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brooklynite

(93,873 posts)
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 05:55 PM Feb 2018

Florida House votes down motion to take up weapons ban with Douglas students present

Source: WPLG



TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - On their first full day lobbying Florida lawmakers in Tallahassee to change the state's gun laws, students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School quickly learned change does not happen very fast in government, if at all.

With Douglas students in the gallery Tuesday, the Florida House voted down a motion to take up a ban on assault weapons such as the AR-15 used by Nikolas Cruz when he killed 17 people at the school on Valentine's Day.

The final motion vote was 36-71.

Democratic Rep. Kionne McGhee asked for a procedural move that would have allowed it to consider the bill to ban assault rifles and large capacity magazines. The bill had been assigned to three committees but was not scheduled for a hearing. The committees won't meet again before the legislative session ends March 9.

Read more: https://www.local10.com/news/parkland-school-shooting/florida-house-votes-down-motion-to-take-up-weapons-ban-with-douglas-students-present



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Florida House votes down motion to take up weapons ban with Douglas students present (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2018 OP
More GOP BS world wide wally Feb 2018 #1
Florida GOP to MSDHS survivors: "Suck it, snowflakes." Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2018 #2
Too kind. More like " DIE , Motherfuckers! " elehhhhna Feb 2018 #11
There's no daylight between Republicans, the NRA, and Putin. Girard442 Feb 2018 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #28
+1 byronius Feb 2018 #38
Assholes turbinetree Feb 2018 #4
Harsh Reality For Students To Learn - Your Lives Are Worthless SoCalMusicLover Feb 2018 #5
Politicians only care about MONEY. The NRA has it; high school kids don't. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2018 #13
We should take a leaf from Australia's book. Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #22
Shitholes. They need to answer what legislation they will pass to guarantee students are safe iluvtennis Feb 2018 #6
Oh, that's an easy one. Arm teachers, hires 'security guards." pangaia Feb 2018 #33
Kevlar for Kindergartners! Virtual Burlesque Feb 2018 #43
Too much gun money and influence HopeAgain Feb 2018 #7
Grief doesn't talk. Passion doesn't talk. MONEY TALKS. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2018 #8
This will morph into a voter registration movement I hope, elehhhhna Feb 2018 #17
article has photos Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #9
I doubt it would've mattered. Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #24
They will probably get more guns in schools hibbing Feb 2018 #10
Won't help today but may make everyone feel better.... noneof_theabove Feb 2018 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author padfun Feb 2018 #32
Guns in the classrooms ... Virtual Burlesque Feb 2018 #44
Such angelic faces, Rennaisance-like OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #14
This will teach the kids to toughen up and stick to it. truthisfreedom Feb 2018 #15
These kids are going to drive a stake into the heart of the establishment GOP & NRA... targetpractice Feb 2018 #16
Yes they are Liberalhammer Feb 2018 #19
agree 100% bluestarone Feb 2018 #30
New FL voting bloc was just given the middle finger djacq Feb 2018 #18
The gop sided with the murders and future murders rockfordfile Feb 2018 #20
I hope they mark down all 71 who voted against even considering hearing arguments. LiberalLovinLug Feb 2018 #21
Wow, how incredibly callous not to mention stupid DeminPennswoods Feb 2018 #23
As was posted yesterday... Fritz Walter Feb 2018 #25
NOT shocked ... LenaBaby61 Feb 2018 #26
#BoycottFlorida Ccarmona Feb 2018 #27
That's what I wrote in a post yesterday. BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #34
Those FL Reps are just showing what they are grumpyduck Feb 2018 #29
Too young to vote and not fetuses Freddie Feb 2018 #31
How can anyone be or vote republican today?!?! The party is anti people bobbieinok Feb 2018 #35
If there was ever any doubt or hope that FL lawmakers JDC Feb 2018 #36
They need to do it at the local level. Starting with a state republican house is worthless. 33taw Feb 2018 #37
Sad to say this, Mr.Bill Feb 2018 #39
Go get em, kids! Align with Moms, keep saying who got how much NRA money and vote 'em out! mpcamb Feb 2018 #40
They are going to take up that "deadly" porn instead Motley13 Feb 2018 #41
The main reason for Fla. gun Lwas True Blue American Feb 2018 #42

Response to Girard442 (Reply #3)

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
5. Harsh Reality For Students To Learn - Your Lives Are Worthless
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 06:03 PM
Feb 2018

I applaud the efforts of these students in trying to fight the good fight. But they are about to realize, that just because they're vocal, fired up, and being supported by those in favor of gun control, does not mean any change is going to happen. Being right is not good enough.

The politicians don't care about a brain damaged Gabby Giffords, they don't care about slaughtered kindergarten children, or Batman movie watchers, or Pulse Nightclub dancers.....or a bunch of high school students who just witnessed 17 of their friends and teachers lying in pools of blood.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,410 posts)
13. Politicians only care about MONEY. The NRA has it; high school kids don't.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 06:10 PM
Feb 2018

So, does anyone want to know why the current system of governance yields less than a voting percentage of 50%? Does anyone understand why the US public is generally apathetic about the political process? Does anyone understand HOW Trumpy got to be president?

All of your answers are embedded in the story of a busload full of kids going to Tallahassee to demand legislation against gun violence.

Jedi Guy

(3,171 posts)
22. We should take a leaf from Australia's book.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 07:13 PM
Feb 2018

Voting is mandatory, and Election Day is a national holiday. It's infuriating when people piss and moan about the government, but when you ask them who they voted for, they either stare at you blankly or hurriedly try to change the subject.

iluvtennis

(19,758 posts)
6. Shitholes. They need to answer what legislation they will pass to guarantee students are safe
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 06:03 PM
Feb 2018

on campus. If not, parents need to do a class action lawsuit against the legislature.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
33. Oh, that's an easy one. Arm teachers, hires 'security guards."
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:09 PM
Feb 2018

IN FACT arm the students. When they arrive at school, everyone gets a gun.... and a .Middle Ages shield.

Virtual Burlesque

(132 posts)
43. Kevlar for Kindergartners!
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 09:06 PM
Feb 2018

What the 'March For Our Lives' students should do now is parcel out contingents of students to attend open events and town hall meetings to embarrass the 71 Florida House reps who voted down the motion. Try to be there every time they show their faces to their constituents.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
7. Too much gun money and influence
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 06:03 PM
Feb 2018

I guess I will never understand this bizarre American obsession with guns.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,410 posts)
8. Grief doesn't talk. Passion doesn't talk. MONEY TALKS.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 06:06 PM
Feb 2018

Therefore, pay to play. No, voting doesn't count. Political pressure doesn't count. No one will listen.

But if you've got millions to toss around, you're a player. And THEN you count.

I hate this system. For 50 years I've hated the system that demands money instead of votes. The high school kids at Parkland are right. They're morally right, they're rationally right, and they're spiritually right. That righteousness also means that, under their current status, they are nobodies. Politicians don't want them around. They're disturbing, because they speak truth to power. So they need to be sent home, because those in power don't want to deal with the truth of gun violence. That's because they get money from the NRA. And the NRA tells them to shut up. So they do.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
17. This will morph into a voter registration movement I hope,
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 06:17 PM
Feb 2018

Since they're currently talking to a wall.

Found Donald s wall! It separates Congress from the will of the people.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,041 posts)
9. article has photos
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 06:06 PM
Feb 2018

The article has photos of the 17.
The Florida House should have been required to look at those before voting.

Jedi Guy

(3,171 posts)
24. I doubt it would've mattered.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 07:17 PM
Feb 2018

Any twinges of conscience can be assuaged with a quick application of NRA money. If conscience was part of the equation, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

hibbing

(10,076 posts)
10. They will probably get more guns in schools
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 06:08 PM
Feb 2018

Teachers having guns in every classroom, have seen that argument made a lot since this latest slaughter.


Peace

noneof_theabove

(410 posts)
12. Won't help today but may make everyone feel better....
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 06:09 PM
Feb 2018

Send your 3 congress-critters [2 Senator and 1 House in DC and each state legislature is different]
a nice letter that you have enclosed a check for re-election....yada....yada...yada.

Then download my congress-zero-dollars-check.jpg [below], print in color, cut out and put with letter $0.51 cents well spent.

link [ligit link and verified safe jpg file from imgbb.com ]:
[link:https://ibb.co/d91TrS]

If you don't have a stamp then the laugh and smile will be worth it.

Response to noneof_theabove (Reply #12)

Virtual Burlesque

(132 posts)
44. Guns in the classrooms ...
Sun Feb 25, 2018, 09:16 PM
Feb 2018

... will just add a sprinkling of accidental shootings to the slaughter that is already taking place on purpose.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
14. Such angelic faces, Rennaisance-like
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 06:12 PM
Feb 2018

These are our future Legislators. They have faced death, I doubt old men legislators make them shake in their young, righteous boots.

Loud works. Raise voices in protest.

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
16. These kids are going to drive a stake into the heart of the establishment GOP & NRA...
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 06:15 PM
Feb 2018

Have you ever watched how fast a young'n can text on a iPhone?

I truly believe these grieving young people will change all of our lives for the better.

I have hope and trust in them.

 

Liberalhammer

(576 posts)
19. Yes they are
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 06:36 PM
Feb 2018

The old cranky Republican Nazis have not felt the brunt of social media until this.
They will rue this day.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,154 posts)
21. I hope they mark down all 71 who voted against even considering hearing arguments.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 07:05 PM
Feb 2018

And publicize their vote when they come up for re-election.

LenaBaby61

(6,965 posts)
26. NOT shocked ...
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 07:31 PM
Feb 2018
Thuglicans play for KEEPS, and they'll play past DIRTY to WIN.

MOST don't care about the quality of life outside of their OWN lives. Those kids gotta grow a steel of spine to get down and dirty in the sludge put that is the GOP if they're gonna make a dent in the POWER that the NRA has over them (GOP). These kids are not going to back off or shut up, so there's that thankfully

But as it stands now, I don't see anything being done in a legislative way being done about gun violence anytime soon. thuglicans have all of the power and these kids can't vote .... YET. But then again even if they do vote, will their votes be counted fairly by thuglicans? We know that something always goes wrong down there in Florida as it relates to voting where Democrats are concerned, and thuglicans control every apparatus of voting from the collecting and tallying of votes there. Plus, thuglicans NOW have the help of their friends the ruskies (Who this DOJ won't stop from meddling in our 2018 mid-terms) if they can't do all of the things they wanted to do to get rid of Democratic votes.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
27. #BoycottFlorida
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 07:34 PM
Feb 2018

It’s time to hit the State in its wallet until its Repugnant Repugs are voted out of office.

BigmanPigman

(51,432 posts)
34. That's what I wrote in a post yesterday.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:12 PM
Feb 2018

FL depends on tourist dollars...if their govt reps' wallets do the talking then hit them there! Tourist dollars or NRA dollars??? They can decide. I wouldn't step foot into that state as well as about 35 others who are red. I am stubborn and I have principles.

JDC

(10,084 posts)
36. If there was ever any doubt or hope that FL lawmakers
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:21 PM
Feb 2018

Had any form of conscience, it has just been officially confirmed. They do not.

Florida voters take head.

33taw

(2,420 posts)
37. They need to do it at the local level. Starting with a state republican house is worthless.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:28 PM
Feb 2018

They will have more success with their local community or county and working outward.

Mr.Bill

(24,104 posts)
39. Sad to say this,
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:36 PM
Feb 2018

but sorry, kids. You didn't bring cash with you. Hopefully learning this will only embolden them.

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