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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,297 posts)
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 02:35 PM Mar 2018

Superstore chain Fred Meyer to stop selling guns, ammunition

Source: Associated Press

Superstore chain Fred Meyer to stop selling guns, ammunition

16 minutes ago

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) Superstore company Fred Meyer will stop selling guns and ammunition.

The Portland, Oregon,-based chain in a statement Friday said it made the decision after evaluating customer preferences. The company sells guns at nearly 45 of its more than 130 stores in Oregon, Washington, Idaho and Alaska.

Fred Meyer has made a business decision to exit the firearms category, the company said. We are currently working on plans to responsibly phase out sales of firearms and ammunition.

The company, a subsidiary of Cincinnati, Ohio,-based Kroger Co., didnt give a timeline.

Read more: https://apnews.com/fdc99fc5f89c4da682730c86881d8313



Oregon-based superstore chain Fred Meyer to phase out sales of guns and ammunition at its more than 130 locations across the Pacific Northwest.


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Superstore chain Fred Meyer to stop selling guns, ammunition (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2018 OP
my hubby works at the Hollywood store trueblue2007 Mar 2018 #1
I shop at the Hollywood store almost every day.. Permanut Mar 2018 #4
Good for Freddies! nonpareil Mar 2018 #6
I liked the original Hollywood store on Sandy with its roof parking PSPS Mar 2018 #7
My mom worked at one in the 70's. In Oregon, they are a cultural institution yurbud Mar 2018 #9
I was very angry Larrybanal Mar 2018 #14
Shoppers are not Stupid, Wellstone ruled Mar 2018 #2
So weird, Fred Meijer Johnny2X2X Mar 2018 #3
Thanks for your attention to this very important subject....to add further asiliveandbreathe Mar 2018 #5
This made as much moral sense as... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #8
No, I think their lawyers talked to their PR and marketing folk. Igel Mar 2018 #10
And this is exactly why consumer advocacy can work. erronis Mar 2018 #15
Agree to what you're saying, but... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #16
I buy my .303 and .38 ammuntion at a gun shop. Wolf Frankula Mar 2018 #17
How many gun stores sell .303 ammo? jmowreader Mar 2018 #20
0303 ammunition Wolf Frankula Mar 2018 #21
Good point. sl8 Mar 2018 #19
a sort of hallelujah, I have been 'shopping elsewhere' for a while now demigoddess Mar 2018 #11
If Kroger is the main store BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #12
Freddy's started out in Oregon. janx Mar 2018 #22
YAY KROGER and FRED MEYER! OMGWTF Mar 2018 #13
I like it too. n/t janx Mar 2018 #23
their building a new Meyers 1/4 mi from me elmac Mar 2018 #18

Permanut

(5,561 posts)
4. I shop at the Hollywood store almost every day..
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 02:53 PM
Mar 2018

Great store, great people. Just a side note, my Mother worked for Fred (THE Fred Meyer) just before WWII, in his store in downtown Portland. From her reports and stories about him, I think he would approve of this move to stop selling guns and ammo.

nonpareil

(71 posts)
6. Good for Freddies!
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 03:01 PM
Mar 2018

That's my old store! I used to live near Grant High School. Does Hollywood sell guns? I don't recall ever seeing any. I know that Stadium and Burlingame don't. I suspect that only some of the suburban and rural stores sell them. Probably not a big money maker. But still, good for them for doing the right thing.

PSPS

(13,579 posts)
7. I liked the original Hollywood store on Sandy with its roof parking
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 03:02 PM
Mar 2018

Fred Meyer never sold guns when I was in Portland. but that was back before the leveraged buyout and it was locally-owned. I was born before Fred died.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
9. My mom worked at one in the 70's. In Oregon, they are a cultural institution
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 03:51 PM
Mar 2018

like Powell's Books, the Columbia River Gorge, and rain.

 

Larrybanal

(227 posts)
14. I was very angry
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 05:24 PM
Mar 2018

when they started selling guns a couple years ago at the orchards store in vancouver...they are sold by the same guy that makes keys and mixes paints... this news makes me very happy

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. Shoppers are not Stupid,
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 02:47 PM
Mar 2018

they have figured it out that Meyers is a Kroger owned operation and this issue has and is costing them customer dollars. Here in the West it is Smith's,and yes people are going to their Competitors.

Johnny2X2X

(18,972 posts)
3. So weird, Fred Meijer
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 02:51 PM
Mar 2018

Here in Michigan in the Midwest, we have Meijer's, a grocery store chain whose stores are massive and contain everything Walmart does only not as cheap, and the have the best produce around. This chain was started by Fred Meijer who recently passed, but not before becoming one of the great philanthropists in West Michigan. Mejier was a great man and an atheist who gave to so many causes, but rarely asked that his name be placed on a building in return for his giving.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
5. Thanks for your attention to this very important subject....to add further
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 02:58 PM
Mar 2018

this link contains more information for discussion and to be just in the know.....

"grocery's not guns"

https://momsdemandaction.org/groceriesnotguns/

a list is also provided to identify those retailers who have changed their policy regarding guns in grocery stores...

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
8. This made as much moral sense as...
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 03:06 PM
Mar 2018

Walgreens Drugs selling cigarettes. They will all do anything to better compete with Walmart.

..............

Igel

(35,274 posts)
10. No, I think their lawyers talked to their PR and marketing folk.
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 04:54 PM
Mar 2018

If you want to not sell something legal to somebody who wants to buy it, you'd better have a good reason for not selling it. Even if the customer's only a protected class in their fantasies.

Not selling a gun to a 20-year-old legally allowed to buy it while selling the same gun to somebody who's 21 years old and standing right next to him is quite like not selling a wedding cake to one couple while selling the same cake to somebody standing right next to them.

The suggestion to the cake maker was to just go out of the cake business or behave as a public accommodation--it's immoral to not sell to somebody just because you have a moral or ethical objection to selling to that particular person.

So Fred Meyer's going out of the gun business.

erronis

(15,181 posts)
15. And this is exactly why consumer advocacy can work.
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 05:36 PM
Mar 2018

You can have 3% of customers come in and want to buy firearms. If you don't sell them the customers will either leave or buy some other goods.

You can have 30% of customers come in and say they are upset about firearm sales in the store. A large percentage of these customers will not buy anything anymore from this store/chain until the matter is resolved.

So, lose up to 3% of some customers' business for not selling guns; or lose up to 30% of all customer's business because you are a supporter of the RW nuts to carry arms and assault weapons.

Doesn't take an MBA to figure this one out.

Unfortunately, none of this will hurt the NRA's bottom line since they are getting their support from somewhere else...

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
16. Agree to what you're saying, but...
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 05:52 PM
Mar 2018

What I said was somewhat in jest to point out some of the paradox and oddness in our American system of consumerism. Guns in grocery stores? Cigarettes in health/drug stores? Maybe I'm just odd and old-fashioned (I am).

I personally would prefer guns and ammo only be sold in gun shops where sales can be tightly controlled and not put on public display to be glorified in family-oriented outlets. I'm saying that because of our out-of-control gun culture - a culture nothing like what we had in my youth in the country. Guns were almost entirely for hunting and varmit control and were highly respected for the danger they can pose.

Wolf Frankula

(3,598 posts)
17. I buy my .303 and .38 ammuntion at a gun shop.
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 06:13 PM
Mar 2018

Why? So I can deal with somebody who knows what I am talking about. I would not buy my computer parts at a department store. They won't know what I want.

Wolf

sl8

(13,676 posts)
19. Good point.
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 06:33 PM
Mar 2018

From http://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2018/03/11/another-20-year-old-man-has-sued-oregon-stores-over-gun-sales-this-time-its-fred-meyer-and-bi-mart-for-refusing-to-sell-him-ammo/

Another 20-Year-Old Man Has Sued Oregon Stores Over Gun Sales. This Time, It’s Fred Meyer and Bi-Mart for Refusing to Sell Him Ammo.

The cases hinge on claims that the stores are violating Oregon's anti-discrimination laws.

By Katie Shepherd | Published March 11 at 3:50 PM Updated March 11 at 3:50 PM

Another young Oregon man has sued retailers because of age restrictions on gun and ammunition purchases that keep people under 21 from purchasing firearms and bullets.

Airion Grace, a 20-year-old Washington County man, sued Fred Meyer and Bi-Mart after clerks at both stores denied his request to buy bullets for a shotgun. The Oregonian first reported the lawsuits Friday evening.

Both stores instituted restrictions in response to a mass shooting at a Florida high school last month. Walmart and Dick's Sporting Goods have announced similar policies in their stores and another Oregon man sued those national chains after they refused to sell him a rifle.

...



More at link.

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
11. a sort of hallelujah, I have been 'shopping elsewhere' for a while now
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 05:12 PM
Mar 2018

because they had a gun area in our local Fred Meyer, but I have really liked shopping at QFC instead. No asking me every two seconds if I am 'finding everything' and the people there are more helpful and nicer. For some reason I had various men help me with my cart, or one week a random man gave me a rose. And these weren't employees! You don't get that kind of niceness at Fred Meyer.

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
12. If Kroger is the main store
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 05:18 PM
Mar 2018

does that mean other Kroger related stores will do the same or are they separate entities entirely?

janx

(24,128 posts)
22. Freddy's started out in Oregon.
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 10:23 PM
Mar 2018

I know this because I have had family there for decades.

Kroger owns Freddy's currently and I have hoped Freddy's would come down to New Mexico. It hasn't so far, but I see their brands at our Kroger owned stores here.

OMGWTF

(3,941 posts)
13. YAY KROGER and FRED MEYER!
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 05:22 PM
Mar 2018

I love to shop at Fred Meyer -- it truly is one-stop shopping. I can buy a pair of Sketchers shoes, a pretty dress, a loaf of store-baked French bread, organic produce, bulk spices, a basketball, sheets, a rug, art, furniture, etc. Their employees are union members, AND they send me a rebate check four times a year.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
18. their building a new Meyers 1/4 mi from me
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 06:16 PM
Mar 2018

I do most of my shopping at local, family owned stores but Meyers is a MI based store so will do some shopping there.

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