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BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 10:19 AM Jan 2018

Trump upends GOP strategy to avoid shutdown with call to settle childhood insurance impasse

Source: Washington Post

President Trump upended the GOPs strategy to avert a shutdown early Thursday when he declared that an extension of a federal health insurance program for children should be part of a long term solution and not a stopgap spending plan.

That directly contradicts the thinking of congressional Republicans, who were eager to force Democrats to choose between a popular health care program they have pushed to renew for months and their effort to win legal protections for hundreds of thousands of young undocumented immigrants.

The House is scheduled to vote as soon as Thursday afternoon on the short-term spending bill with the health insurance program attached. Changing the bill could delay its consideration, further reducing the margin of error less than 48 hours before the shutdown deadline.

CHIP should be part of a long term solution, not a 30 Day, or short term, extension! Trump tweeted, using the acronym for the childhood health insurance program, known as the Childrens Health Insurance Program.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/trump-upends-gop-strategy-to-avoid-shutdown-with-call-to-settle-childhood-insurance-impasse/2018/01/18/be61af62-fc56-11e7-a46b-a3614530bd87_story.html





Who knows what will happen with CHIP now unless they have a clean bill - which needs to happen at the same time.

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Trump upends GOP strategy to avoid shutdown with call to settle childhood insurance impasse (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 OP
Classic Trump The Mouth Jan 2018 #1
This is how narcissistic con artists operate. Chaos, division, playing people against each Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #2
And it works The Mouth Jan 2018 #3
Yes it is a successful strategy and causes a lot of damage. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #6
THIS BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #4
I wrote an almost identical reply on another post BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #5
Hard to tell if it is his dementia, his personality disorders, or someone else manipulating him. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #7
It's a combo of those things BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #8
Yes, and he also bounces off of Fox news a lot as well. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #12
There is only 1 reason he'd do this, and that's on Putin's orders to fuck us over. lark Jan 2018 #9
Ok WHO is the Trump strategist who is laying out the day to day strategy? usaf-vet Jan 2018 #10
See post #8 BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #11

The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
1. Classic Trump
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 10:31 AM
Jan 2018

The guy thrives on chaos. Keeping everyone off balance is his 'style'.
Since he doesn't care about anything other than himself, it doesn't matter to him if anything gets passed or not; as long as he's in the headlines kids can go without health insurance or dreamers can be deported, or not.

Irish_Dem

(46,918 posts)
2. This is how narcissistic con artists operate. Chaos, division, playing people against each
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 10:35 AM
Jan 2018

other. He loves the attention and making others powerless.
Keeps everyone off kilter.

Gives him power and attention.

The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
3. And it works
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 10:41 AM
Jan 2018

Conservatives take him for a savior, liberals for a deranged idiot, both suit him fine. He's a sociopath in a sociopath's preferred position: nothing to lose (he gets publicity, his base loves him, the people who already hate him still hate him) with a slight chance of 'winning' (further consolidating wealth and power for his real peers) and the only damage will be done to the powerless who would never vote for him anyway.

Irish_Dem

(46,918 posts)
6. Yes it is a successful strategy and causes a lot of damage.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 11:10 AM
Jan 2018

In many cases sociopaths gets arrested or fired, or just move on when they
want fresh pastures. In Trump's case it remains to be seen if he will face
any consequences.

But yes there is going to be some major mop up when he is gone.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
5. I wrote an almost identical reply on another post
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 11:01 AM
Jan 2018

about the moron fuming over Kelly's comments on Fux Ruse. He instigates chaos if there is none since he is a sadistic bully and mentally ill. He is in his element if there is chaos in his environment.

Irish_Dem

(46,918 posts)
7. Hard to tell if it is his dementia, his personality disorders, or someone else manipulating him.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 11:13 AM
Jan 2018

He keeps flip flopping on issues.
He could not remember what he said the day before.
Or he is just yanking everyone around, which he loves to do.
Of if someone has gotten to him and manipulated him into changing sides.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
8. It's a combo of those things
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 11:28 AM
Jan 2018

What has been oft-said (and was also noted in "the book" ) was that whoever he talks to last, is who influences him the most at that moment. And the book mentioned how aides tried to jocky time in to get their views implanted in his knowledge-phobic brain as close in timeframe as possible, for when they needed a decision announced by him.

lark

(23,091 posts)
9. There is only 1 reason he'd do this, and that's on Putin's orders to fuck us over.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 12:26 PM
Jan 2018

Hair Furor WANTS a shutdown because Putin told him he'd profit personally from it, so is making sure this happens. Putin wants the US credit rating to be lowered so it hurts our standing in the world, thereby making Russia look better in comparison than it is. Also, it would hurt our military in foreign countries, another win for Russia. Those 2 oligarchs think a shutdown is a win/win for them personally nad that's what orange assface wants.

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
10. Ok WHO is the Trump strategist who is laying out the day to day strategy?
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 12:38 PM
Jan 2018

It surely isn't Trump the stable genius. He, by all accounts, doesn't have a long enough attention span.

His support staff are either not experienced enough of the political ins and outs of the congressional machine or have their own ideological agenda the they want pushed. Miller and Kelly fit in that category.

Ryan and McConnell appear to get their specific strategies upended repeatedly by Trumps hair brain Tweets often driven by the last 15 minute of a Fox news rant.

SO WHO is setting the agenda? Who thinks it through what Congress is doing and how Congress works? I can't believe it is a roll of the dice in the empty space in Trumps head.

WHO?

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
11. See post #8
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 12:46 PM
Jan 2018

It's whoever gets his ear at a particular moment just before a decision gets announced. From what has been described about the process, they all jockey to get on his schedule in order to feed his adled brain some policy point, and then he goes with it... but just for that moment.

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