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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 12:15 PM Jan 2018

Rand Paul: Trump's 'Shithole' Comments Were Not Racist

Source: Newsweek Magazine




BY CARLOS BALLESTEROS ON 1/14/18 AT 10:55 AM

Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky said Sunday that it is "unfair" to call President Donald Trump a racist off of his reported remarks about immigrants from the "shithole countries" of Haiti and the continent of Africa.

“I don’t think the comments were constructive at all, but I also think that, to be fair, we shouldn’t draw conclusions that he didn’t intend,” the Kentucky Republican said on NBC's Meet The Press.

As proof that the president isn't racist, Paul brought up a medical trip financed in part by Trump to provide eye care and surgeries to a couple hundred people in Haiti in 2015. “I think it’s unfair to sort of paint him, ‘oh well, he’s a racist,’ when I know for a fact that he cares very deeply about the people of Haiti because he helped finance a trip where they would get vision back for 200 people in Haiti,” Paul said.

Trump's comments came during a bipartisan meeting with lawmakers on Tuesday in the Oval Office. According to multiple reports, including testimony from Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois, who was present at the meeting, Trump questioned why the United States attracted a large number of immigrants and refugees from "shithole countries" such as Haiti. Trump also reportedly wondered why the U.S. didn't have more immigrants from predominantly white and economically stable countries like Norway.


Read more: http://www.newsweek.com/trump-shithole-rand-paul-racist-haiti-africa-immigrants-780985

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Rand Paul: Trump's 'Shithole' Comments Were Not Racist (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2018 OP
Fuck you, Rand, you lickspittle toady. n/t theaocp Jan 2018 #1
This makes Paul a racist in my view. BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #2
Didnt realize he was concussed during neighbor spat benld74 Jan 2018 #3
How is Rand able to speak Liberalagogo Jan 2018 #4
Yummm! gibraltar72 Jan 2018 #5
Well, when you come from a shithole state like Kentucky JCMach1 Jan 2018 #6
I bet I contribute more to Haiti in one year than the moron has in his whole Motley13 Jan 2018 #7
Another whitesplaining fuck. onecaliberal Jan 2018 #8
and one racist to another racist should know. Just like his racist father still_one Jan 2018 #9
Ok, I'll play. Corgigal Jan 2018 #10
I hope Kentuckians get rid of this fraud. democratisphere Jan 2018 #11
You know Rand PatSeg Jan 2018 #12
Now, we know what this piece of shit said UpInArms Jan 2018 #13
If Trump came to a press conference in black face Penn Voter Jan 2018 #14
he has to appear in white robes or quote Hitler's antisemitism, otherwise he's not a racist steve2470 Jan 2018 #28
Maybe now we know why his neighbor kicked his ass Augiedog Jan 2018 #15
+1 dalton99a Jan 2018 #21
If the namecalling isn't racist enough for you, Rand C_U_L8R Jan 2018 #16
A $10,000 donation. It wasn't even Trump's money, it was the foundation's. Demit Jan 2018 #17
I've noticed here in TN that a lot of people who call themselves Libertarian are racist Farmer-Rick Jan 2018 #18
Poor little Tiny Hands, a victim of all those who call him a racist. So unfair! Doodley Jan 2018 #19
Shut yer fuckin' pie-hole, Rand, you D-bag hayseed. DinahMoeHum Jan 2018 #20
Rand Paul is a Libertarian, which is to say a Social Darwinist William Seger Jan 2018 #22
Yep. The same old "If you let me rob you, then you deserve it" dalton99a Jan 2018 #23
His neighbor should have finished the job he started. paleotn Jan 2018 #24
Hey Rand Paul Bros & Beckys -- Come in here and defend your boy... Blue_Tires Jan 2018 #25
He probably doesn't think his daddy Ron Paul is racist either lunasun Jan 2018 #26
Not racist???? Explain the Norway comment. Freethinker65 Jan 2018 #27
Are we supposed to take his comments forgotmylogin Jan 2018 #29
so how about the "Norway comments" Rand? 0rganism Jan 2018 #30
"Paul brought up a medical trip (to Haiti) financed in part by Trump" LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2018 #31
perhaps the Pauls could help American citizens have cateract surgery too? some healthcare clinics? Sunlei Jan 2018 #32
Rand Paul: "The President may look like a duck, walk like a duck, and quack like a duck . . . tclambert Jan 2018 #33

JCMach1

(27,556 posts)
6. Well, when you come from a shithole state like Kentucky
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 12:28 PM
Jan 2018

No elitism in my statement...


Notice how that works, Rand?

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
7. I bet I contribute more to Haiti in one year than the moron has in his whole
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 12:31 PM
Jan 2018

self-absorbed life.

Those poor people have been through so much.

onecaliberal

(32,826 posts)
8. Another whitesplaining fuck.
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 12:31 PM
Jan 2018

Before you flame me I am a white woman. People are tired of republican white men commenting on the life experiences of folks with black and brown skin and women.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
10. Ok, I'll play.
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 12:36 PM
Jan 2018

Then I can draw the conclusion that you and you're neighbor, the one that gave you 5 broken ribs, were not really fighting over the landscaping.

Didn't even want to report it ? Seems kind of passionate to me.

Trump provided funds for eye surgeries? Prove it, or it didn't happen.

Moved here to vote all you guys out. This little state needs to learn how to work with others, which means both you Senators got to go. Time for a new job, where we don't pay you.

Going to meet Congresswoman to be Amy McGrath this week. Let's go, got some funds and time.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
12. You know Rand
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 12:37 PM
Jan 2018

A person COULD call a country a "shithole" without it being racist, but when the comment comes out of the mouth of a chronic, prolific, and consistent racist, I think it is a fair assumption to call it racist.

Meanwhile, Rand Paul does not have a good track record when it comes to racism, so he would have been wise to just shut the hell up.

Penn Voter

(247 posts)
14. If Trump came to a press conference in black face
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 12:56 PM
Jan 2018

these apologists would say Trump wasn't being racist. Just remember that David Duke and other white supremacists agree with Trump. The 2018 midterms have to show that the Trump supporters are in the minority.

C_U_L8R

(44,998 posts)
16. If the namecalling isn't racist enough for you, Rand
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 12:59 PM
Jan 2018

then how about that racist immigration policy???

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
17. A $10,000 donation. It wasn't even Trump's money, it was the foundation's.
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 01:03 PM
Jan 2018

Which we all know came from other people. And Rand Paul didn't think too much of Trump at the time. He thought he was insincere and vulgar.
https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/rand-paul-how-do-you-out-trump-irrational-n412451

Farmer-Rick

(10,154 posts)
18. I've noticed here in TN that a lot of people who call themselves Libertarian are racist
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 01:07 PM
Jan 2018

There are plenty of RepubliCON racists too but seems almost all the Libertarians I've met around here are full fledged, would fly the Confederate swastika if they could get away without their neighbors knowing, hate filled racist. In my mind, if you are are for free flowing unregulated capitalism and greed, you wouldn't hate a population so much that you would stop them from buying your product and making you richer. But they would and they do.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
22. Rand Paul is a Libertarian, which is to say a Social Darwinist
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 01:29 PM
Jan 2018

Of course he agrees with Trump that people from poor countries are inferior, worthless people; otherwise they wouldn't be poor countries.

forgotmylogin

(7,527 posts)
29. Are we supposed to take his comments
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 07:21 PM
Jan 2018

At face value? Or are we supposed to look beyond his words “into his heart” per Kellyanne Conway?

Either way doesn’t come out well.

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
30. so how about the "Norway comments" Rand?
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 07:29 PM
Jan 2018

these guys are trying a multipronged attack on reality
1 it didn't happen (raw denial)
2 if it did happen it wasn't racist (gaslighting)
3 if it was racist it didn't happen because Trump has great relationships with Haitians/Africans/whoever (zomg what even is this "technique"?)
4 Obama/Clinton/Bird/someDemocratSomewhere was racist too (whataboutism)
5 missiles hitting Hawaii (non sequiter distraction)

i often heard about reality being "overrated" and such, but i don't trust GOP assclowns to replace it with something better after they've finished pillaging and burning it down.

31. "Paul brought up a medical trip (to Haiti) financed in part by Trump"
Sun Jan 14, 2018, 07:48 PM
Jan 2018

He most likely paid for it out of Trump Foundation funds, and we know what a scam that is -- take in donations from one side and pretend it's your money as it's disbursed, so you get all the credit.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
32. perhaps the Pauls could help American citizens have cateract surgery too? some healthcare clinics?
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 12:05 AM
Jan 2018

leadfree water for a couple of the forgotten American 'neighborhoods'?? anything?

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
33. Rand Paul: "The President may look like a duck, walk like a duck, and quack like a duck . . .
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 01:50 PM
Jan 2018

and wear the feathers of a duck, and have the DNA of a duck. That does not prove he is 100% duck. He might be part Norwegian."

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