a good case of
Sun Dec 24, 2017, 10:45 AM
Dec 2017

“Hostile work environment” I mean how can you do your job with all this lack of trust and outright hostility?

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