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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 04:41 PM Jan 2018

Immigrant acquitted of killing is sentenced for gun charge

Source: Associated Press




By PAUL ELIAS
16 minutes ago

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A Mexican man acquitted of murder in the shooting death of a San Francisco woman that sparked a national immigration debate was sentenced Friday to time served for illegal gun possession.

San Francisco Superior Court Judge Samuel Feng also denied a defense request to give Jose Ines Garcia Zarate a new trial for his conviction of being a felon in possession of a firearm. Garcia Zarate will now be taken into federal custody, but it’s not clear when he will be transferred.

Defense attorneys argued that the judge failed to properly instruct jurors, who found Garcia Zarate not guilty last month of killing Kate Steinle on a popular pier in 2015. Garcia Zarate faced a maximum sentence of three years behind bars but has been held in the San Francisco jail since his July 1, 2015, arrest.

He had previously been convicted of illegally re-entering the United States and been deported five times before Steinle was fatally shot. The San Francisco sheriff’s department released him from jail several weeks before the shooting, ignoring a request from federal immigration officials to detain him for a sixth deportation.

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Immigrant acquitted of killing is sentenced for gun charge (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2018 OP
So now what? Archae Jan 2018 #1
In all this I've never heard where he worked underpants Jan 2018 #3
He had a history of manufacturing and selling narcotics. Perhaps he didnt have a legit job! Floyd R. Turbo Jan 2018 #7
Good news. Justice served Abouttime Jan 2018 #2
You're kidding, right? Sailor65x1 Jan 2018 #4
Zarate is innocent of Steinles unfortunate death Abouttime Jan 2018 #9
The fact that SF is a sanctuary city christx30 Jan 2018 #14
He's still facing Federal charges of illegally entering the country, john657 Jan 2018 #19
A better life...in Mexico! GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #15
Hes gong to serve a few years for the gun charge before they send him back to Mexico. Calista241 Jan 2018 #22
Judge already sentenced him to time served to date. The verdict of not guilty on the murder Fred Sanders Jan 2018 #27
Let him go samir.g Jan 2018 #5
Send him back to Mexico Vogon_Glory Jan 2018 #6
He's an innocent man! Abouttime Jan 2018 #10
He's still in the country without authorization. christx30 Jan 2018 #13
What about a conviction of illegal gun possession do you not understand? GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #16
If he was an American hed presumably...... RhodeIslandOne Jan 2018 #17
Thats bullshit. Calista241 Jan 2018 #23
The only one here who should be ashamed is you john657 Jan 2018 #25
If....if...if...how many ifs can you put in front of any event and claim it would be different...if? Fred Sanders Jan 2018 #26
Again, IF this POS hadn't been in our country ILLEGALLY, john657 Jan 2018 #28
What makes him a POS? Bradical79 Jan 2018 #32
The fact that he's a drug dealer, john657 Jan 2018 #35
It says he picked up some rags, didn't know there was a gun Bradical79 Jan 2018 #31
The jury had reasonable doubt on homicide. Some folks do not understand criminal law at all. Fred Sanders Jan 2018 #33
That's what he says, john657 Jan 2018 #37
Admission of bias is the first step to suppressing it. Nice work! LanternWaste Jan 2018 #38
His first story was that he picked up the gun christx30 Jan 2018 #40
My point exactly. john657 Jan 2018 #41
Ah, thanks Bradical79 Jan 2018 #42
Here's an article from November, christx30 Jan 2018 #43
Good Devil Child Jan 2018 #8
Justice has been delivered Abouttime Jan 2018 #11
Yes and yes Devil Child Jan 2018 #12
RW position is if anyone of the millions in America illegally commit any crime it is outrageous. Fred Sanders Jan 2018 #34
What's right wing about what he/she said? john657 Jan 2018 #36
So the only people that can judge him are those who shot and killed someone? MichMan Jan 2018 #18
Your position on this is one of the most ridiculous ones I've ever heard. john657 Jan 2018 #20
This guy is one of our own, a victim of trumpism. ileus Jan 2018 #21
You obviously forgot the sarcasm thingy GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #24
I have heard Trumpers talk about this guy so many times. I say why are they choosing to be angry Doodley Jan 2018 #29
So is it standard practice to carry water GaryCnf Jan 2018 #30
There's that one, there's also his conviction christx30 Jan 2018 #39

underpants

(182,614 posts)
3. In all this I've never heard where he worked
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 05:05 PM
Jan 2018

but that would be reporting the entire story and we just can't have that.

 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
2. Good news. Justice served
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 05:04 PM
Jan 2018

He should be free to go, SF is a sanctuary city. This whole thing is a tragedy for all involved. Hopefully Mr. Zarate is able to take advantage of this opportunity to better his life.

 

Sailor65x1

(554 posts)
4. You're kidding, right?
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 05:13 PM
Jan 2018

How exactly is this a tragedy for him again? Should we put your loved one on the altar of this stupidity next?

 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
9. Zarate is innocent of Steinles unfortunate death
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 09:15 PM
Jan 2018

The poor guy picked up what he thought was a jacket and the gun fired, to find him guilty of 'possession' of the gun is a stretch at best. He's served his time in jail and now he's free to go.
The FACT that SF and California are sanctuaries for the undocumented pretty much kills any chance he's deported, otherwise we are hypocrites.
Zarate did his time and was judged by his peers to be innocent. Forget this entire tragic incident, Kate Steinle is dead and buried and no amount of punishment upon an innocent man will change that sad fact.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
14. The fact that SF is a sanctuary city
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 10:07 PM
Jan 2018

has absolutely no bearing on what the Feds want to do to Zarate. A local ordinance does not superceed federal law.
If a local sheriff wanted to allow automatic weapon in his county, the Feds can still arrest people in possession of illegal weapons. It's not hypocrisy. It's the constitution.

 

john657

(1,058 posts)
19. He's still facing Federal charges of illegally entering the country,
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 01:01 PM
Jan 2018
The FACT that SF and California are sanctuaries for the undocumented pretty much kills any chance he's deported, otherwise we are hypocrites.


Not true, he can and will be charged Federally for illegally entering the country and will be deported, again.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
15. A better life...in Mexico!
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 10:49 PM
Jan 2018

He is a Felon. He needs to be deported immediately and know he faces prison if he returns.

We cannot let Trumps insanity drive our positions and become against any immigration laws. We have to have rational immigration laws because open boarders is not something any American wants.

A 5 time deported Felon is not someone I want as a fellow American. We are not talking DACA kids here.

Kick his ass out and keep it out.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
22. Hes gong to serve a few years for the gun charge before they send him back to Mexico.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 08:48 PM
Jan 2018

They could deport him because they want to, they didn’t need to prosecute him for gun possession to do so.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
27. Judge already sentenced him to time served to date. The verdict of not guilty on the murder
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 02:34 PM
Jan 2018

and guilty of gun possession is a legal "inconsistent verdict".

If the jury believed him, picked up an abandoned gun momentarily and it accidentally went off, so no murder, how is he then guilty of gun possession, which he only had for seconds? Not his gun.

Vogon_Glory

(9,109 posts)
6. Send him back to Mexico
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 05:45 PM
Jan 2018

While I'm sympathetic to most undocumented residents of the US, my sympathy is lacking to trouble-makers and people whose carelessness kill other people. As far as I'm concerned, Zarate ought to be deported back to Mexico.

 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
10. He's an innocent man!
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 09:18 PM
Jan 2018

If Zarate was a white American nobody would care about this, the fact he is undocumented and Hispanic gives fascists and xenophobes a reason to pile on, you ought to be ashamed.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
13. He's still in the country without authorization.
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 09:48 PM
Jan 2018

And there is no way he's going to be naturalized, or anything.
He can still be deported. And if he's caught in the country again without authorizion, he can go to prison for 10 years.
He's a drug manufacturer. We have plenty of those.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
16. What about a conviction of illegal gun possession do you not understand?
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 10:52 PM
Jan 2018

He is a Felon. He needs to go.

If in opposition to Trumps racist immigration positions we decide to become the party of NO immigration laws, we will never win another election.

This guy does not deserve to become a fellow American.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
23. Thats bullshit.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 08:57 PM
Jan 2018

A woman is dead. The fact that jurors said it was an accident doesn’t affect the fact that he was a felon in possession of a gun.

It doesn’t matter if he didn’t knew there was a gun. His actions in picking up whatever he picked up brought a firearm into his possession.

And anyone else would have been put on trial as well. White, black, whatever, District Attorney’s do not like gun deaths in their city, and they especially do not like gun deaths in broad daylight in tourist areas.

 

john657

(1,058 posts)
25. The only one here who should be ashamed is you
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 02:26 PM
Jan 2018

for defending and excusing his actions that led to a young woman's death.
If he hadn't been in our country illegally, than this young woman would still be alive today.

The shame is on you buddy.

 

john657

(1,058 posts)
28. Again, IF this POS hadn't been in our country ILLEGALLY,
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 02:48 PM
Jan 2018

then the young woman would still be alive today.

 

john657

(1,058 posts)
35. The fact that he's a drug dealer,
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 01:30 PM
Jan 2018

the fact that he's been deported several times already.
He should not have been in the country in the first place, maybe this young woman would still be alive today if he had stayed deported.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
31. It says he picked up some rags, didn't know there was a gun
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 06:34 PM
Jan 2018

and the thing went off. Was his story shown to be false? I don't see one way or another. Just wondering where the hate is coming from, because if he told the truth, it's just a freak accident.

 

john657

(1,058 posts)
37. That's what he says,
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 01:33 PM
Jan 2018

but is it true?
I have my doubts.

He shouldn't have been in the country in the first place, so I choose not to believe him.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
38. Admission of bias is the first step to suppressing it. Nice work!
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 01:45 PM
Jan 2018

Admission of bias is the first step to suppressing it. Nice work!

christx30

(6,241 posts)
40. His first story was that he picked up the gun
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 01:54 PM
Jan 2018

Last edited Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:19 PM - Edit history (1)

and was shooting at seals in the area. But during trial, it changed to he was picking up some rags and a gun went off. So which was the truth?

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
42. Ah, thanks
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:00 PM
Jan 2018

Didn't know the story changed. So yeah, gun charges and deportation (again) seem appropriate since that's the case.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
43. Here's an article from November,
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 04:30 PM
Jan 2018

It's not bias that shows there's a lot wrong with his testimony. He says he was shooting at seals, then he says he picked up some rags and the gun went off, so he threw the gun into the bay because he was afraid it was going to go off again.
It's clear he is a liar.
http://abc7news.com/sfpd-admits-to-lying-to-defendant-in-steinle-case-for-confession-/2592927/

 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
11. Justice has been delivered
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 09:20 PM
Jan 2018

Zarate, credit time served. Have you ever been in jail? Have you ever had a judge tell you you're free to go?
Don't judge Zarate unless you've been in his shoes.
He did his time, let him be.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
12. Yes and yes
Fri Jan 5, 2018, 09:41 PM
Jan 2018

Naaaah I'll keep judging him as he should have never been in this country since his first deportation.

Kate Steinle is dead because of his actions. Fuck Zarate.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
34. RW position is if anyone of the millions in America illegally commit any crime it is outrageous.
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 08:09 PM
Jan 2018

Lot of folks at DU with same meme...but only if the person is not white.

 

john657

(1,058 posts)
20. Your position on this is one of the most ridiculous ones I've ever heard.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 01:07 PM
Jan 2018

He's a convicted Felon, he's illegally in the country for the 5th time, he's a drug dealer, and you want him to just walk free?

Do you have any idea of how irrational you sound?

ileus

(15,396 posts)
21. This guy is one of our own, a victim of trumpism.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 07:54 PM
Jan 2018

And as such we should support him through thick and thin, no matter what.


GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
24. You obviously forgot the sarcasm thingy
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 09:39 PM
Jan 2018

Cause you can’t reasonably expect anyone to support a 5 time deported, drug trafficking involved Felon. Who BTW was responsible for a ladies death.

Make him serve his time then ship his Felon ass back to Mexico. And let him know if we catch him here again he is looking at hard time.

Supporting a compassionate and rational immigration policy does not mean that everyone who makes it here gets to stay. And double that for criminals. If that is our position we might as well strike the tent and stop even trying to win elections.

Doodley

(9,041 posts)
29. I have heard Trumpers talk about this guy so many times. I say why are they choosing to be angry
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 02:48 PM
Jan 2018

about him in particular when 10,000 Americans shoot each other dead a year? Is it only because they repeat what Trump says?

 

GaryCnf

(1,399 posts)
30. So is it standard practice to carry water
Sun Jan 7, 2018, 04:00 PM
Jan 2018

For right wing memes?

https://themattgonzalezreader.wordpress.com/2017/07/18/juan-francisco-lopez-sanchez-3/

Using the word "felony" as a pejorative to exaggerate insignificant conduct which would have never been charged if the person were some white suburbanite is something the right wing does.

It was an accident. If anyone was to blame it's the person who left the gun there in the first place.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
39. There's that one, there's also his conviction
Tue Jan 9, 2018, 01:48 PM
Jan 2018

for drug trafficking, and his multiple illegal entry into the US. He IS a felon.

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