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StevieM

(10,500 posts)
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 09:45 PM Feb 2018

No Jail For Texas Teen Who Lied About Being Raped By 3 Black Men

Source: Huffington Post

~snip~

A North Texas teenager who falsely claimed she was kidnapped and raped by three black men last March will likely serve no jail time.

On Thursday, 19-year-old Breana Harmon of Pottsboro pleaded guilty to four felony charges of tampering with physical evidence and government documents in relation to false reports of kidnapping and sexual assault.

“She’s very remorseful for what she did and what she said, and that’s why she decided to plead guilty,” Harmon’s attorney Bob Jarvis told the Sherman Herald Democrat. No suspects were ever identified or arrested in the case.

Harmon will be sentenced March 20. Her plea deal has two possible punishments: regular probation or deferred adjudication, which often involves fulfilling a requirement, such as treatment or community service. Neither involves jail time.

Read more: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/breana-harmon-false-rape-jail_us_5a958207e4b03a8f3a22f390?ncid=edlinkushpmg00000313

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No Jail For Texas Teen Who Lied About Being Raped By 3 Black Men (Original Post) StevieM Feb 2018 OP
There should have been jail time. What she did is unacceptable. iluvtennis Feb 2018 #1
Unless a person is violent it is a waste of resources to jail them. KWR65 Feb 2018 #2
she could have gotten a black man killed dsc Feb 2018 #4
Could of isn't violent. KWR65 Feb 2018 #5
Your comments Proud liberal 80 Feb 2018 #9
"could of" Liberalagogo Feb 2018 #19
Yeah, and it was right there in the post you were responding to; spelled out for you. Aristus Mar 2018 #37
Ditto iluvtennis Feb 2018 #11
Agreed Sherman A1 Feb 2018 #6
Hard labor GWC58 Mar 2018 #29
I'd argue for jail, but I can see why you wouldn't. christx30 Feb 2018 #20
If a person has done something wrong and pays a price- in her case probation and it remains on her Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #32
I've seen too many news stories christx30 Mar 2018 #35
I agree with you about what she did...and maybe jail should be included...not sure. I am loath to Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #39
If they identified someone, and he was convicted, christx30 Mar 2018 #40
You would be wise to do so. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #41
What's? So the taxpayers can pay for her? Hell no, give her probation though for 10 to 20 years. cstanleytech Feb 2018 #18
I'd Start A Tad Harsher ProfessorGAC Mar 2018 #44
She is very remorseful. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #3
Something very similar happened in NY a while back Dream Girl Feb 2018 #7
In this particular case there wasn't anything to film. The whole thing was made up. LisaL Feb 2018 #13
And the damage she did to the AA community irisblue Feb 2018 #8
Community service....to the community she accused Freethinker65 Feb 2018 #10
A good idea. McCamy Taylor Mar 2018 #26
Long as she keeps the four felony charges on her record - I don't agree with deferred adjudication NBachers Feb 2018 #12
She should be sued in civil court for damages by the 3 innocent men. kimbutgar Feb 2018 #14
There were no identified men. nt Phoenix61 Feb 2018 #15
From what I've read ornotna Feb 2018 #16
Very odd way to waste everyone's time, while trying to attack a whole lot of people. Judi Lynn Feb 2018 #17
As a Black male Dan Mar 2018 #21
This grumpy old White male safeinOhio Mar 2018 #25
As a white male I'm stating she needs some real punishment for this.... Bengus81 Mar 2018 #28
I can not even imagine... Docreed2003 Mar 2018 #30
+1000 Blue_Tires Mar 2018 #43
I feel this way. When she made this accusation, montana_hazeleyes Mar 2018 #22
Trump thinks there still needs to be 3 black guys who need to be put to death for this JI7 Mar 2018 #23
3 to 6 months at minimum bucolic_frolic Mar 2018 #24
Make her do a segment for local TV and apologize about how she LIED and used blacks to jin up the BS Bengus81 Mar 2018 #27
Okay, but make it 10 years of GWC58 Mar 2018 #31
I agree that she needs to be punished...but no medication if she's sick? Really? StevieM Mar 2018 #38
If its really serious then, sure GWC58 Mar 2018 #42
Sentence her to marry Martin Shkreli. malthaussen Mar 2018 #33
What would they have done if an innocent person had been arrested? moriah Mar 2018 #34
Whiteness at work... Blue_Tires Mar 2018 #36
BS Judge sarcasmo Mar 2018 #45

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
9. Your comments
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 10:04 PM
Feb 2018

Sound like something that I would read from a racist apologist in the comments section of an article

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
37. Yeah, and it was right there in the post you were responding to; spelled out for you.
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 12:01 PM
Mar 2018

'Could have...'



Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
6. Agreed
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 09:57 PM
Feb 2018

I think for the most part you are correct, there may be an exception here or there, but generally it is a waste of resources. I think a nice community service position involving real physical work would be much more beneficial to all.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
20. I'd argue for jail, but I can see why you wouldn't.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 11:46 PM
Feb 2018

But I'd like to see her on some kind of list for the rest of her life. Like "take rape accusations from this woman with a grain of salt" list.
"I was raped by so-and-so." "Sure. But I'm going to need a HELL of a lot more than just your word before I even question this guy or investigate this in anyway. Like notarized statements from 6 witnesses, and the word of God himself."
Or, hell, the sex offenders list.

Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
32. If a person has done something wrong and pays a price- in her case probation and it remains on her
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 11:11 AM
Mar 2018

record- I have real problems with the punish them forever meme. If you are not going to allow rehabilitation what is the point? I would imagine if those who committed crimes..(.not all but some )were given a chance, many would turn their lives around. My husband works in manufacturing. His job hires ex-cons. They are extremely grateful for the opportunity to turn their lives around and support their families. Many become loyal workers and give back to the company. Everyone (at least most) deserves a second chance. I am not talking about violent criminals which is a little problematic. In Europe after a certain number of years, non-violent crimes are stricken from a person's record. This person did a horrible thing...and it could have caused the deaths of innocent men of color so I have mixed feelings about her sentence or lack there of...

christx30

(6,241 posts)
35. I've seen too many news stories
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 11:54 AM
Mar 2018

about people spending 20+ years in prison because someone lied. Some prosecutors don't give a rip about the truth or justice. They want a win. And her actions have the potential to put a tiny doubt into the minds of anyone that takes a rape report. "Is this real? Or is this like that one woman?"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Banks_(American_football)
What would those guys get if they existed, and the crime was real? Sentence her to that penalty. Make it heard loudly and clearly from one ocean to the other. If you falsely accuse someone of a crime, you will receive the punishment they would receive.

Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
39. I agree with you about what she did...and maybe jail should be included...not sure. I am loath to
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 03:18 PM
Mar 2018

lock up non-violent offenders but the point is after the punishment is meted out and the debt to society is paid...are we going to make the person pay for their entire life?

christx30

(6,241 posts)
40. If they identified someone, and he was convicted,
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 06:22 PM
Mar 2018

he would have paid for the rest of his life. 20+ years in prison, difficulty getting a job afterwards.
But if not an actual penalty, just a "society doesn't trust you anymore" thing. Put information about her everywhere, let everyone know she did this. Make it be the first link that comes up any time someone puts her name into Google. Background checks for colleges and jobs. Any potential boyfriend that googles her before asking her out. I know if I encountered a woman that I knew of that had done something like this, I would steer clear of her.

ProfessorGAC

(64,990 posts)
44. I'd Start A Tad Harsher
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 11:53 AM
Mar 2018

I like your idea, but ankle monitor and house arrest for a year or so. Then the probation. Prison does seem too much and too expensive, but making someone stay in the house for a year would be some punishment more than just probation. (Not that long term probation would be a cakewalk.)

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
7. Something very similar happened in NY a while back
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 10:00 PM
Feb 2018

If one of the guys had not filmed the encounter o his phone, they would still be in prison. She later admitted it was a lie, she just regretted being with three black guys I guess. Women usually don’t lie about rape but on rare occasions they do

NBachers

(17,098 posts)
12. Long as she keeps the four felony charges on her record - I don't agree with deferred adjudication
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 10:12 PM
Feb 2018

in this case.

ornotna

(10,798 posts)
16. From what I've read
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 10:34 PM
Feb 2018

And I could be wrong. I don't think there was anyone picked up as suspects. She still needs to apologize to the AA community.

Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
17. Very odd way to waste everyone's time, while trying to attack a whole lot of people.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 10:43 PM
Feb 2018

Why there isn't a sensible penalty for this is a dirty crime, itself.





safeinOhio

(32,669 posts)
25. This grumpy old White male
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 09:08 AM
Mar 2018

finds this offensive and sick.

She should be the poster child for White Privilege.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
28. As a white male I'm stating she needs some real punishment for this....
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 09:20 AM
Mar 2018

Not this good ole' boy Texas BS and all is forgotten.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
30. I can not even imagine...
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 09:32 AM
Mar 2018

This whole story is sick and her motivation to tear down and attack an entire community is sick, and that’s being kind...

montana_hazeleyes

(3,424 posts)
22. I feel this way. When she made this accusation,
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 01:16 AM
Mar 2018

every black man in America was made suspect. Even though no one was named, it still put all black men in more danger than they already are.

This pisses me off to no end!

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
24. 3 to 6 months at minimum
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 08:28 AM
Mar 2018

There is a difference between remorse, being sorry, and deeply understanding the reasons, motivations, and implications of such criminal behavior. Light sentences reward the antisocial personality. This is an abomination.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
27. Make her do a segment for local TV and apologize about how she LIED and used blacks to jin up the BS
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 09:18 AM
Mar 2018

Give her at least 10 years Probation and play that apology at prime time. There needs to be some kind of punishment here,not just a "I'm remorseful" now I'll see you later,time to partyyyyyy.

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
31. Okay, but make it 10 years of
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 09:40 AM
Mar 2018

Supervised probation. That includes seeing a probation officer once a week, no alcohol, no drugs, prescription, or otherwise. And, this might sound cruel, if she has some pain that might call for Narcotics the judge should say “nope! There are other effective ways, that don’t require narcotics, for relief. Take some aspirin and tough it out.” Cruel? Maybe. Unusual? I don’t think so.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
38. I agree that she needs to be punished...but no medication if she's sick? Really?
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 12:10 PM
Mar 2018

What if her appendix has to come out? Or if she needs chemotherapy?

You are joking here, right?

malthaussen

(17,184 posts)
33. Sentence her to marry Martin Shkreli.
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 11:29 AM
Mar 2018

He's remorseful, too, but assures us he's a good person anyway. Made for each other.

-- Mal

moriah

(8,311 posts)
34. What would they have done if an innocent person had been arrested?
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 11:47 AM
Mar 2018

I think she needs either jail or psychiatric commitment.

Even if police realized she was lying fast, she contributed to the climate that paints people who aren't perfectly pale as more likely to commit a crime.

And she could have been responsible for egging people on to either take freedom from innocents through "legal" avenues, or vigilante violence.

Regardless of the fact this ended far better than it could have, she should be punished for it more than a slap on the wrist. Her lies could have made those people run outside, find the nearest black guy, and if she says she only claimed rape by nodding yes to the question, pretty damn sure she'd have nodded that the random dude was involved.

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