Most Republicans Say Trump Is Being Framed

[DonViejo]

Source: PoliticalWire


March 30, 2018 at 9:42 am EDT By Taegan Goddard

A new Economist/YouGov poll finds 58% of Republicans think President Trump is being framed by the FBI and Department of Justice in the Russian investigation.




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[Clarity2]

1. we need the pee pee tape

Or some other audio/video. It's the only way they will believe.

[lsewpershad]

3. Doubt

Seriously if their beliefs would change.

[LenaBaby61]

47. "Doubt seriously if their beliefs would change."

There are SOME who voted for him that have seen the light and admit that they were either stupid or duped (Per my friends relatives/friends. NO ONE in my family voted for tRump or are thuglicans). However, too many of them continue on drinking their Kool-Aid WHILE wearing their tin-foil hats

My friend said that her sister-in-law and brother told her that ALL of those russian contacts of Kushner's, Manafort's and Flynn's were Crooked Hillary's friends , and that she lost on purpose while at the same time paying Manafort/Kushnerm & Flynn to help her frame Dotard, and that she's also working with the FBI, CIA and especially with Comey, McCabe and Robert Mueller, who they told my friend was never in Vietnam My friend & her husband started limiting contact with her brother/his wife even before the GE, but have had almost had NO contact with them since February 2016, but she couldn't avoid speaking with them because they all recently attended their Great Aunt's funeral. She was 102 yes old, extremely liberal and from Missouri when it was a Democratic stronghold. My friend said that her Great-aunt was sickened because her Great-grandson voted Republican and especially for tRump, who the Great-aunt called "SATAN'S BOY." My friend said that her 2nd cousin told her that everytime her Mom saw tRump on television, she'd high-tail it out of the room on her electric wheelchair, because she couldn't listen to nor stand to even LOOK @ "SATAN'S BOY."

Back to the tRump cultists, many of them are TRULY bat shit. They're NOT reachable.

[Cary]

52. 12% "Democrats?"

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I expect delusions from cult followers and venal and craven "conservatives" but what real Democrat would buy into "conservative" conspiracy bullshit?

[alp227]

56. only those Bernie partisans

or those who consume too much RT/Infowars

[efhmc]

4. The GOP is very averse to facts.

nt

[Downtown Hound]

25. They'll just say it's fake. n/t

[Eliot Rosewater]

28. WE are beyond all this now. None of who will believe and wont matters, our country has

been taken over by our enemy, Russia.

We may not have elections where votes are counted at least votes by democrats.

If we dont take back house and senate, everything WILL come apart in a very bad way. Very fast

Anyone who still supports the traitor is them-self acting out treason. period

[Blackjackdavey]

40. Is it really Russia?

Russia hasn't taken over, they aided a coup by white supremacist dead enders. These people aren't supporting a traitor, they are supporting a coup. They aren't being fooled, they aren't being manipulated. They are in on it and they like it. Russia isn't destroying our government. Americans are. Instead of waiting for the 58% in this poll to wake up, it is time we wake up to the fact our system of government has been overthrown, not by foreign actors but by Americans, with the help of foreign actors.

[Eliot Rosewater]

41. Yes it is Russia but we are saying the same thing.

RUSSIA hacked our elections, stole the elections, on behalf of SIXTY MILLION traitors aka republicans.

[Blackjackdavey]

43. We aren't

saying the same thing. The sixty million are American citizens. They are not Russians. They are not going to go away whether we round up all the Russians and impeach Trump and throw his ass in jail or not. In fact, I fully expect a Trump impeachment to simply be the next step toward a hot civil war. They call themselves patriots, they "love" America, they mean to do us harm. They are Americans. Don't get me wrong, Russia loves it, is knee deep in it but they are merely foreign allies of the enemy within.

[Eliot Rosewater]

44. VERBATIM what i have said on here one thousand times

[Blackjackdavey]

45. My apologies then

The reason I think this distinction is important is because the Mueller investigation is beginning to seem a bit too conveniently distracting to a large number of us are pinning our hopes on the outcome while our government, all of the things that did indeed make America great, are being systematically dismantled. When it's over, too many will blame Russians, and these same people will once again rise from the ashes, maybe not in name but in spirit. I'm picking up that you agree.

[dchill]

2. YGBFKM.

[Eyeball_Kid]

5. This is the sobering result of Trumpy's anti-government propaganda designed to save his ass.

It works so well that 58% of Republicans now believe that a largely Republican dominated DoJ is somehow anti-Republican and is therefore determined to destroy Republican politicians. That's what propaganda does.

Russians love this shit. They've combined forces with wingers and Trumpians to undermine any DoJ authority to uphold the Rule of Law.

[beachbum bob]

6. who really care? Those people are clueless on most everything any way and DO NOT

represent the opinion of the majority of the voting public.

[exboyfil]

29. Actually they do

and because of the way electoral votes are proportioned as well as Senators and the gerrymandered Congressional districts, they need to only have about 45% of the population to retain control.

[jzodda]

7. Partly due to criminal behavior of Fox

They are assisting with obstruction of justice, and openly lying to their moronic audience. Places like breitfart and drudge not helping also.

[pandr32]

22. Exactly.

They think Fox is a national high rated news organization and if Fox isn't covering something than it mustn't be important.

We all watch the protests or things that are going on and then if you switch to Fox it is discussing something unrelated or lying about what is going on. It constantly refers to Democrats or Liberals as having an agenda, and the implication is that it is a nefarious one. Since Fox streams into the living rooms of every nook and cranny of our country, even for those on basic cable, it is a problem.

Republicans are taught not to believe or trust the truth.

[awesomerwb1]

8. Thanks to propaganda and disinformation

from Faux and the alt-right orgs.

Depressing to say the least.

[FreepFryer]

9. Not sure why anyone expected otherwise...

That’s because the Watergate affair turned conservative skeptics of Richard Nixon into hardcore supporters, drawing out the immediate crisis and deepening divisions in the long term. Conservatives at the time refashioned the scandal into a tale of Democratic hypocrisy and media hostility — a narrative that many Republicans have adopted once again to explain away the emerging Trump scandals.

In perhaps the boldest stroke of all, when the evidence of Nixon’s wrongdoing became undeniable, the right attributed the president’s crimes to the growing institutional power of the presidency — making Watergate, in a sense, a “liberal” scandal after all.

Until the very end, Watergate gave Nixon a stature on the right that he had previously lacked. And even after Nixon’s resignation, the right never quite accepted the liberal narrative of the impeachment as a heroic moment for investigative journalism and a cleansing moment for American politics. All of which suggests that, at least for now, the Comey firing could help Trump consolidate his support among conservatives and Republicans, the very people who have the power to hold him accountable.

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/5/12/15630372/watergate-impeachment-conservative-public-opinion-trump-history

[Achilleaze]

10. Wow - the level of propaganda deception is positively russian in scope & depth

the KGOP republicans have learned well how to twist people into "true believers" + fascist cultists.

[bucolic_frolic]

11. Law Enforcement is not done by public opinion polling

only in the jury box under applicable law

BTW ... is Trump a U.S. citizen? Or a citizen of Russia?

[Bengus81]

12. Yep...and Nixon was framed too...........

IDIOTS...........

[vercetti2021]

13. Most Republicans are idiots

Just ask them, their responses will answer the question itself

[NRaleighLiberal]

14. Wow. who knew this level of hypocrisy and insanity and ignorance would become so pervasive so fast?

Well, we have past models to indicate just how this works. Think Hitler.

We are in a bad, bad place....we need the apparently invisible, rare republican politicians with spine and care of the country over individual power, greed, and corruption. We need all of these movements to stay the course and grow.

We need an awful lot of the country to turn off hate TV and radio and stop listening to their raving preachers and regrow a brain and a thought process.

We need a lot.

[TommyCelt]

15. This is concerning -

- because when the evidence of collusion is finally brought to light, his hardened backers along with a majority of GOPers, will stand against it as manufactured, false, "fake evidence".

Abolish the rule of law...this is how liberty dies.

[duforsure]

16. That's no shocker

Most believe whatever he says is the truth too. Many believe he's religious, faithful to his wife, he's not involved with Putin, and much more , which is regularly proven he isn't, and a serial liar. His track record is littered with people that used to believe him too, contractors, business members he screwed, bank executives he screwed over, and women. The list could go on and on about those that learned he can't be trusted. When they realize he claimed he wouldn't touch Medicare or Social Security , which he's already doing things to undermine them already, then maybe when they realize he's a liar, and not representing them after all they'll refuse to vote for him or any others (GOP) like him out of office.

[Mr. Ected]

17. As long as Mueller is 100% certain that Trump isn't being framed

I'm good.

On the other hand, I would imagine WAY MORE than 58% of Democrats think that Hillary Clinton is being framed. Because she is.

[certainot]

18. because americans allow 1500 radio stations to lie all day on public airwaves

[iluvtennis]

19. This is absurd. he's always been a corrupt business man and he used the same tactics in the election

Now he will have to pay the price. My granny taught us to always "keep your nose clean".

[Angry Dragon]

33. +1000

[dalton99a]

20. The shithole has been complaining about unfair treatment ever since he announced his candidacy

The brainwashing is working well

[elias7]

21. The evidence must be indisputable

If the Republican leadership is complicit or culpable, they'll never stand up. Is this "framed" narrative holds up once mass charges start coming down, this has the potential to become violent.

Ironically, the FBI and DOJ are in the hands of Republican leadership, and the true scandal within the FBI is Trumplandia and the conspiratorial manipulation of Comey 11 days before the election. This was indeed a coup, and like every Trump narrative, his accusations are projection of his own wrongdoings.

[ThoughtCriminal]

23. Just add it to the list of astonishing things

Republicans believe.

Fortunately, fewer and fewer people are willing to be Republicans and fantasies like this just accelerate the migration.

[Downtown Hound]

24. Most Republicans have a strained relationship with reality. n/t

[vkkv]

26. Same people who still believe Sadam Hussein was going to use WMDs on the U.S.

Same people who still believe we went into Iraq for any other reason than oil.

Same people who still believe we went into Iraq to free it's people.

Same people who still believe we actually "GAVE" IRAN over 500 million dollars in our Iran deal, just cuz,, ya know.. Obama.

[videohead5]

27. They are

Cultist.

[DoctorJoJo]

30. A List Of These Idiots Would Be Quite Valuable ...

... since they will buy anything!

[no_hypocrisy]

31. Cognitive disbelief and/or

willful ignorance and/or it's OK if a Republican does it.

[True_Blue]

32. Because most Republicans watch Faux news

They believe the fake news is real and the real news is fake. They believe every single lie that comes out of Trump's mouth.

[Botany]

34. Framed by the evidence and testimony

Republicans who stick by Trump will be in the dustbin of history along w/Trump & Pence.

Even some republicans are starting to flip ..... or acting like they are in order to save their
asses.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142026130

[Hoyt]

35. Of course. I wish Mueller would put out some kind of report. The longer it goes, the more it is

going to look like evidence was manufactured or misinterpreted.

Of course, the hardcore white wing GOPers aren't going to care whether trump did collude, obstruct justice, is compromised, or worse.

[Grammy23]

37. With that hardcore group, there could be video of Putin putting cash in tRumps hot, little hand

And they’d still cling to his side. BFF. But I must say when the proverbial sh*t hits the fan, a substantial number of his supporters will get their eyes opened. His financial information, such as his tax returns will be shocking, no doubt. His accusations of Amazon not paying enough taxes will ring kind of hollow when they find out how little he paid in taxes....for years. And then the depth and degree of betrayal with his deal with Russia might come as a gut punch to those who see him as a patriot — only to discover he is anything but that.

So his day of reconning is coming. I hope he doesn’t destroy the US of A by the time it gets here.

[dhill926]

36. I actually thought it would be higher....

I have little faith in the ability of repubs to discern facts....

[Turbineguy]

38. In a way, they are correct.

He frames himself. Or rather, he puts himself in the frame.

He like to tell people all about the new crimes which he hasn't committed.

[Gothmog]

39. Denial is not just a river in Africa

[rownesheck]

42. The worst part...

12% of democrats believe the idiot is being framed! Who the hell are those people?! Sounds like we have morons on our side as well.

[LiberalLovinLug]

46. Could be some that think he was just being used as a useful idiot

I think that this is true, but only in part. I believe he was criminally involved in money laundering even before entering the WH, and probably knew that Putin was helping to spread fake news about Hillary during the election. But he may not have known the details.

But no matter how much he knew the extent of Putin's help, and facilitated it, its pretty obvious by now how much of an easy mark he is. He's ultra susceptible to flattery, and sexual favors. He's like a spoiled rich kid who never grew up, and desperately wants to be liked, but was never taught how to play with others. Easily manipulated by other smarter operatives.

[rtracey]

48. so who

Who are the 12% of dems who think he is being framed, and how do we get the 16% of repubs that thinks hes not to vote dem.....

[SL1]

49. These people are beyond help....

This includes a majority of white women, if 52% of white women voted for Donald Trump, that means they don’t believe sexual assault exists, or if it does exist, it doesn’t mean anything

There is no turning back from that position

[Flaleftist]

50. Most Republicans are creationists.

It’s hard to take them seriously.

[pandr32]

51. I just spoke with one not long ago.

She claims that when Mueller hands in his report many of us will be awfully disappointed and so we had best try to get along with "mainstream Americans" instead--after all, tRump IS president and we should support him and our country (as if doing both is the same).

[BlueStater]

53. Doesn't matter what these dumbasses think. Let them wallow in their ignorance.

It only matters what the FBI thinks.

[madamesilverspurs]

54. A frame of his own making would be most appropriate.

Gilt on guilt, so to speak . . .




.

[DeminPennswoods]

55. Well, Mueller IS framing up Trump very nicely

with lots of solid, factual evidence.