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demmiblue

(36,816 posts)
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 07:33 AM Mar 2018

Trump tweets: 'Trade wars are good, and easy to win'

Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A day after announcing steep tariffs on imports of steel and aluminum, U.S. President Donald Trump tweeted on Friday that“trade wars are good, and easy to win”.

Trump said on Thursday that the United States would apply duties of 25 percent on imported steel and 10 percent on aluminum to protect U.S. producers, although White House officials later said some details still needed to be ironed out.

“When a country (USA) is losing many billions of dollars on trade with virtually every country it does business with, trade wars are good, and easy to win,” Trump’s tweet read.“Example, when we are down $100 billion with a certain country and they get cute, don’t trade anymore-we win big. It’s easy!”

Fears of an escalating trade war triggered selloffs on Wall Street and in Asia and Europe, hitting the share prices of steelmakers and manufacturers supplying U.S. markets particularly hard.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-trump/trump-tweets-trade-wars-are-good-and-easy-to-win-idUSKCN1GE1E9?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5a9935c304d3014498e7867b&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter




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Trump tweets: 'Trade wars are good, and easy to win' (Original Post) demmiblue Mar 2018 OP
Does he never sleep? Freedomofspeech Mar 2018 #1
A brain-dead-stupid dick! joshdawg Mar 2018 #4
Well said...so stupid he doesn't know he is stupid. Stuart G Mar 2018 #16
Too doped up to sleep. paleotn Mar 2018 #6
It's amazing Hav Mar 2018 #2
I guess that is an imperial "we" in the tweet Yonnie3 Mar 2018 #3
Cute and Easy bucolic_frolic Mar 2018 #5
Easy as the Healthcare bill. forgotmylogin Mar 2018 #26
Big problem - a "certain country" holds most of our debt. Vinca Mar 2018 #7
He is on record saying imbecillically he might make the US pay 70 cents on the dollar of debt. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2018 #14
He always stiffed his contractors by paying only part of what he owed, so he figures that's tblue37 Mar 2018 #18
Not necessarily "most" of the debt, about 5% of it. OnlinePoker Mar 2018 #22
So "winning" is increasing the manufacturing cost paleotn Mar 2018 #8
Dingle Don w his degree in economics seems to think the Great Depression was "winning". Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2018 #15
What A Moron ProfessorGAC Mar 2018 #9
it's all black and white to him with simple answers to every question rurallib Mar 2018 #10
Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #11
How will the American worker like paying more for beer, cars and... displacedtexan Mar 2018 #21
Your choice TranssexualKaren Mar 2018 #25
Wait, what?!? eggplant Mar 2018 #23
Yes, but..... TranssexualKaren Mar 2018 #24
The Orange Clown wants to gamble with our economy djacq Mar 2018 #12
He did it just because he could. He is easily bored, likes to stir things up and show off. Nitram Mar 2018 #13
How long before he says, "Who knew trade policy was so complicated?" nt tblue37 Mar 2018 #17
Fucking moron dalton99a Mar 2018 #19
Get ready for millions more to apply for SNAP, unemployment, and sinkingfeeling Mar 2018 #20
What can one expect from a meth-head president? Rollo Mar 2018 #27
All those years of saying "I've got a 6-inch cock" helped trump say that. (nt) Paladin Mar 2018 #28

Hav

(5,969 posts)
2. It's amazing
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 07:48 AM
Mar 2018

It's amazing that he can portray himself as a business genius, yet he still hasn't understood what a trade deficit is and apparently no one has told him yet. Either that or he thinks his followers are really dumb.

Yonnie3

(17,419 posts)
3. I guess that is an imperial "we" in the tweet
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 07:52 AM
Mar 2018
We, meaning him, will "win"; We, the US citizens and residents will lose. He has made a narrow definition of win.

Any one remember Nixon issuing an executive order freezing wages and prices? I recall the gasoline rationing very well. Although it wasn't about trade (it was about inflation) it is akin to this tariff. They think, if they don't like the data, make a rule directly affecting it rather than address the underlying issues.

bucolic_frolic

(43,027 posts)
5. Cute and Easy
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 07:57 AM
Mar 2018

Trump's Simpleton Mind at work

A stable genius sees the world as cute and easy?

Really really demented and very uninformed

forgotmylogin

(7,519 posts)
26. Easy as the Healthcare bill.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 11:29 AM
Mar 2018

Which he was planning to accomplish the first day, nay, probably the first hour of his Presidency.

SEVERAL MONTHS LATER

"Now, I have to tell you, it's an unbelievably complex subject," he added. "Nobody knew health care could be so complicated." --Donald J. Trump

Nobody. Except for every single politician previously in the history of healthcare who came before him.

Vinca

(50,236 posts)
7. Big problem - a "certain country" holds most of our debt.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 08:31 AM
Mar 2018

I imagine Don is planning to have us declare bankruptcy.

tblue37

(65,212 posts)
18. He always stiffed his contractors by paying only part of what he owed, so he figures that's
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 09:54 AM
Mar 2018

the right way to handle owing money.

OnlinePoker

(5,716 posts)
22. Not necessarily "most" of the debt, about 5% of it.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 10:50 AM
Mar 2018

Total debt is near $21 Trillion, China holds $1.18 Trillion and $1.06 Trillion.

http://ticdata.treasury.gov/Publish/mfh.txt

By contrast, Social Security alone (as of 2016) holds $2.8 Trillion. Here's a good breakdown on it. Of particular note is this section "...if you add up the debt held by Social Security and all the retirement and pension funds, nearly half of the U.S. Treasury debt is held in trust for your retirement. If the United States defaults on its debt, foreign investors would be angry, but current and future retirees would be hurt the most."

https://www.thebalance.com/who-owns-the-u-s-national-debt-3306124


paleotn

(17,876 posts)
8. So "winning" is increasing the manufacturing cost
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 08:41 AM
Mar 2018

...for US producers of a wide range of products that include steel and aluminum components, making domestic manufacturing even less competitive globally. Of course, that's not counting retaliation by our trading partners, so higher costs for steel and aluminum components may be a mute point.

If the "tariff" only applies to unfinished steel, companies may be incentivized to shift additional manufacturing overseas, taking advantage of now, artificially low component costs and ship the finished goods to the US, to be sold by minimum wage retail staff. More "winning!"

Free trade, fair trade, protectionist, no matter our ideology, the economy is what it is. And the things we buy will now cost more thanks to a drugged up, dumb ass, with serious self esteem issues.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,938 posts)
15. Dingle Don w his degree in economics seems to think the Great Depression was "winning".
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 09:43 AM
Mar 2018

The Depression was caused in large part by the Smoot-Hawley Act which turned a stock market decline into a hole the country had great difficulty getting out of. It imposed duties and tariffs on 20,000 goods and international trade shriveled drastically as a result.

ProfessorGAC

(64,827 posts)
9. What A Moron
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 08:48 AM
Mar 2018

This is the whole problem with everything that has gone on in the last 18 months.

A campaign based upon "we used to be good, but now we suck" (how patriotic) is now followed up by "we still suck and the only way we can win is by starting a fight".

Somehow, while maintaining status as the world's most powerful economy we suck so bad we need a trade war?

But, the lapdogs will eat it up because they're too dumb to remotely grasp the consequences.

rurallib

(62,373 posts)
10. it's all black and white to him with simple answers to every question
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 08:55 AM
Mar 2018

Most of the answers are supplied by presidential advisors Sean Hannity, Steve Doocey and Brian Kilmeade.

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
21. How will the American worker like paying more for beer, cars and...
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 10:37 AM
Mar 2018

...baseball bats? Trump's stupidity doesn't exactly fall into the category of "standing up for the American worker," in my opinion.

TranssexualKaren

(364 posts)
25. Your choice
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 11:13 AM
Mar 2018

A terrible leader who does the right thing for the wrong reasons or a good leader who does the wrong thing for the right reasons (Obama’s TPP)

TranssexualKaren

(364 posts)
24. Yes, but.....
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 11:10 AM
Mar 2018

Of course he doesn’t care about American workers, but perhaps the current meltdown in the White House (the only plausible explanation for this) can offer a chance at some more rational trade policies if we’re smart enough to see past our hatred for Trump.

Nitram

(22,755 posts)
13. He did it just because he could. He is easily bored, likes to stir things up and show off.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 09:31 AM
Mar 2018

Makes no difference what the issue is or what the probably outcome will be. He thrives on the attention. "Will he or won't he? Oh, my god! He did!" He can't be happy about how it affected the stock market. Just a big naked blob of ID.

dalton99a

(81,386 posts)
19. Fucking moron
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 10:26 AM
Mar 2018
Professor Kelley told me 100 times over three decades that “Donald Trump was the dumbest goddam student I ever had.” I remember his emphasis and inflection — it went like this: “Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had.” Kelley told me this after Trump had become a celebrity, but long before he was considered a political figure. Kelley often referred to Trump’s arrogance when he told the story that Trump came to Wharton thinking he already knew everything.

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/former-wharton-professor-trump-was-dumbest-gddam-student-i-ever-had

sinkingfeeling

(51,436 posts)
20. Get ready for millions more to apply for SNAP, unemployment, and
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 10:28 AM
Mar 2018

stock broker suicides as 45* crashes the humming economy.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
27. What can one expect from a meth-head president?
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 12:21 PM
Mar 2018

The Bloatard has tweaked a path to national destruction.

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
28. All those years of saying "I've got a 6-inch cock" helped trump say that. (nt)
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 12:47 PM
Mar 2018

Trade wars are easy? In what universe?

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