Lie detector test shows Stormy Daniels truthful about Trump affair

[WiseElder]

Source: NBC news

Adult film actress Stormy Daniels underwent a polygraph exam in 2011 about her relationship with Donald Trump, and the examiner found there was a more than 99 percent probability she told the truth when she said they had unprotected sex in 2006, according to a copy of the report obtained by NBC News Tuesday.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/lie-detector-test-shows-stormy-daniels-truthful-about-trump-affair-n858281

[iluvtennis]

1. Never doubted her...she seems very genuine

[olddad56]

2. at least in comparision to Trump.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

3. I think she tells the truth, but dont credit lie detector tests. People are trained to fool them. nt

[William Seger]

21. DT apparently knows she tells the truth, but that's a horrible headline

It perpetuates the myth that polygraphs are "lie detectors." They are just stress detectors, which doesn't necessarily tell you anything about truthfulness. And yes, they can be fooled -- or rather, the polygrapher can, by his own assumption that the thing detects deceptiveness.

[Rainbow Droid]

4. Polygraphing is pseudoscience and all results are questionable. There is nothing else to say.

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edit: I do not disbelieve Daniels. I'm certain she's telling the truth.

But pseudoscience (and yes, I did misspell it more than once, for which I have no good excuse except that I'm getting old) like polygraphy should never be relied upon as "evidence" for anything. Pseudoscience is a dead end.

[erronis]

12. So let's see how your tDump does on a test. Just for fun.

There seems to be a lot of recent "interesting" uses of english just now, "psudoscience"? If you're going to be hip, spell it "sudosci".

Your AI ain't so great. Maybe you've just practiced with some other russkis or the dump (he doesn't speak english good either.)

[Rainbow Droid]

15. Because I was in a hurry and misspelled "psuedoscience" that makes me a bot?

Get real.

edit: And a Russian too? What the fuck is wrong with you? It would only take you 10 minutes to easily prove to yourself that polygraphing is not grounded in science. Why don't you go do that right now? I'll wait here. This kind of willfully ignorant hyperpartisanship is what got us here. It's not going to get us out.

[erronis]

17. Glad to see that you've worked on your spelling dictionary. Still not quite right.

I don't think polygraphs are very good either (I've had a few).

I also think that being very careful about what you say is important.

Take care.

[rzemanfl]

19. Bookmarking. n/t

[PoliticAverse]

5. Hey, a lie detector examiner gave someone the results they wanted so they leaked the results. n/t

[dameatball]

6. "unprotected sex"......does that mean he wasn't wearing a raincoat?

[llmart]

10. Yes.

The drugstore ran out of extra smalls.

[Siwsan]

27. He could have checked the office supply aisle for some finger cots.

Just saying.......

[llmart]

30. That too!

[PJMcK]

24. No

It means he didn't put the paper bag over his head.

Stormy's upset because she forgot the fundamental rule of "going ugly." Put a second bag over your own head in case his bag falls off.

[chuckstevens]

7. Interesting, but legally irrelevant.

[WiseElder]

8. Maybe Trump had good cause.

New wife at home with new baby; maybe he was not getting any there. After all, what normal man could turn down a porn star.


(sarcasm)

[erronis]

13. If he carried a few $100 bills in his undies, she might get excited!

But I think the future payoffs will make porn a real lucrative and perhaps legal occupation (as it is many other places.)

Just think when those Capitol Hill critters can wander down to the K-Street shops and pay for their favorite pleasures openly - with taxpayer $s!

What will Mikey Pence do? Will Mrs. Pence need to chaperone him everywhere in DC?

And finally the Ryan creep will be able to come on out and admit that his BFF is himself.

Turtle will still act like he doesn't know which rock he came out of.

[red dog 1]

14. + 1

Welcome to DU!

[TalenaGor]

9. im betting trump got her preg and she had an abortion....

[Bernardo de La Paz]

22. Unlikely. But she is lucky she didn't get syphillis, depite tRump's bragging about Vietnam War. . nt

[Nash Teeth]

11. If polygraph session transcript isn't "press"

I wonder if publishing it would be a violation of her NDC

[red dog 1]

16. K&R

[angrychair]

20. Polygraphs are entertainment

It’s great and all but it’s legally irrelevant and completely based on junk science.

A polygraph is not a “lie detector” and could give false or positive results for any number of reasons.

If she has images or DNA or can give an accurate description of certain areas of trump’s body than that is admissible in court.

A polygraph analyst could just as easily be a Phrenologist.

The story is nice and all but I hate pseudoscience nonsense as it perpetuates ignorance and creates doubt and uncertainty in actual science (“these healing crystals will cure my illness”)

[NCjack]

23. The polygraph serves to propel the story forward for a couple of extra days. That delays

counterpunch by Trump's mouthpiece.

[angrychair]

31. No, dont get me wrong

I love anything that chips away at trump and his cult but she has alluded to much more substantial evidence than a polygraph (pictures and a “blue” dress 👗 and that kind of thing is a lot more damaging.

[NCjack]

32. I should have said that the polygraph is a bridge in maintaining public's attention

until we get we get to "semi-hard" evidence.

[angrychair]

33. I see what you did there (semi hard)

Your OP was a good one. It was not at all a dump on your OP and it is incredibly interesting information that adds more texture to this story and as you rightly point out, keeps attention on it. I just hate pseudoscience, especially the kind of pseudoscience, like polys and bite mark analysis, that has been used to wrongly convict otherwise innocent people of crimes.

[BobTheSubgenius]

25. My experience with polygraph.

I'm not saying they are accurate, and of course they are far from legally significant, but...my experience was interesting, at least to me.

While at uni, I signed up to be a guinea pig in a grad student's psych experiment. While I didn't train for it (there wasn't time for that, and....why?) I was very good at "controlling" my breathing, heart rate and BP with relaxation techniques, and, also relevant I believe, I had an exceptional level of CV fitness. (lifeguard)

The outcome was of zero consequence to me, other than an academic interest, because there was nothing on the line. So, the level of stress induced by choosing a number from a range, then denying each one in that range as it was read off, including the one you did choose, was miniscule. Other meaningless questions or tests were included, but it was 1970, so...kinda forgot them since then.

I was told afterwards that I came the closest of anyone in the experiment to "beating" it, but they still interpreted my results correctly every time.

My feeling is that they are about as accurate as body language experts and cold reads. Top poker players are great at reading an an opponent's tells, for example.

[BobTheSubgenius]

26. OH, and...

...welcome to DU!

[Maeve]

28. "About as accurate as body language experts and cold reads"

Pretty much, yeah. Some operators are really, really good at getting to the truth, but don't bet your life on the results being accurate. They do make good theater, tho.

[Nailzberg]

29. Polygraphs are junk science. I think Daniels is telling the truth, but not basing it on this.