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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 02:25 PM Mar 2018

Andrew McCabe pleading case at Justice Department

Source: CNN




By Pamela Brown, CNN

Updated 1:24 PM ET, Thu March 15, 2018

Washington (CNN)Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe is currently at the Justice Department meeting with the deputy attorney general's office making his case why he should not be fired days before his 50th birthday and lose his pension, a source familiar with the meeting said. DOJ is expected to make a decision by Friday.

McCabe was set to officially retire on March 18, but according to a source familiar with the matter, he could be fired just days before and lose his pension after a more than two-decade career at the bureau.

The embattled official abruptly stepped down at the end of January and has been on leave since that time. CNN has learned the FBI's Office of Professional Responsibility has recommended McCabe be fired and now the decision is up to Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

The issue stems from findings in an internal Justice Department watchdog report that claims he misled investigators about his decision to authorize FBI officials to speak to the media about an investigation into the Clinton Foundation.

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Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/15/politics/mccabe-justice-department/index.html

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Andrew McCabe pleading case at Justice Department (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2018 OP
IF trump takes his pension, takes this loyal republican's pension, will deplorables care? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #1
I think he's a Democrat underthematrix Mar 2018 #2
He's a Republican. Jim__ Mar 2018 #5
His wife is a Democrat. underthematrix Mar 2018 #12
So what? Kingofalldems Mar 2018 #20
Well this whole drama seems to be about his wife's run for office. underthematrix Mar 2018 #21
Yes it's about Trump getting revenge. Kingofalldems Mar 2018 #22
you're detracting from this thread and posting false stuff CreekDog Mar 2018 #32
well you thought wrong CreekDog Mar 2018 #31
Can't he immediately file a complaint with his HR? He has been publicly intimidated. Surely he Doodley Mar 2018 #3
That is what I was thinking. File a grievance to run out R B Garr Mar 2018 #10
The pension decision can be rendered retroactively after retirement Zambero Mar 2018 #13
Every day a new low. MontanaMama Mar 2018 #4
This time it seems they went through the process. Calista241 Mar 2018 #19
oh it's a normal process to fire someone on a Friday night? CreekDog Mar 2018 #33
Trump loves revenge. The more cruel, the better. SharonAnn Mar 2018 #25
WTF is this? Beg like a dog? bucolic_frolic Mar 2018 #6
MABA Make America Beg Again ollie10 Mar 2018 #8
I suspect that if Trump indeed does fire him and McCabe loses his pension that this will NOT go flying_wahini Mar 2018 #7
This is an intimidation tactic to all Federal Agency Employees MadLinguist Mar 2018 #9
yep poboy2 Mar 2018 #15
This, along with the witch hunt at State. alarimer Mar 2018 #30
Firing McCabe would be a dick move by the Trump administration Zorro Mar 2018 #11
If they fire McCabe C_U_L8R Mar 2018 #14
If Trump yanks McCabe's pension then McCabe should start to shop avebury Mar 2018 #16
I'm trying to imagine the RAGE from the rank and file if they do this! Grins Mar 2018 #17
Loyalty test Lefta Dissenter Mar 2018 #18
I wish I would have gotten a pension at age 50 Yupster Mar 2018 #23
But I wouldn't have wanted to work in Law Enforcement in order to get it. SharonAnn Mar 2018 #24
Yup. McCabe got his start as a member of a S.W.A.T. team. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #27
I do not like McCabe or Comey, but it would be unfair for them to deny his pension still_one Mar 2018 #26
Isn't he protected by civil service regulations? dawg day Mar 2018 #28
Well, his wife is a Democrat so he deserves to be punished. milestogo Mar 2018 #29

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
1. IF trump takes his pension, takes this loyal republican's pension, will deplorables care?
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 02:26 PM
Mar 2018

It is on the record that no human being alive is a bigger piece of shit than trump, no human being is capable of revenge like him.

Well, other than mass killers.

Jim__

(14,074 posts)
5. He's a Republican.
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 02:50 PM
Mar 2018

At least according to wikipedia:


Born Andrew George McCabe
1968 (age 49–50)
Hartford, Connecticut, U.S.
Political party Republican[1][2]
Spouse(s) Jill McCabe
Education Duke University (BA)
Washington University in St. Louis (JD)

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
32. you're detracting from this thread and posting false stuff
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 01:51 AM
Mar 2018

maybe this isn't a good topic for you to post about if you can't get basic facts right.

Doodley

(9,078 posts)
3. Can't he immediately file a complaint with his HR? He has been publicly intimidated. Surely he
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 02:35 PM
Mar 2018

has a legal case there.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
10. That is what I was thinking. File a grievance to run out
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 03:13 PM
Mar 2018

the clock. Or whatever the legal process is, file it immediately as a placeholder.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
13. The pension decision can be rendered retroactively after retirement
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 03:57 PM
Mar 2018

So there's no running out the clock per se. In a worst-case scenario he would still be able to take his retirement contributions as a lump sum.

MontanaMama

(23,301 posts)
4. Every day a new low.
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 02:38 PM
Mar 2018

Every day I think I can't be surprised at the depths this administration will plumb and yet, I am shocked. Again. Still.

Making this man beg for what he is entitled to. No words.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
19. This time it seems they went through the process.
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 07:30 PM
Mar 2018

This recommendation is coming from the Inspector General’s office. This particular Inspector General was appointed by Obama, in an investigation begun before Trump took office.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
33. oh it's a normal process to fire someone on a Friday night?
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 01:52 AM
Mar 2018

it's normal for Calista to defend such a thing.

bucolic_frolic

(43,121 posts)
6. WTF is this? Beg like a dog?
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 02:53 PM
Mar 2018

This is meant to make an example out of him, to discourage others from doing their jobs. IOW more obstruction!

flying_wahini

(6,588 posts)
7. I suspect that if Trump indeed does fire him and McCabe loses his pension that this will NOT go
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 02:56 PM
Mar 2018


Well with many Republicans who, like Democrats, are counting on their pensions to retire.
Every BabyBoomer getting ready to retire will pause when they hear this one.
Especially since McCabe is a republican.

MadLinguist

(789 posts)
9. This is an intimidation tactic to all Federal Agency Employees
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 03:11 PM
Mar 2018

pure and simple.
To my mind at least, it is another piece of evidence in the portrait of intent files for the charge of obstruction of justice.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
30. This, along with the witch hunt at State.
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 12:38 PM
Mar 2018

Whistle blower told Democratic lawmakers that the Trump administration was looking to get rid of people who didn't "support his agenda."

Zorro

(15,733 posts)
11. Firing McCabe would be a dick move by the Trump administration
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 03:19 PM
Mar 2018

so I won't be surprised if it happened.

Of course the root of this problem is McCabe's anti-Hillary dick move, so he's brought this on himself.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
16. If Trump yanks McCabe's pension then McCabe should start to shop
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 04:30 PM
Mar 2018

around for a book deal. There is good money to be had for behind the scenes tell all books at this point in time.

Grins

(7,205 posts)
17. I'm trying to imagine the RAGE from the rank and file if they do this!
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 06:31 PM
Mar 2018

They may all become Democrats. Need some Dems to step up and say, "We got 'yer back."

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
18. Loyalty test
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 06:49 PM
Mar 2018

It's a loyalty test for Sessions - to see if he's willing to do whatever Trump wants, no matter how cruel it may be. I'm guessing that Sessions knows that if he fails this test, he's gone immediately.

Next up, the Milgram Experiment.

SharonAnn

(13,772 posts)
24. But I wouldn't have wanted to work in Law Enforcement in order to get it.
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 10:46 PM
Mar 2018

Those jobs can be hazardous to your health.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
28. Isn't he protected by civil service regulations?
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 11:37 PM
Mar 2018

And even if not, he'd have a great lawsuit. Getting fired days before your pension vests? It wouldn't be difficult to prove malice, given Trump's nasty tweets about him.

It's just horrific, that Trump could be in charge of anything. He's so awful-- they could release the entire inmates of a federal prison, and all of them would be better human beings than this horrible man.
I will never ever understand how anyone could vote for him.

I don't think there's a hell, but if there was.... well, there's no hell, maybe, but there are prisons. So I'm going to hope he goes to prison. Or at least spends the last few years of his disgusting life in and out of courtrooms, with protesters screaming at him every time he emerges.

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