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Botany

(70,447 posts)
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:33 AM Feb 2018

Police identify suspect in death of two Westerville Police officers

Source: AP & NBC Ch 4

WESTERVILLE, OH (WCMH/AP) — The Westerville Division of Police has identified the suspect in the shooting death of two police officers as 30-year-old Quentin Lamar Smith.

Westerville Police Chief Joe Morbitzer said officer Eric Joering, 39, died at the scene and his colleague, Anthony Morelli, 54, died at a local hospital.

Morbitzer said the officers were responding to a “potential domestic situation.” A neighbor who heard the gunfire said it happened at a home where the occupants were “always arguing and fighting.”

“The officers gave their lives in defense of others,” Morbitzer said during a news conference, struggling to keep his emotions in check. He called them “true American heroes.”

Read more: http://nbc4i.com/2018/02/10/police-identify-suspect-in-death-of-two-westerville-police-officers/



Less than 10 miles from my house.


BTW Thanx a lot NRA. A man with domestic abuse reports on him, numerous police runs to
his house, and his wife was trying to get a restraining order on him was able to keep a gun
on him or near him.

Candace Smith told police her husband “has a gun that he carries all of the time, and if it isn’t on him, it is close by.”
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Marthe48

(16,904 posts)
3. Sorry to see more gun deaths
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 11:12 AM
Feb 2018

We used to shop and eat in Westerville after our daughter's dr. appts. Another story that warns us that no place is safe as long as nuts have guns.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
5. "that no place is safe"
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 11:23 AM
Feb 2018

Yesterday from Westerville, OH to rural KY where 5 people died in another mass shooting

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-shooting-kentucky/five-killed-including-gunman-in-shooting-spree-in-kentucky-police-idUSKBN1FV07J


Five killed, including gunman, in shooting spree in Kentucky

******

I have two friends who are Columbus cops and I don't know what I'm going to say to them
later today.

BTW fuck the NRA

Marthe48

(16,904 posts)
7. Hope your friends stay safe
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 12:08 PM
Feb 2018

When the KY shooting happened, I read that so far on 2018, there was a gun killing a day. That was Jan. 28th.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
6. People Control, Not Gun Control
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 11:45 AM
Feb 2018

This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70’s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that weren’t secured are out of control in our society. As such, here’s what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. I’m not debating the legal language, I just think it’s the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because it’s clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learner’s license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.

Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a driver’s license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.

For those who want to argue legality, please reference: The Second Amendment: A Biography by Michael Waldman

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
8. I had to excuse myself from the sales floor at work
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 12:24 PM
Feb 2018

Officer Morelli in particular seemed to be very popular around here. His name was familiar to me, and my mom was familiar with him from the library. People bought up all our blue lightbulbs already, and of the numerous people who have been coming in and asking about them, most have had some sort of story about him, or had kids that played with his kids, and so on. Had me in tears already after a couple hours of hearing all this. Just stocking and selling lightbulbs all moring has inadvertently turned me into a soundingboard for a lot of grieving people from that community.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
11. Almost erupted at a co-worker a minute ago too
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 03:25 PM
Feb 2018

Wanted to blame President Obama for this. This co-worker is a great guy in pretty much every other aspect of his life, but Fox News and his deplorable pastor have their hooks in way deep.

melm00se

(4,986 posts)
12. according to one news report
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 06:30 PM
Feb 2018

Quentin Lamar Smith is a felon and by state and federal law was prohibited from owning a firearm but don't let that get in the way of blaming the gun or the NRA.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
14. I live on the Columbus/Westerville border. Westerville is not a place you expect to hear of this.
Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:10 PM
Feb 2018
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