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Judi Lynn

(160,456 posts)
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 07:11 PM Jan 2018

TRUMP HANDS OVER BUSINESS DOCUMENTS TO MUELLER

Source: Newsweek


BY ZACHARY FRYER-BIGGS ON 1/4/18 AT 5:10 PM

President Donald Trump’s legal team has handed over to Special Counsel Robert Mueller business documents that include details about Trump’s effort to build a hotel in Moscow, his campaign’s communications with WikiLeaks and Trump Tower meeting when some of his senior campaign staffers sought to get dirt on Hillary Clinton from a Russian lawyer, according to a report by CNN.

Also given to congressional investigators, the documents cover the years 2015 through 2017 and include records of conversations by employees of Trump's business but no financial records, according to CNN’s sources.

Given to investigators in 2017, the documents also include internal communications about Trump’s April 2016 campaign speech on foreign policy and about an October 2016 speech Donald Trump Jr. delivered to a group in Paris that is closely tied to the Kremlin. Trump Jr. received $50,000 for the speech.

The White House directed a request for comment to Trump’s lawyer for the Russia inquiry, Ty Cobb, who declined to comment to Newsweek.

Read more: http://www.newsweek.com/trump-hands-business-documents-mueller-report-771265?piano_t=1

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TRUMP HANDS OVER BUSINESS DOCUMENTS TO MUELLER (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jan 2018 OP
Anyone else think that Mueller already has these and wants to see if Trump edits? Happyhippychick Jan 2018 #1
Or something.... zentrum Jan 2018 #5
They withheld the financial docs... .99center Jan 2018 #10
I know, right? volstork Jan 2018 #13
That's what I'm saying. zentrum Jan 2018 #20
Yup! Lucinda Jan 2018 #14
I bet you're right! calimary Jan 2018 #15
Those documents were thoroughly reviewed by the Trump legal team before being Calista241 Jan 2018 #21
Ha! uppityperson Jan 2018 #25
Once the Legal Beagels get Wellstone ruled Jan 2018 #2
Business documents but no financials?? bucolic_frolic Jan 2018 #3
Mueller probably already has the tax returns. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #11
would have to believe Mueller has tax returns by now dweller Jan 2018 #24
duu duuuunnnn duun... duuunnnnnnnn dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dunnnnnnnnnnn Me. Jan 2018 #4
I bet it ain't even a fraction of what he should have turned over BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #6
Here's the photo of what Mueller's team was given ffr Jan 2018 #7
Unlikely... regnaD kciN Jan 2018 #9
Indeed, he only uses giant sequoia paper. nt Lucky Luciano Jan 2018 #23
... it was meant as a joke. ffr Jan 2018 #26
Hoisted by his own petard SkatmanRoth Jan 2018 #8
It's Likely Trump Has More Than One Set of Books and Records -- Which Ones Did He Submit to Mueller? dlk Jan 2018 #12
So far, it strikes me that Robert Mueller is a real pro who follows that "lawyers' rule" - calimary Jan 2018 #16
Excerpt says NO books. Only records of conversations and such. NO financial records. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #18
Trump trying to stonewall on financial records, trying to claim Mueller over-reaching. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #17
By not totally divesting himself of his business interests..... mgardener Jan 2018 #19
Cheeto still doesn't know what emoluments means FakeNoose Jan 2018 #22

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
5. Or something....
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 07:35 PM
Jan 2018

It seems deceptively easy to me. Can't believe the important documents were really handed over without years of obstruction and countersuing etc.

.99center

(1,237 posts)
10. They withheld the financial docs...
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 07:51 PM
Jan 2018

How do you know that the "important" documents were handed over?

volstork

(5,399 posts)
13. I know, right?
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 07:59 PM
Jan 2018

It was probably his list for Santa and some old dry-cleaning receipts. Maybe a coupon for $1 off a Filet-O-Fish.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
20. That's what I'm saying.
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 09:47 PM
Jan 2018

The important documents were not handed over. Something unimportant, more or less, was.

calimary

(81,137 posts)
15. I bet you're right!
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 08:41 PM
Jan 2018

trump has never had to deal with somebody like Mueller. I heard some talking head this morning opine about how trump is accustomed to dealing with some low-ranking assistant district attorney in Manhattan whom he can bully, try to impress by throwing his weight around, or maybe cross a few palms with a few extra pieces of silver. He's never been up against somebody like Robert Mueller. He's in so far over his head on this that he might as well try to build a hotel/casino at the bottom of the Marianas Trench.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
21. Those documents were thoroughly reviewed by the Trump legal team before being
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 09:57 PM
Jan 2018

turned over.

I think that if Trump is ever caught for anything, it won't stem from documents his team voluntarily turned over to Mueller and Congressional committee's.

We know that no Trump properties were ever realized in Russia, except for a short lived Vodka branding license back in 2008.

bucolic_frolic

(43,064 posts)
3. Business documents but no financials??
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 07:23 PM
Jan 2018

If Mueller doesn't get the tax returns plus both sets of books, it's just not a complete picture.

Keeping two sets of books is an old accounting trick. Hard to believe that wasn't practiced in this case.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,615 posts)
11. Mueller probably already has the tax returns.
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 07:54 PM
Jan 2018

They could have been subpoenaed directly from the IRS without Trump even knowing about it. There are people who work for the FBI called forensic accountants who are able to analyze business records and find anomalies based on the continuity of the records, tax returns and other records. If the books are cooked Mueller's people will notice.

dweller

(23,617 posts)
24. would have to believe Mueller has tax returns by now
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 11:00 PM
Jan 2018

as it's gov't docs/data, and he has subpoena power ?

ffr

(22,665 posts)
7. Here's the photo of what Mueller's team was given
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 07:45 PM
Jan 2018

The exchange was made at Office Depot, a source revealed.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
26. ... it was meant as a joke.
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 06:09 PM
Jan 2018

Reams and reams of blank pages. Anything else provided would be incriminating.

dlk

(11,514 posts)
12. It's Likely Trump Has More Than One Set of Books and Records -- Which Ones Did He Submit to Mueller?
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 07:57 PM
Jan 2018

It's doubtful Trump turned over anything remotely approaching comprehensive and accurate documents. Once a crook...

calimary

(81,137 posts)
16. So far, it strikes me that Robert Mueller is a real pro who follows that "lawyers' rule" -
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 08:44 PM
Jan 2018

Never ask a question that you don't already know the answer to.

I've heard lots of speculation that Mueller may already have the tax returns. I'd bet he does. Robert Mueller is a seasoned pro whose track record entitles him to be taken VERY seriously. He's not some rube that trump's used to pulling a con upon, or some subcontractor trump plans to stiff because he simply doesn't feel like paying for work that was done. Mueller wasn't born yesterday.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,966 posts)
18. Excerpt says NO books. Only records of conversations and such. NO financial records.
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 09:00 PM
Jan 2018

Trump is trying to stonewall on that, which makes it crystal clear that is where the nub of the case is. Undoubtedly money laundering and possibly blackmail. Plus probably would expose the fact that Trump is a failure as a businessperson and that his empire is a house of cards.

mgardener

(1,812 posts)
19. By not totally divesting himself of his business interests.....
Thu Jan 4, 2018, 09:12 PM
Jan 2018

He is still reaping the profits from his business empire.
If money laundering is discovered and has continued through the time he has been POTUS, can he be charged?

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