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progree

(10,864 posts)
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 02:46 AM Jan 2018

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msongs

(67,199 posts)
1. oh no. theyll just have to read books or talk with their families and friends instead nt
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 02:51 AM
Jan 2018

progree

(10,864 posts)
3. Yes, and go to church services and do volunteer work and read the Bible
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 02:57 AM
Jan 2018

More_Cowbell

(2,190 posts)
16. We're talking about people who are serving far away from home
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 04:10 AM
Jan 2018

It's just another consequence of the GOP being unable to govern. Trump is willing to taunt North Korea into a war, but he has no consideration for the military who will actually fight his war.

orleans

(33,987 posts)
2. not a lot of sympathy about this
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 02:57 AM
Jan 2018

progree

(10,864 posts)
6. I'm not getting it myself. I guess some people haven't served in the military
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 03:05 AM
Jan 2018

or maybe since its late Saturday night, people are making such heartless comments. Maybe we should cancel USO shows as well and cut military pay.

It really sucks being away from home basically for years in austere circumstances (at least it was when I served), and we are grateful for any kind of treat or break from the routine.

Some of us, including myself, were forced into military service.

orleans

(33,987 posts)
7. from someone who only had a dad
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 03:24 AM
Jan 2018

serve in the military during two wars (ww2 & korean) i guess i'm viewing it this way:
i believe a firm stand on daca (and not fucking over the dreamers) is worth someone not being able to watch a football game.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
17. I don't recall watching any TV when I was in Vietnam and I survived.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 04:25 AM
Jan 2018

DURHAM D

(32,596 posts)
4. boo hoo
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 02:57 AM
Jan 2018

progree

(10,864 posts)
5. ??? To hell with our service members???
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 03:03 AM
Jan 2018

orleans

(33,987 posts)
8. no one said that
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 03:24 AM
Jan 2018

progree

(10,864 posts)
9. So what was the "not much sympathy" about?
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 03:26 AM
Jan 2018

or the "boo hoo" by another poster.

or the "oh no. theyll just have to read books or talk with their families and friends instead nt" by another poster.

yes, I'm fucking pissed off.

orleans

(33,987 posts)
10. did you see my other post to you upthread? maybe that will help explain it
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 03:29 AM
Jan 2018

progree

(10,864 posts)
11. Yes I saw it, and as far as an explanation .... I'm not blaming the dreamers
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 03:30 AM
Jan 2018

or the Democrats. It's just shitty that the Trump administration cut services to our service members -- I think they could have avoided that, at least in the short-term with some planning and care. In the last shutdown, the AFN (Armed Forces Network) was kept going, according to the article in the OP.

orleans

(33,987 posts)
12. well, from what i saw claire mccaskill
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 03:40 AM
Jan 2018

"made an effort shortly after midnight to get the troops' salaries and death benefits paid through the shutdown. “I want to make sure that tonight we send a very clear signal that we don't want one moment to pass with there being any uncertainty of any soldier anywhere in the world "
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2018/01/20/amid-government-shutdown-the-military-becomes-a-centerpiece-to-make-political-jabs/?utm_term=.ca0e65315322

and mcconnell objected to a vote on this.

BUT i think daca is more important than a couple games of football. besides,

"WASHINGTON — About 900 undocumented immigrants known as "DREAMers" are currently serving in the United States military, the Pentagon says — which could prove a major challenge for the Trump administration as it tries to wind down the Obama-era program that protected those immigrants from deportation.

Those service members — all of whom have health care or language skills the U.S. military considers vital — would be forced to leave the military under Trump policy that would rescind their protected status beginning next March.

The enlistees are a small proportion of the 800,000 immigrants who have received quasi-legal status under the program known as DACA, or Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals.

But they are also among the most symbolically important faces of the program, now that President Trump has called on Congress to resolve the fate of immigrants whose parents brought them to the country illegally as children. "

more at link
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/09/07/trump-administration-struggles-fate-900-dreamers-serving-military/640637001/

what do you think the priority of those 900 military "dreamers" are? watching football or staying in this country and in their military jobs?

progree

(10,864 posts)
13. I don't see it as either-or -- Armed Forces Network for the military or DACA
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 03:45 AM
Jan 2018

I believe the Trump administration could have, with planning and care, kept the Armed Forces Network running, like was done in the previous shutdown.

orleans

(33,987 posts)
14. i see what you mean
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 03:53 AM
Jan 2018

but the "Trump administration" (as you so politely put it) has no care.

and neither do those republican assholes in the house & senate

progree

(10,864 posts)
15. ...
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 04:00 AM
Jan 2018
but the "Trump administration" (as you so politely put it) has no care.


Politely, LOL. Yeah, I don't know what happened there. I remember editing it from "they" to "Trump administration" to make it more clear, and I was too much into a "clarity mindset" that I didn't think past that. I usually refer to Trump as Caligula instead of Trump.

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