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elleng

(130,876 posts)
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:03 PM Jan 2018

Trump Says He Is Willing to Speak Under Oath to Mueller. BUT has to listen to his lawyers.edit

Source: NYT

President Trump said on Wednesday that he was willing to speak under oath to Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel investigating Russias interference in the 2016 presidential campaign.

Im looking forward to it, Mr. Trump said of talking to Mr. Mueller, ending months of speculation over whether he would submit to questions from the special counsel, who is also believed to be looking into whether the president sought to thwart the inquiry.



Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/24/us/politics/trump-mueller.html?

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Trump Says He Is Willing to Speak Under Oath to Mueller. BUT has to listen to his lawyers.edit (Original Post) elleng Jan 2018 OP
Guarantee he wont do this or if he does he will take the 5th Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #1
I think he'll just lie and lie and lie some more. lark Jan 2018 #5
They got him if he does and then he will pardon himself. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #8
He pardons himself and congress and SCOTUS goes along with this treachery. lark Jan 2018 #14
I see civil unrest either way, if justice is done the deplorables start shooting, if justice isnt Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #16
Trump hopes for this scenario, Americans shooting each other over him. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #21
Perfect, actually. Martial law ends protest and democracy. Putin wants Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #22
Yes it would do the trick. And yes Putin sucked $600 billion out of the Russian economy. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #28
The hatred of the black people and gay people is why we will not survive. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #31
America is a violent, racist society with corrupt leadership. We are no longer a democracy. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #33
or rtracey Jan 2018 #55
Oh, you are one of THOSE people Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #56
I know rtracey Jan 2018 #59
According to politifact Perseus Jan 2018 #39
Justice Dept. will side with him and so might SCOTUS. lark Jan 2018 #52
Yep, he will testify under oath and lie. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #19
Trump says a lot of things. cyclonefence Jan 2018 #2
Let that be reported out loud, clear and wide! Chakaconcarne Jan 2018 #3
He really didn't have a choice, did he? jrthin Jan 2018 #4
Trump's told so many lies, he's forgotten what the truth is. procon Jan 2018 #6
Narcissists live in their own reality... targetpractice Jan 2018 #23
What does swearing an oath really mean to a constant liar? guillaumeb Jan 2018 #7
I'll believe this when it happens. Yonnie3 Jan 2018 #9
I honestly DemKittyNC Jan 2018 #10
And it will go a lot like this. japple Jan 2018 #11
He doesnt read contracts ever. He wouldnt understand anything in them. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #24
GMOAT! ffr Jan 2018 #57
Original GMOAT rant FTW! ffr Jan 2018 #58
He says that now. Wait a few minutes, that will change. George II Jan 2018 #12
I don't think he understands Betty Jan 2018 #13
OK - let's just give this s-hole a break, for once. erronis Jan 2018 #15
Uh oh.... louis-t Jan 2018 #17
Quick bucolic_frolic Jan 2018 #18
I don't recall I don't recall louis-t Jan 2018 #20
And Reagan. n/t Mr.Bill Jan 2018 #25
Now watch him change his mind after talking it over with some cronies. Kablooie Jan 2018 #26
and we all know how honest trump is still_one Jan 2018 #27
The next day, he'll proclaim himself exonerated C_U_L8R Jan 2018 #29
msnbc played a tape. Too fast for me to follow but anchor says he said it. riversedge Jan 2018 #30
An oath means nothing Bayard Jan 2018 #32
Exactly.... Dem4eva Jan 2018 #35
If he commits perjury, I think Mueller will have him. Akoto Jan 2018 #34
Good.... paleotn Jan 2018 #36
Yes, Mr. President, please come in. ffr Jan 2018 #37
He was willing to release his tax returns too, but they under audit & his attorneys said no. Historic NY Jan 2018 #38
How many times will he answer, "I don't recall"? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2018 #40
Any lawyer who doesn't do anything they can to prevent a Dotard like TRUMP testifying under oath Still In Wisconsin Jan 2018 #41
Wow Stardust1 Jan 2018 #42
The article itself has his lawyer already walking it back. briv1016 Jan 2018 #43
Good old TY COBB....once murdered a man in an alley (ALLEGEDLY) Dem4eva Jan 2018 #45
He'll lie. NastyRiffraff Jan 2018 #44
Lawyer to Trump Botany Jan 2018 #46
Ty Cobb (NOT a hall of famer) is already backing down on this. What a surprise. George II Jan 2018 #47
Am I remembering correctly that lawyers can't be present during Meuller's interviews? Fiendish Thingy Jan 2018 #48
That's In Front Of A Grand Jury, I'm Pretty Sure He Can Have Representation With Mueller DoctorJoJo Jan 2018 #50
In A Battle Of Wits With Anyone, Trump Is Only Half-Armed! DoctorJoJo Jan 2018 #49
What he says... duforsure Jan 2018 #51
Yep.. Maxheader Jan 2018 #53
hmmmm rtracey Jan 2018 #54

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
1. Guarantee he wont do this or if he does he will take the 5th
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:03 PM
Jan 2018

It has been explained to him he has to either lie or tell the truth, either way he is proven to be a criminal and a traitor.

lark

(23,097 posts)
5. I think he'll just lie and lie and lie some more.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:05 PM
Jan 2018

It's what he's always done in court and just paid a fine and walked away. He thinks Mueller can't touch him, russian repugs will protect him to protect themselves and there's no law in America he can't break.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
8. They got him if he does and then he will pardon himself.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:08 PM
Jan 2018

The bottom line is his deplorables will shoot you and me if he is brought to justice, I am certain of that

lark

(23,097 posts)
14. He pardons himself and congress and SCOTUS goes along with this treachery.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:14 PM
Jan 2018

It will take a huge uprising of the people to stop our planned destruction by this Putin puppet, if even that works.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
16. I see civil unrest either way, if justice is done the deplorables start shooting, if justice isnt
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:15 PM
Jan 2018

done the patriots have to take a stand.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
22. Perfect, actually. Martial law ends protest and democracy. Putin wants
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:22 PM
Jan 2018

your house, my house, our money and he means to get it.

Irish_Dem

(46,986 posts)
28. Yes it would do the trick. And yes Putin sucked $600 billion out of the Russian economy.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:37 PM
Jan 2018

America is his for the asking.

Irish_Dem

(46,986 posts)
33. America is a violent, racist society with corrupt leadership. We are no longer a democracy.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:47 PM
Jan 2018

We are an oligarchy, rule by the wealthy elite.
We are losing superpower status, and rightly so.
The US no longer has the moral high ground either internationally or domestically.

Our leaders do not care what happens to American citizens.

I assume the US will survive in some fashion.
But not the country that our founding fathers hoped for.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
55. or
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 12:22 PM
Jan 2018

Or we win the 2018 elections, help regain our country...help our citizens, in 2020, we win the presidential election, the new president on the first day sits at a table and with one stroke of the pen signs an executive order that says...." With this executive order, I hereby recall all previous administrations executive orders", including but not limited to reactivation of the Dreamer act, the cancellation of the off-shore drilling order, the cancellation of the pollution of waterways, etc, etc,etc....

that is what my hope is.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
56. Oh, you are one of THOSE people
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 12:55 PM
Jan 2018


All positive and stuff, half full and stuff.

Dont interfere with my NEG FEST please!

kidding
 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
59. I know
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 02:48 PM
Jan 2018

We all want that I think, just in different ways, but yes this administration has its aim set to destroy the Obama legacy, but it will not work. although things can happen fast, such as the deportations and other aspects of the immigration fight, but the majority of the actions in this country is very slow. This gives hope that in 3 years, this administration can be out on its ass, and we can begin to rebuild out standing in the world.

lark

(23,097 posts)
52. Justice Dept. will side with him and so might SCOTUS.
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 10:33 AM
Jan 2018

Complicit russian repugs in congress will not do anything unless forced to and maybe not even then.

Would they be forced by massive uprisings, maybe?

procon

(15,805 posts)
6. Trump's told so many lies, he's forgotten what the truth is.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:07 PM
Jan 2018

He should ask Bill Clinton about how a charge of perjury works.

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
23. Narcissists live in their own reality...
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:23 PM
Jan 2018

...They believe once they've told their "story" (lies and all) and others believe it... That's reality to them.

He truly has convinced himself of his own truth. Admitting otherwise, would bring too much shame.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
7. What does swearing an oath really mean to a constant liar?
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:08 PM
Jan 2018

I see this as talking to his base, and the corporate media, but to expect any truth out of Donald Trump is delusional at best.

Yonnie3

(17,434 posts)
9. I'll believe this when it happens.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:09 PM
Jan 2018

It is rather often that 45 doesn't say what he means or means what he says. It is very possible that he will find some way to refuse in the end.

Hmm ... He's is "willing," but unfortunately pressing affairs of state preclude his attendance.

DemKittyNC

(743 posts)
10. I honestly
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:09 PM
Jan 2018

would not be surprised if he just flat out admits to everything and brags about it as stupid as tRump is.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
24. He doesnt read contracts ever. He wouldnt understand anything in them.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:23 PM
Jan 2018

He is very dumb, uneducated, barely literate.

Knows absolutely nothing about business.

He can read at a 6th grade level is what has been concluded. He didnt go to school when in college, someone was paid to do it for him.

Betty

(1,352 posts)
13. I don't think he understands
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:12 PM
Jan 2018

what telling the truth is, or why it would be important under oath. He certainly doesn't think the rules apply to him.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
15. OK - let's just give this s-hole a break, for once.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:15 PM
Jan 2018

Maybe he'll surprise us all and be candid (and lucid) and let us know as much as he knows and remembers. However.

Well, there are lots of outs there.

- Candidity is in the eye of the beholder (Was that Voltaire?)
- Lucid is again depending on the the beholder (Dump's various physicians/faith-healers)
- As much as he knows could be based on his memory capabilities or selective amnesia

Can you prosecute someone who doesn't understand their crimes?

I hope you can at least put them in a padded cell somewhere and prosecute the shit out of everyone who has taken advantage of this poor moron.

louis-t

(23,292 posts)
20. I don't recall I don't recall
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:20 PM
Jan 2018

"I don't recall I don't recall I don't recall I don't recall I don't recall I don't recall I don't recall I don't recall I don't recall I don't recall I don't recall I don't recall I don't recall I don't recall I don't recall I don't recall I don't recall I don't recall I don't recall I don't recall I don't recall"

Worked for Sessions. And Gonzales.

Kablooie

(18,628 posts)
26. Now watch him change his mind after talking it over with some cronies.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:28 PM
Jan 2018

And when he's finally forced into to testifying it will all be blaming everyone else for everything.

He'll leave all puffed up and proud of being able to pass this test with flying colors.

 

Dem4eva

(41 posts)
35. Exactly....
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:52 PM
Jan 2018

no honor amongst thieves as they say. NO fucking way he's going to testify. Not without a lawyer any way. Something big will happen between now and then. War? Maybe.

Akoto

(4,266 posts)
34. If he commits perjury, I think Mueller will have him.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:51 PM
Jan 2018

Mueller's very carefully and meticulously worked his way up the chain of people he thinks are worth questioning. By now, if there's a lie told, Mueller probably already knows the truth of it.

Trump has said some things he simply won't be able to easily explain away before Mueller, i.e. mentioning "that Russia thing" as a problem in connection to Comey's firing. A lot of direct signs that he and his tried to meddle in the investigation and obstruct.

On the other hand, Trump doesn't have much choice either way. Mueller has him backed into a corner with all of the suspicious connections he's dug up. Trump's refusal to speak with the special counsel would only make him look more guilty.

40. How many times will he answer, "I don't recall"?
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 08:42 PM
Jan 2018

Is he going to beat Jeff Sessions' record? I think he would see that as a challenge.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
41. Any lawyer who doesn't do anything they can to prevent a Dotard like TRUMP testifying under oath
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 08:49 PM
Jan 2018

would, I think, be liable in a malpractice suit. I'm not kidding. I hope Dotard DOES testify under oath because I think he truly believes he can outsmart/evade anyone, including Muller. His attorney would, of course, were they worth the paper their law school diploma is printed on, realize that this is NOT the case and do anything they can to prevent such an occurrence!

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
43. The article itself has his lawyer already walking it back.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 09:34 PM
Jan 2018

"Ty Cobb, the White House lawyer leading the response to the investigation, said Mr. Trump was speaking hurriedly and intended only to say that he was willing to meet. “He’s ready to meet with them, but he’ll be guided by the advice of his personal counsel,” Mr. Cobb said."

 

Dem4eva

(41 posts)
45. Good old TY COBB....once murdered a man in an alley (ALLEGEDLY)
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 09:41 PM
Jan 2018

oh wait, wrong Ty Cobb:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/01/did-ty-cobb-kill-someone-in-1912-mlb-hall-of-fame

All joking aside, Trumpler's lawyers are like him: classless Dbags in over their heads. So, yeah he's already changed his story...shocked. As I said earlier, Roger Stone is a scumbag but he's right about the orange anus hanging himself if he does agree to talk to Mueller. Therefore, it won't happen IMHO.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
44. He'll lie.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 09:39 PM
Jan 2018

Dump sees no downside in lying. And who can blame him? He lies every single day and not only his Deplorable base and the KKK, neo-Nazis and alt-right still supports him, but Congressional Republicans do too.

However, his day of reckoning is coming; Mueller won't be so accommodating! Like Mother Nature, it's not nice to lie to the Special Counsel.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,596 posts)
48. Am I remembering correctly that lawyers can't be present during Meuller's interviews?
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 10:38 PM
Jan 2018

I swear I read that recently. Trump's lawyers can negotiate terms, and prep him, but once he's in the room, the Stable Genius is on his own...

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
51. What he says...
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 07:04 AM
Jan 2018

Means nothing, and he'll back out using a phony excuse, then play the victim. He did it for PR, and to claim others are the bad guys, not him. His claim he's not worried or concerned, all BS, he's worried.

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