Justice Dept. sides with conservative groups in free speech lawsuit against Berkeley
Source: Washington Post
By Matt Zapotosky January 25 at 1:00 PM
The Justice Department plans to file a statement of interest siding with two conservative groups who have sued the University of California at Berkeley, alleging that administrators created logistical and other hurdles that forced the cancellation or modification of planned events with right-leaning speakers.
Justice Department spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores said Thursday on CNN that the department was getting involved in the case because officials wanted to protect against universities the government really, if youre a public university deciding which speech is favored, which ideas are too controversial to even allow to be heard on a college campus.
Attorney General Jeff Sessions has been outspoken about free speech on college campuses, and in advance of his departments planned court filing, Associate Attorney General Rachel Brand penned a column for Fox News criticizing the practices at some colleges.
Free speech is under attack at college campuses across the country, Brand wrote. The problem is not limited to a few colleges barring radical speakers to avoid a riot. Universities large and small, public and private, are restricting students and professors speech or enabling others to silence speech with which they disagree.
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Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)a government of racists.
BumRushDaShow
(128,891 posts)in order to do these types of suits, and then bring in the provocateurs to start the riots.
Jim__
(14,075 posts)This is a short talk given at Berkeley by Judith Butler in December 2017. An excerpt:
We have perhaps all tired of the Milo Yiannapolis lecture invitation that was issued by College Republicans last year. I joined a letter calling for the cancellation of that talk, and I asked that the reference to hate speech be struck from the letter. To my surprise, it remained, and so too did my signature. The problem I had with his planned talk was not that he was expressing conservative ideas; the problem was that he brought cameras into his lecture hall on several occasions, and projected images of members of his audience on a screen against their will and then proceeded to shame and berate people for being fat or for being trans or, indeed, for being ugly in his view. Yiannopolis had posted a photo of Adelaide Kramer, a trans student at the University of Wisconsin Milwaukee, on the backdrop screen of his lecture and then not only jeered at her, but encouraged others to do the same. Perhaps shaming and berating someone against his or her will, however offensive, is protected speech as long as it does not constitute a physical threat to the person shamed and berated. But it surely does constitute harassment of the kind that all faculty and student instructors know about through the obligatory training we take in compliance with Title IX (or what is now left of Title IX). I will take up that point in a moment.
There are at least two noteworthy dimensions of this story. One has to do with the use of cameras and trigger cams that project images of audience members against their will and the direct appeal to those watching or present to mock, harass, troll, the person and to flood that persons email with insult and to hound that person. The other has to do with whether it is right to say that the first amendment came into conflict with anti-harassment protocols that we learned ought to be honored in the classroom and in all forms of social interaction with students. And further, how the invocation of the first amendment also goes against the core values of the university, ones that are time and again invoked to encourage us to engage in thoughtful conversation about controversial issues.
Let me take each of these issues separately, and then make a final remark. The projection of the image of Adelaide Kramer was not done with her consent, and the appeal to audience members and those watching online to flood the email, expose personal information, and invade privacy seemed to many of us a problem. What do we call what happened to Adelaide Kramer at Milwaukee, the trans student who found her image projected on the wall during the event, and then witnessed in frozen terror as the speaker incited the audience to harass her. So I use the word harassment and so, too, did President Mone of the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. Maybe we shrug our shoulders and say that this is expressive activity, but arguably it crosses the line between expressive activity and threat; and that line was crossed in a new way because of the way technology is now used tp incite people to engage in forms of cyber-bullying that did not exist before. So the legal vocabulary we have for distinguishing expressive activity from actual threats, or an incitement to engage in illegal activity those latter two are not protected as expressive freedoms under the first amendment the way we make that distinction changes when new technologies, or new uses of technology, produce new possibilities for incitement, harassment, and the commission of illegal activities. I am not sure which conservative viewpoints were being expressed at that moment: I could try to find propositional form for those actions, but would I then be generously and speculatively reconstructing the act as an idea, and so drawing attention away from this very specific form of targeting that included screening the image without consent, verbal incitement to harass that person, and calls to invade that persons privacy.
One reason why in meeting with College Republicans, I and some other signatories of that letter asked whether their group could not invite someone with the same viewpoints but who would neither threaten expose members of the audience against their will through the trigger cam nor incite harassment against targeted members of the audience or the campus community. Although all the signatories opposed the conservative ideas, only some of us opposed the talk on the basis of the ideas expressed, noting the fascism, the racism, the transphobia, even the homophobia I will return to these. One distinguishing feature of this case, however and one reason nobody circulated a petition against Ben Shapiro was the use of invasive visual technology in conjunction with explicit calls to invade privacy. Some of us asked both the student group and the administration to make sure that this technology would not be used by stipulating it as a condition of the contract. Our suggestions were not taken up as far as I know. Given that the university can honor the principle of speech and still regulate the time, place, and manner of the expressive activity in question, can we perhaps understand this form of technology as part of the manner and so subject to regulation? Or is it the case that this form of targeting and incitement moves us out of the domain of expressive activity altogether and into a consideration of harms and/or illegal activities.
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tymorial
(3,433 posts)I realize that I may be in the minority when it comes to this opinion.
The Mouth
(3,148 posts)Lots of folks, both right and left, are quite OK with quashing any speech they do not agree with.
I agree with you.
If it's on the public's dime then even if they are calling for the execution of bald headed bassplayers (yours truly) let them speak. Even if they are calling for an Islamic state, let them speak; unless and until it is immediate and unambiguous incitement to riot, or defamation of character (both things that are well defined in common and Constitutional law) let them speak. no exceptions, no 'if's, ands or buts.
Suppression will just entice the curious and increase the fervor and sense of being attacked of the believers.
If NO ONE but the actual idiots themselves showed up for one of these rallies, and the press showed only the barest of interest because it was nothing but a few dozen mental midgets speaking to a nearly empty hall or square, a hundred or two tiki torch bearing losers in bad polyester at the most, it would hurt them far more than a small army of us lefties ready to do pitched battle and create a ruckus. They *NEED* a violent reaction, it's what their very purpose is, for after all they can merely disseminate and reinforce their crap via youtube or the like; if Milo had been merely greeted with a mostly empty hall and a few dozen losers he would shrivel up and blow away.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)It may be unpopular but we have to allow all speech. When we begin to limit speech just because we don't like it we become "THEM"
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)however the suppression of free speech is perfectly acceptable among some here as long as it is conservative speakers.
tymorial
(3,433 posts)Obviously DU wasn't around but some here were. I would hope all of us know the history and understand its importance. The left spearheaded the 60s free speech movement and Berkley was the seat. The fact that suppression is happening at all is horrible. That it is occurring at Berkley of all places is extremely troubling regardless of the politics involved.
Clearly, some are either willfully ignoring our past or choosing hypocrisy by actively or silently supporting suppression of free speech.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)tymorial
(3,433 posts)Last edited Fri Jan 26, 2018, 09:58 AM - Edit history (1)
Last message was rather confusing. Lol.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)If the Universities were putting up road blocks in order to prevent their speech then the universities must be stopped from doing that.
This sounds no better than putting up road blocks to voting for minorities. Same principle. Make it too difficult so they go away.
That is not acceptable.
Initech
(100,065 posts)The alt right is playing a dangerous game of chicken with free speech and when they win, we all lose. Best solution is don't give these clowns a forum to speak in, in the first place.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)If the students want to invite them they must be allowed to do so.
tymorial
(3,433 posts)Initech
(100,065 posts)If you do invite them, and they don't get enough publicity, they get mad.
If you don't invite them, they sue until you do invite them.
It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Fuck these assholes.
tymorial
(3,433 posts)Initech
(100,065 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)machI
(1,285 posts)If an organization refuses to hear conservative propaganda, they will be receiving an action from the Justice Department.