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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 12:53 PM Jan 2018

Kushner directed Flynn to lobby foreign officials over U.N. vote: report

Source: The Hill




BY JOHN BOWDEN - 01/05/18 11:45 AM EST

President Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner directed former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn to lobby foreign officials ahead of a December 2016 U.N. vote that condemned Israeli settlements, according to several people familiar with the efforts.

Flynn's guilty plea in December stated that a “a very senior member of the Presidential Transition Team” “directed Flynn” during the transition period to “influence those governments to delay the vote or defeat the resolution." That "very senior member" was in fact Kushner, according to The Wall Street Journal's sources.

The lobbying efforts failed, and in December of 2016 the U.N. voted to condemn a new wave of Israeli settlements as a "flagrant violation" of international law with "no legal validity."

Flynn plead guilty in December to lying to FBI investigators over his contact with the foreign officials over the U.N. vote during the transition, and entered a plea agreement with prosecutors from Robert Mueller's special counsel office.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/367602-kushner-directed-flynn-to-lobby-foreign-officials-over-un-vote-report

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Kushner directed Flynn to lobby foreign officials over U.N. vote: report (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2018 OP
Drip, drip, drip Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #1
Moving this back up for exposure UpInArms Jan 2018 #2
K & FuckingR!!!! nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2018 #3
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jan 2018 #4
Kicked and recommended WheelWalker Jan 2018 #5
Since Obama's administration abstained on the vote, I'm not sure how important this is muriel_volestrangler Jan 2018 #6
The US abstaining meant the resolution passed - which is what the US wanted karynnj Jan 2018 #7
Potential Logan Act violation. BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #8
First of all, Volaris Jan 2018 #9
Wow. NastyRiffraff Jan 2018 #10
K&R for exposure of yet another potential crime meow2u3 Jan 2018 #11
Collusion with Israel has been long overlooked - about time! floppyboo Jan 2018 #12
Surprise, surprise, surprise....nt 2naSalit Jan 2018 #13
Looks like prima facie Logan Act violation to me, but then I'm not a lawyer pecosbob Jan 2018 #14
I hope it at least galled him to be taking orders RandomAccess Jan 2018 #15
President's son-in-law directed National Security Adviser to do something dalton99a Jan 2018 #16

muriel_volestrangler

(101,307 posts)
6. Since Obama's administration abstained on the vote, I'm not sure how important this is
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:19 PM
Jan 2018
https://www.un.org/press/en/2016/sc12657.doc.htm

If they'd been lobbying to oppose what the US government said, it'd be serious. But since Obama sat on the fence, I can't see this as being a "gotcha" moment.

Edit to add: you can get past the firewall for the WSJ article by following the link from their tweet:


karynnj

(59,501 posts)
7. The US abstaining meant the resolution passed - which is what the US wanted
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 01:52 PM
Jan 2018

If it was nothing, why was there a HUGE reaction against President Obama and Secretary Kerry by the Israel hawks, Netanyahu and the evangelicals?

You could argue that had the Obama administration could have taken a STRONGER position and voted for the resolution that - in essence - was standard US policy and had been written to meet the definition of what we would allow to pass. I suspect that allowing this resolution to pass - and even more John Kerry's speech - was done because they wanted to get their position - for the two state solution and the danger of more and more settlements completely on the record ... knowing that it was not a politically popular thing to do. (In Kerry's case, I consider that speech at what is likely to be the end of his most prominent position to be a bookend with his 1971 speech at the other side. Both heart felt, both controversial, and both speaking truth.) I think the US (non orthodox) Jewish, US liberal etc position of being for a two state solution was very sincere, even as it became increasing less likely. I heard Kerry saying there was a narrow window, that was closing to achieve this as far back as 2004. There were many articles in the Haaretz, the US Jewish press, and in some mainstream media in 2014, after the talks failed and as there was another war with Gaza saying that liberal zionism, which is essentially based on a real two state solution, was dead. I think that resolution -and that talk - was intended as the last gasp of arguing that that was the best thing to do. It was a desperate plea.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
9. First of all,
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 02:46 PM
Jan 2018

Who the fuck on that team thought that Kushner would have the authority to tell anybody to do anything (let alone flynn..If that were me I'd have told his inlaw ass to go get bent).
Secondarily to that, what they couldn't wait a whole month to start wrecking the joint LEGALLY?

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
10. Wow.
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 03:03 PM
Jan 2018

It's going down. Who knows what else Flynn has to say? He's probably spilled all of it to Mueller already.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
12. Collusion with Israel has been long overlooked - about time!
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 03:31 PM
Jan 2018

This isn't new news, not for Kushner et al but going back administrations. Hopefully collusion and pay back with this foreign power will get the attention it deserves.

dalton99a

(81,454 posts)
16. President's son-in-law directed National Security Adviser to do something
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 02:23 PM
Jan 2018

No, nothing wrong with that picture

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