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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 11:55 AM Mar 2018

Pruitt tapes revealed: Evolution's a 'theory,' 'majority' religions under attack

Source: Politico




Radio archives from Oklahoma also show him warning of ‘judicial monarchy’ and advocating constitutional amendments to ban abortion and gay marriage.

By EMILY HOLDEN and ALEX GUILLÉN 03/02/2018 05:00 AM EST

Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt dismissed evolution as an unproven theory, lamented that “minority religions” were pushing Christianity out of “the public square” and advocated amending the Constitution to ban abortion, prohibit same-sex marriage and protect the Pledge of Allegiance and the Ten Commandments, according to a newly unearthed series of Oklahoma talk radio shows from 2005.

Pruitt, who at the time was a state senator, also described the Second Amendment as divinely granted and condemned federal judges as a “judicial monarchy” that is “the most grievous threat that we have today." And he did not object when the program’s host described Islam as “not so much a religion as it is a terrorist organization in many instances.”

The six hours of civics class-style conversations on Tulsa-based KFAQ-AM were recently rediscovered by a firm researching Pruitt’s past remarks, which provided them to POLITICO on condition of anonymity so as not to identify its client. They reveal Pruitt's unfiltered views on a variety of political and social issues, more than a decade before the ambitious Oklahoman would lead President Donald Trump’s EPA.

The views he states, in discussions peppered with references to inalienable rights and the faith of the nation's founders, are in line with those of millions of other conservative, devout Christians. But they also show stances that at times are at odds with the broader American mainstream, and in some cases with accepted scientific findings — an issue that has more recently come up with his skepticism about the science behind climate change.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/02/scott-pruitt-epa-evolution-theory-abortion-gay-marriage-433284

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Pruitt tapes revealed: Evolution's a 'theory,' 'majority' religions under attack (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2018 OP
Evolution is "just" a theory... Gore1FL Mar 2018 #1
The total lack of understanding of science can only be explained by complete and willful Fred Sanders Mar 2018 #3
Of course gravity is 'just' a theory as well... Stonepounder Mar 2018 #4
No, Congressional stupidity is beyond theory! Maeve Mar 2018 #14
Those of us in Oklahoma are more than familiar with Pruitt's crazy ideas. redstatebluegirl Mar 2018 #2
I'm no scholar... amcgrath Mar 2018 #5
+1 Canoe52 Mar 2018 #13
Utter Delusional Nonsense colsohlibgal Mar 2018 #6
Not exactly true Major Nikon Mar 2018 #9
Early brainwashing in the church is stronger than many people realize dameatball Mar 2018 #16
Pruitt is a vestige Marthe48 Mar 2018 #7
And antibiotic resistance is an illusion dalton99a Mar 2018 #8
As is the "power of prayer" and everything else of a divine nature Major Nikon Mar 2018 #10
I wonder how long "Just a theory" will remain a talking point Hav Mar 2018 #11
Indefinitely so long as you are teaching in schools that Noah lived to 900 Major Nikon Mar 2018 #12
Scottie is nuttier Bantamfancier Mar 2018 #15

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
3. The total lack of understanding of science can only be explained by complete and willful
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:01 PM
Mar 2018

ignorance, or the same ignorance forced by extremist religious views. Take your pick. Or both in the case of the Bible-thumping bigot Pruitt.

Another great embarrassment courtesy of Trumpster.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
4. Of course gravity is 'just' a theory as well...
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:02 PM
Mar 2018

as is the 'theory' of relativity and the 'theory' of Congressional stupidity.

Maeve

(42,271 posts)
14. No, Congressional stupidity is beyond theory!
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:59 PM
Mar 2018

I wish some of these idjits would find out what scientist mean by "theory"...but that would require them to use their brains for something besides cooling their blood....

(and for those who don't know, that is a joke referencing an older theory of what the brain did!)

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
2. Those of us in Oklahoma are more than familiar with Pruitt's crazy ideas.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:01 PM
Mar 2018

He has been a tool of big oil and mega churches forever. I fear he will come back here and run for Senate when dumb dumb retires or croaks.

amcgrath

(397 posts)
5. I'm no scholar...
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:14 PM
Mar 2018

But I know that Oklahoma is known for three things.

Wheat
Cattle
Oil

Strains of wheat have been carefully bred for maximum yield and resistance to insects,disease and drought. - including 'Roundup resistant' varieties.

Cattle are extensively bred for health and productivity, natural procreation usually put aside in preference for artificial insemination, ensuring the physical attributes the breeders desire.

Both of these facts imply that the the god fearing people of Oklahoma may talk a 'Creationist' game, but are fully cognizant of the selective application of genetics, using them to 'evolve' both better cattle and crops.

And which Oklahoma oil companies send their exploration teams to survey in areas or geological formations that are 5000 years old or less. - and what do they think oil actually is ?

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
9. Not exactly true
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:33 PM
Mar 2018

A scientific theory is one that can be successfully tested by empirical methods and provides a model that helps us understand our universe. It does not rule out all other possibilities. The "other" possibility that the religionist propose is the existence of an invisible sky daddy that works by way of inexpiable hocus pocus. While this sort of reasoning worked well thousands of years ago when empirical methods were poorly understood, it really only serves as a method to fool the weak minded today.

dameatball

(7,394 posts)
16. Early brainwashing in the church is stronger than many people realize
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 03:49 PM
Mar 2018

My best female friend has a masters degree and was a school teacher for over 30 years. However she does not believe in evolution. Her family is deeply religious and attends a small church in a mountain town where she grew up. She is witty, intelligent, pleasant and votes Democratic and belonged to the teachers' union. I sort of cringe when the subject comes up. Fortunately that is very seldom.

Marthe48

(16,898 posts)
7. Pruitt is a vestige
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:27 PM
Mar 2018

of an unnecessary organ.

This is a link to one of my favorite memes: http://www.nedmartin.org/v3/amused/evolution-stop-following-me

I'd love to see it updated where the modern human is saying it to repukes.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
10. As is the "power of prayer" and everything else of a divine nature
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:36 PM
Mar 2018

It's not as if rational arguments are going to gain much traction with these people.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
11. I wonder how long "Just a theory" will remain a talking point
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:36 PM
Mar 2018

It simply shows a lack of understanding. Evolution is a theory and will always remain a theory until it is disproven which is unlikely. It is the consensus among scientists, proven by the current data and not disproven by anything. There is no higher category above scientific theory that evolution, or any other theory, could ever reach.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
12. Indefinitely so long as you are teaching in schools that Noah lived to 900
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:41 PM
Mar 2018

When you convince people to believe in talking donkeys, the rejection of the Theory of Evolution just isn't much of a challenge.

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