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Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:50 AM

Train carrying members of Congress hits a truck

Source: CNN

A train carrying members of Congress to their legislative retreat in West Virginia, hit a truck Wednesday, multiple sources told CNN.

One GOP source was unsure how many members of Congress were on the train or how many people were injured, but said there were injuries.

That source said members "hit the deck."

Republican members of Congress were on their way for a retreat at The Greenbrier in White Sulphur Springs, West Virginia starting
Wednesday and ending Friday. Vice President Mike Pence is scheduled to speak to members later Wednesday and President Donald Trump is scheduled to address the event tomorrow.


Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/31/politics/congress-train-accident/index.html

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Botany Jan 2018 OP
Weed Man Jan 2018 #1
AzureCrest Jan 2018 #21
TheDebbieDee Jan 2018 #40
erronis Jan 2018 #50
cstanleytech Jan 2018 #59
Iahotdog Jan 2018 #108
yallerdawg Jan 2018 #2
Cha Jan 2018 #97
yallerdawg Jan 2018 #102
MountCleaners Jan 2018 #111
efhmc Jan 2018 #3
Botany Jan 2018 #5
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LeftishBrit Jan 2018 #112
DemoTex Jan 2018 #4
Laurian Jan 2018 #8
hexola Jan 2018 #10
B2G Jan 2018 #12
LanternWaste Jan 2018 #105
efhmc Jan 2018 #7
FreepFryer Jan 2018 #9
B2G Jan 2018 #11
FreepFryer Jan 2018 #29
displacedtexan Jan 2018 #110
Augiedog Jan 2018 #13
IronLionZion Jan 2018 #14
oberliner Jan 2018 #15
IronLionZion Jan 2018 #17
oberliner Jan 2018 #18
BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #23
Rhiannon12866 Jan 2018 #117
Runningdawg Jan 2018 #53
oberliner Jan 2018 #60
No Vested Interest Jan 2018 #74
oberliner Jan 2018 #16
forgotmylogin Jan 2018 #19
mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2018 #45
forgotmylogin Jan 2018 #52
mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2018 #62
matt819 Jan 2018 #20
oberliner Jan 2018 #22
Kittycow Jan 2018 #30
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DeminPennswoods Jan 2018 #98
renate Jan 2018 #24
dhill926 Jan 2018 #35
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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:54 AM

1. Hopefully the train with the Republicans suddenly gets locked and air removed.

 

That's how Republicans should be living. Oxygen-free and locked up.


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Response to Weed Man (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:12 PM

21. Bless your heart.

 

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Response to Weed Man (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:34 PM

40. If I were a thinking republican, I might suspect

 

That this could have been a botched assassination attempt!

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Response to TheDebbieDee (Reply #40)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:51 PM

50. No chance of that! (The thinking repuglican.)

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Response to TheDebbieDee (Reply #40)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:01 PM

59. There is no thinking for 99.9% of them and the only thing they

believe is what they are spoon fed.

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Response to TheDebbieDee (Reply #40)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 03:20 PM

108. Is there such a thing?

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:54 AM

2. Random meaningless event...

or karmic divine intervention?

You be the judge...

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Response to Cha (Reply #97)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 03:00 PM

102. Mahalo, Cha!

When they are about to "lock him up," then we'll know the wheel turned full circle!

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 03:50 PM

111. While I hope they're all okay...

...where are the fundies when something like this happens? Will Pat Robertson say it's "God's will"?

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:55 AM

3. Hope they are all okay,

even though I hate their collective ideas and actions.

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Response to efhmc (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:56 AM

6. +1. (n/t)

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Response to efhmc (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 03:52 PM

112. +1

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:56 AM

4. "Trainwreck"

When does the movie come out?

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Response to DemoTex (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:58 AM

8. My thoughts, too.

We knew they were a train wreck well before this.

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Response to DemoTex (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:58 AM

10. Poetic Justice, indeed.

 

Unreal!

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Response to hexola (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:01 PM

12. For the truck driver too?

 

Seems he was pretty badly hurt.

Nice.

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Response to B2G (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 03:05 PM

105. Seems little more than an inference on your part.

 

Seems little more than an inference on your part.

Nice or not...

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:57 AM

7. Seems to have hit a trash truck.

Ahem....

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 11:58 AM

9. On the way to the hotel that house(d/s) the Congress' nuclear bunker, their train hit a truck. Hmmm.

Was it the other way around? Did the train hit the truck or did the truck hit the train?

Lordy, I hope there are tapes

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Response to FreepFryer (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:00 PM

11. Early reports seem to indicate the truck was stuck on the tracks.

 

Seems the most severe injury is the truck driver.

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Response to B2G (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:19 PM

29. Hope all are ok, but call me Netflixed if it all doesnt sound a little too Breaking Bad :)

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Response to FreepFryer (Reply #29)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 03:46 PM

110. Sounds like The Blacklist episode called The Kingmaker.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:03 PM

13. Hope the truck driver is ok.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:04 PM

14. I hope the truck driver is OK

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:04 PM

15. He is dead

 

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Response to oberliner (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:05 PM

17. Where did you see that?

Were there other people injured or dead?

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:07 PM

18. Local NBC station

 

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:14 PM

23. Here is a tweet from a WaPo reporter on the train



TEXT
Ed O'Keefe

@edatpost

BREAKING: Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) tells me 3 passengers aboard the hit truck. 1 is dead. 2 injured. He and other lawmakers helped carry one of the injured truck passengers to an ambulance with local medical personnel.
12:02 PM - Jan 31, 2018

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:38 PM

117. The truck driver died and his passenger was critically injured per MSNBC

Two on the train had head injuries because they fell at the time of the crash, many on the train were standing. Per MSNBC, one congressman and a staffer.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:56 PM

53. Conflicting reports...

CNN - White House press secretary Sarah Sanders confirmed in a statement that there was at least one fatality from the collision, though it was unclear who that was.
[link:https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/31/politics/congress-train-accident/index.html|
A White House official confirmed the incident to CBS. They said they were not aware of any fatalities.
[link:https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/912655/train-crash-lorry-republicans-garbage-truck-charlottesville-virginia-republican-GOD|

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Response to Runningdawg (Reply #53)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:02 PM

60. There are no conflicting reports

 

There is one confirmed fatality.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:39 PM

74. Senator Jeff Flake reported from the scene that the driver survived.

It was a person in the back of the truck who died.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:05 PM

16. One reported fatality

 

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:08 PM

19. Wait, West Virginia?

People were wondering about that huge delivery of opioid painkillers there. Coincidence?

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Response to forgotmylogin (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:43 PM

45. No, Virginia. NT

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #45)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:56 PM

52. Whoops! n/t

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Response to forgotmylogin (Reply #52)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:07 PM

62. The train was headed to West Virginia.

Until June 20, 1963, it was all one big happy family.

Ummm, maybe "happy" isn't the right word.

Thanks for writing.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:11 PM

20. In 3...2...1

Democrats behind this.

George Soros funded it.

Robert Mueller was driving the truck.

Ex-NSA hackers hacked the train.

Deep State NSA hackers hacked the train.

Day after the SOTU a coincidence? I don't think so.

Dems already have candidates lined up for special elections because all GOP congresspeople were supposed to die in the wreck.

Black helicopters were seen in the area. Operations was carried out by rogue special forces under Hillary's command. She and the shadow Democratic government watched the entire incident from Hillary's bunker in Chappaqua.

The truck driver was a known Democratic operative.

The truck driver can't be found and is under the protection of Barack Obama at his home in Washington.

The truck driver was a Salvadoran immigrant and member of MS-13.

Republican congresspeople were replaced by Democratic pod people.

The train was hijacked by Mexican immigrants.



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Response to matt819 (Reply #20)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:13 PM

22. The truck driver was killed

 

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Response to oberliner (Reply #22)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:20 PM

30. That's terrible news..

Hubby's a trucker so I take these to heart a little bit more. Sigh... condolences to the family, although that sounds so empty anymore.

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Response to Kittycow (Reply #30)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:40 PM

42. Very much so

 

I share your sentiments.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #42)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 02:44 PM

98. Terrible for the engineer, too

There is nothing for the train to go except brake hard and slam into whatever's on the tracks ahead. My dad worked for the rr and told me these accidents are very, very hard on the engineers. Some never recover.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:14 PM

24. that's terrible

Things like this should cancel out politics. I'm really sorry to read about this.

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Response to renate (Reply #24)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:27 PM

35. thank you...

some of the posts here are beyond the pale....

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:15 PM

25. Hey, near Charlottesville.

Eastern Railroad Discussion > Republican retreat train incident

Edited: I used to live a few miles from Crozet. Whichever crossing that is, I've been over it and/or to it many times.

More editing:

Train carrying Republican legislators involved in collision in Crozet

The Daily Progress staff reports 27 min ago

A passenger train carrying Republican legislators was involved in a collision outside of Charlottesville Wednesday morning. .... The crash occurred at 11:20 a.m. in Crozet, according to an Amtrak official. The official also said there are no reported injuries to passengers or crew members.

The train reportedly hit a garbage truck stopped at the Marymart Farm Road crossing in Crozet. The engine came partially off the tracks.

An official from the Federal Railroad Administration said, “We are still gathering information and have no additional information to share at this time.”

This story is developing and will be updated with more information.

Send news tips to news@dailyprogress.com, call (434) 978-7264, tweet us @DailyProgress or send us a Facebook message here.

I know that crossing really well.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Marymart+Farm+Rd,+Crozet,+VA+22932/@38.0769449,-78.7202863,765m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89b37e5d0cfd869f:0xd7be7779d5a0229!8m2!3d38.0758296!4d-78.7231759

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #25)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 02:42 PM

96. Same Here

The crossing has lights but no swing down barrier arms.

The Trump Truck driver walked to the ambulance. The 2 guys who ride
on the back and actually empty trash into the hopper were
the ones injured/killed.

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Response to The River (Reply #96)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 02:57 PM

101. Waste collection is one of the most hazardous occupations there is.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:16 PM

26. Wouldnt have happened if Congress had invested in high-speed rail service

All passenger tracks would be elevated, like in modern countries. They’d rather award tax breaks to their cronies than care about the future of our country.

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Response to Squaredeal (Reply #26)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:17 PM

27. You're nuts.

Go ahead and alert.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #27)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:30 PM

37. Thats why the train speed was only 70 mph, to give motorists time to stpp

If it was elevated, as in Europe and Japan, passenger trains could go 200mph. The driver either ignored the stop warning or got stuck on the tracks, endangering everyone on the train, his passengers and himself.

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Response to Squaredeal (Reply #37)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:00 PM

58. Trains don't go 70 mph through Crozet.

My estimate, having actually been there is 25 to 35 for any train I have seen.

If you want to promote rapid transit, have at it, just don't make stuff up.

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Response to Yonnie3 (Reply #58)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:23 PM

67. Agreed. That crossing is at the end of a particularly enjoyable section of road for chasing trains.

Last edited Wed Mar 7, 2018, 10:38 AM - Edit history (5)

On sunny Friday afternoons, I've have my scanner on to listen as trains were made up in the Charlottesville yard. Once the time approached for them to leave, I'd get in my car and head out for 250 West. I could go either of two ways. One was to take JPA south past New Cabell Hall, turn north and go up Emmet Street. Generally, traffic was bad, so I'd cut through the Lewis Mountain neighborhood, turn north on Alderman Road, and make the left on 250 there. Another was to go north on JPA, make the left turn onto University Avenue and go under the C&O bridge and then up past the corner. Either way, I'd wait for the trains out by Farmington. I could hear the trains calling signals as they left Charlottesville, especially that westbound one at Rugby Road, so I knew where they were. I could photograph them several times between Farmington and the big bridge at Mechums River where 250 goes under the bridge and 240 heads up into Crozet. I'd go past the station and wait on the other side of the intersection with 810 for the trains to cross the bridge over 810, the main north-south street through Crozet. The road west from there on the north side of the tracks is Railroad Avenue, or Route 788. The trains are right beside you, and since they are now beginning their climb, they are bogged down. The sound is just great. You can drive right next to them until you approach that crossing, the one where the collision occurred.

You don't EVER try to beat the train to the crossing. You always wait for it. Once it's gone by, you always have time to get past it and photograph it as it approaches Jarman's Gap. Then you can run around it again and see it at Greenwood. And you can drive around him again and set up for him at Afton. After that, he takes off.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:18 PM

28. This is LITERALLY how the GOP is destroying this country!

 

A train carrying a bunch of white supremacist fat cats, living high on the hog off the wage theft of mostly non-white workers, hits a truck driven by a poor victim of republican policies, killing him. This is as EXACT a metaphor one can find. The GOP MUST be destroyed, and ALL its voters must be held to their white supremacist shame!! EVERY ONE OF THEM.

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Response to Fluke a Snooker (Reply #28)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:23 PM

33. You're nuts, II.

Alert on this one as well.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #33)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 02:13 PM

84. Alert? To what?

 

A literal metaphor?

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Response to Fluke a Snooker (Reply #28)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:32 PM

38. Obvious

small burrowing insectivorous mammal with dark velvety fur, a long muzzle, and very small eyes is obvious

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #38)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 02:15 PM

85. Not sure what you mean.

 

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Response to Fluke a Snooker (Reply #85)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 02:37 PM

93. Don't sweat it

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #38)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 02:15 PM

86. Ha!

 

I’ll be stealing that, thanks.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #86)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 02:38 PM

94. Be my guest

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Response to Fluke a Snooker (Reply #28)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 02:37 PM

92. Hey dude,

 

the 60's called, they want their slogans back.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:22 PM

31. They hit a garbage truck.

 

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:22 PM

32. the interesting thing about this story is this..

I have looked at a few sources and not one mentions or shows the kind of train it was.

only the wreckage of the truck.

I can only assume it was some sort of "special" train that can't be seen by us mere mortals.

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Response to Javaman (Reply #32)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:26 PM

34. It was an Amtrak passenger extra.

Last edited Wed Mar 7, 2018, 10:41 AM - Edit history (3)

For decades, both the Republicans and Democrats have taken retreats in January or thereabouts. They often go to the Greenbrier Resort in West Virginia. The Greenbrier is in White Sulphur Springs, West Virginia. White Sulphur Springs is on the Chesapeake and Ohio Railway, now called CSX. It is on an Amtrak route, that of the Cardinal.

The easiest way for members of Congress to get from Washington to White Sulphur Springs is to take a train. Amtrak engineers are qualified on the route, as they run it all the time.

The passenger extra will not be found in the timetable. Train enthusiasts, aka railfans, will be tracking it online and photographing it along the way. See, for example: Passenger Trains > Congressional Greenbrier train hits truck.

Anybody can see the train; just go stand by the tracks. There's nothing secret about it, but since tickets aren't sold to ride it, Amtrak doesn't publicize it.

Added: the line on which the collision occurred is now operated by the Buckingham Branch Railroad.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #34)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:56 PM

51. You mean the same Amtrak that the orange asshole cut funds to?

PRESIDENT TRUMP SOUGHT TO CUT FUNDING TO AMTRAK BEFORE DEADLY DERAILMENT

http://www.newsweek.com/amtrak-derailment-trump-infrastructure-washington-751664

the man is a fucking plague.

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Response to Javaman (Reply #32)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 02:48 PM

99. It was a charter train

The GOP charted the train from Amtrak.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:28 PM

36. Lots of new DUers with low post counts on this thread

Welcome to DU comrades!

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #36)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:33 PM

39. Yeah, really.

This happened on one of my favorite lines for chasing trains. I've lost count of the number of miles I put on my cars pursuing and photographing trains on their way west out of Charlottesville. I've got a four-channel crystal scanner with the right frequency in it - 160.23 MHz - ready to go.

I should note that the line is now technically run by the Buckingham Branch Railroad. When I lived in the outskirts of Crozet and in Charlottesville, the line was the Mountain Subdivision of the Clifton Forge Division of the C&O.

Charlottesville is 600 feet above sea level. The line has to go up and over the Blue Ridge Mountains, at Blue Ridge Tunnel just west of Afton, to get into the Shenandoah Valley. The first city the line goes through in the Shenandoah Valley is Waynesboro, which is 1,305 feet above sea level.



Blue Ridge Tunnel, east portal, old and new

Freight trains headed west from Charlottesville can keep up a pretty good pace until they hit Crozet. That's when the climbing begins.

CSX Piedmont, Washington, North Mountain subdivisions

In December 2004, Buckingham Branch entered into a 20-year lease with CSX Transportation to operate 200 miles (322 km) of track in Virginia on the latter's Piedmont, Washington, North Mountain subdivisions. Each were originally parts of the Virginia Central Railroad's line, and extend from Richmond through Doswell, Orange to Charlottesville, Virginia. From there, the line extends through the Blue Ridge Tunnel complex to Waynesboro, and Staunton to reconnect with CSX lines at Clifton Forge. The line which was the backbone of Collis Huntington's newly completed Chesapeake and Ohio Railroad in the 1870s was supplanted by a lower-grade line along the path of the former James River and Kanawha Canal in the 1880s.

Unlike the original branch in Buckingham County, the new section is leased for a 20-year period. CSX retains overhead trackage rights on the trackage leased to the Buckingham Branch, and continues its same pattern of running empty westbound coal and grain trains over the route, sometimes as many as 8 a day. Buckingham Branch train crews must contend with this fact by continually dodging the CSX westbounds, as well as the Amtrak trains, by going into the various sidings along the lines. Amtrak's Cardinal continues to use the Buckingham Branch line between Orange and Clifton Forge on Wednesdays, Fridays, and Sundays, the only instance where an Amtrak train utilizes a Class III railway line.

This new section of the expanded Buckingham Branch was dispatched by CSX from Jacksonville, Florida for the first two years; now it is dispatched by the BB out of Staunton.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #36)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 02:55 PM

100. Thanks for the welcome.

 

I mainly joined to let DU'ers know that long time member, GGJohn, had passed away and I got interested in this site, although I don't post very much.

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Response to john657 (Reply #100)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 03:01 PM

103. As long as you're not one of Putin's agents

you're probably welcome here

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #103)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 03:04 PM

104. I just checked my wallet and I couldn't find a Putin fan club card,

 

so, no, I'm no agent of Putin's.

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Response to angrychair (Reply #41)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:42 PM

43. Uncalled for. Someone was killed. NT

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Response to angrychair (Reply #41)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:47 PM

46. Unneeded

Those 1st responders put their butts on the line the minute they roll.

BTW I am a very proud uncle of a firefighter/EMT. I will guarantee you
that when she goes out on a run politics is not on her mind.

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Response to Botany (Reply #46)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:02 PM

61. Ill delete my comment...but...

It’s all good and well to say nice things when they are calling immigrants “murderers and rapists and gang killers” and denying women basic human rights and insinuating that transgender people are child molesters.
Not to mention trashing clean air and water regulations and allowing hundreds to die in PR without electricity, food or water because of the color of their skin.
Not to mention the current undermining of the very foundation of our republic by kissing the ass of that racist sexual predator they call a president.

I can’t stand republicans, I don’t wish harm on anybody but you are going to get little sympathy for any misfortune as they would have none for me.

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Response to angrychair (Reply #61)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:27 PM

69. You don't know the politics of the driver that was killed and or those of the 1st responders ...

..... or should that matter. Train and or vehicle accidents happen with either Ds or Rs
in power.

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Response to angrychair (Reply #61)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:32 PM

71. Thanks. I don't like them (I mean the RW, not EMTs) either, but

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when the Western Albermarle Rescue Squad rolled up, they didn't ask how the occupants of the truck had voted in the last election.

I didn't watch the SOTU, as I knew I couldn't take one more minute of ... him. When he came on this morning, I shut off the TV set.

Contributions and voting are the answer.

I'll try to calm down a little too. These are stressful times.

Thank you.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #71)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:41 PM

75. For the record

I’m a first responder (EMT) and I work on wildland wildfire response. I don’t ask about politics at all because it doesn’t matter and I am obviously not taking issue with the driver or passengers or train personnel but congressional republicans are vile, racist, xenophobic hate mongers.
Again, I don’t wish harm on anybody but these people test that position daily.

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Response to angrychair (Reply #75)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:45 PM

76. Well, yeah, that they do.

I can't listen to him. Seriously. I reach for the remote as soon as I hear him.

I live in Virginia. Our electoral votes went for HRC. We elected a D for all three statewide positions (governor, lieutenant governor, and attorney governor) about three months ago. We captured a whole bunch of seats in the House of Delegates.

This is what gets results.

That reminds, me, I need to support that fellow up in one of the three other commonwealths. Conor Lamb; that's the one.

Again, thank you, and I do understand.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #71)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:45 PM

77. Do you know any Charlottesville Fifes

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Response to Maggiemayhem (Reply #77)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:46 PM

78. No. I haven't lived there in decades, and even when I was there, I didn't know any. NT

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Response to angrychair (Reply #41)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:47 PM

47. Some had their little children on the train. Little children.

 

Your comment is vile.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:43 PM

44. Was lack of funding for safe crossroads a contributing factor?

or was this a private line unassociated with public transit or Amtrak?

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #44)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:50 PM

49. The tri-weekly Amtrak train the Cardinal operates over this line.

It's a public crossing. I've been over it many times.

I've got a link to a map in another post. Here it is:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Marymart+Farm+Rd,+Crozet,+VA+22932/@38.0769449,-78.7202863,765m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89b37e5d0cfd869f:0xd7be7779d5a0229!8m2!3d38.0758296!4d-78.7231759

Westbound trains are climbing at this point. Even short trains have to slow for the curve.

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Response to machoneman (Reply #48)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:58 PM

56. Classy.

 

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:57 PM

54. I hope the truck driver is ok nt

 

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:57 PM

55. Details on the line from the C&O's October 25, 1962, employee's timetable:

Crozet is 13.4 miles on the railroad west of Charlottesville.

Clifton Forge Division







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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 12:59 PM

57. I hope the truck is okay.

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #57)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:19 PM

65. Driver is dead

If that matters...

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:09 PM

63. Will Someone Tell the Reporters

that the name of the town where the crash occurred is pronounced Croz-A. It was named after a French civil engineer, Claudius Crozet, who designed a nearby train tunnel. The t is silent.

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Response to The River (Reply #63)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:22 PM

66. I shouted at them several times to no avail. n/t

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Response to Yonnie3 (Reply #66)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:36 PM

73. I Know the Feeling

Sometimes I wish TV allowed 2-way conversation.

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Response to The River (Reply #73)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:59 PM

81. People in Joliet know it well.

 

They don't like Jolly-ette very much.

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Response to The River (Reply #63)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:27 PM

68. The longest in the United States at the time of its construction.

This article is about the original tunnel.

Blue Ridge Tunnel

Overview
Line: Chesapeake and Ohio Railway (C&O) Mountain Subdivision – previously C&O Railroad and Blue Ridge Railroad
Location: Augusta / Nelson counties, near Rockfish Gap, Virginia
Coordinates: 38°02′18″N 78°51′45″WCoordinates: 38°02′18″N 78°51′45″W (Northwest Portal of new tunnel)
Status: Abandoned, replaced by new tunnel currently in operation

Operation
Opened: 1858
Closed: 1944
Owner: Blue Ridge Railroad (1856–1870)
Chesapeake and Ohio Railroad (1870–1878)
Chesapeake and Ohio Railway (1878–1944)

Technical
Line length 4,273 ft (1,302 m)
Track gauge 4 ft 8 1⁄2 in (1,435 mm)
Grade ​70 ft⁄mi (1.326%)

The Blue Ridge Tunnel (also known as the Crozet Tunnel) is a historic railroad tunnel built during the construction of the Blue Ridge Railroad in the 1850s. The tunnel was the westernmost and longest of four tunnels engineered by Claudius Crozet to cross the Blue Ridge Mountains at Rockfish Gap in central Virginia. At 4,237 feet (1,291 m) in length, the tunnel was the longest tunnel in the United States at the time of its completion in 1858. The tunnel was used by the Virginia Central Railroad from its opening to 1868, when the line was reorganized as the Chesapeake and Ohio Railroad (renamed Chesapeake and Ohio Railway in 1878). The Chesapeake and Ohio routed trains through the tunnel until it was abandoned and replaced by a new tunnel in 1944. The new tunnel was named the "Blue Ridge Tunnel" as well, although the original tunnel still remains abandoned nearby. The old Blue Ridge Tunnel has since been named a Historic Civil Engineering Landmark.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:12 PM

64. The Metaphor.... it comes... n/t

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #64)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 09:24 PM

119. Oh, I got the metaphor immediately upon hearing the news.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:29 PM

70. what an apt metaphor for the republican party

no sympathy here

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:34 PM

72. Obligatory link to Operation Lifesaver

https://twitter.com/olinational

Operation Lifesaver
@olinational
Our mission is to end collisions, injuries and deaths at grade crossings and on rail property. Follows, RTs and Favorites do not imply endorsement.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:47 PM

79. Train with trash, truck with trash, crash!

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 01:54 PM

80. I am sad to see people injured

I want the GOP thugs brought to justice, but not this way. This is sad. Let's hope the body count does not increase and those that were injured have a speedy recovery.

Then try the thugs for treason, the way it's s'posed to be done.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 02:07 PM

82. I would have written the article's headline differently:

GOP train wreck leaves death and debris.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 02:10 PM

83. A garbage truck. Very apropos. n/t

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 02:20 PM

87. How will the Evangelicals explain this?

There are no accidents, right? A miracle only one dead. Remember they blame hurricanes and earthquakes on gays.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 02:22 PM

88. Video is up

Accuracy not guaranteed









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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 02:23 PM

89. Per MSNBC, the driver of the truck was killed

And his passenger critically injured. A congressman and a staffer have head injuries. Many on the train were standing at the time of the crash and fell when it hit the truck. They are now being transported the final two hours to W VA by bus. The nearest city to the crash is Charlottesville VA.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 02:24 PM

90. Great comment from another online forum!

"Did everybody see that crash? it was huge. Probably the biggest one ever, that I can tell you. And just one fatality! How great was that? Everywhere I go, I get letters - many, many letters, this I can tell you - of people saying how great our response was (FACT!) Can you just imagine how bad that crash would have been if Lyin' Hillary, who nobody said I could beat but did, she and the crooked Democrats ran probably the worst campaign that's ever been run, that I can tell you, if she was in charge? Nobody knows more about crashes than I do. No one knows more about broken infrastructure than I do, this I can tell you."

Not from me. From username rickythepenguin on fark.com. Funny!

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 02:29 PM

91. Too bad about the fatality....

but it's not every day that you see a train loaded with trash ram into a trash truck.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 02:39 PM

95. Rs better start getting right with God

They all claim to be believers. I think He's been sending them signs to repent and mend their evil ways. First there was the shooting at their baseball practice, He sent two 500 or 1000 year floods to Texas within a few days, now this. How many more signs do they need?

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #95)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:07 PM

113. And right outside of Charlottesville...

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 03:11 PM

106. Maybe drones should be flown ahead of trains to detect obstructions.

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Wed Jan 31, 2018, 03:17 PM

107. Twitter feeds

PHOTO FROM THE ACCIDENT SCENE courtesy of @SenMikeLee:



Nunes leaves train. Says accident was jarring. Tells us he's going by car to GOP retreat.



Seven coaches lined up ready to receive lawmakers family and staff.



He was also asked about the memo - not clear if he answered. Someone also yelled "Nunes, you suck!"



We are moving. Back to Charlottesville where we will transfer to buses. Please keep praying for the truck driver’s loved ones and other’s injured.


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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 03:29 PM

109. I always knew they were a train wreck waiting to happen.

I hope the truck driver is okay. And I must say, when the Republicons wreck they make one hell of a mess...garbage everywhere.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #109)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:08 PM

114. He was pronounced dead at the scene and his passenger critically injured

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #114)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:32 PM

115. Damn! That is so sad. nt

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #115)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 04:35 PM

116. From what I saw on MSNBC, it appears the crossing signal was working

One congressman and a staffer have head injuries because many on the train were standing at the time of the crash. But the truck didn't stand a chance against a train.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Wed Jan 31, 2018, 06:44 PM

118. The bot brigade is flooding Facebook with conspiracies as usual

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