Texas student defends merit of Harvard acceptance after question from former state official
Source: The HILL
Link to tweet
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A former Texas state official this week questioned a biracial California high school student's Harvard acceptance, asking on Twitter if he was admitted on "merit" or "quota."
Drake Johnson tweeted a photo of himself on Wednesday holding his Harvard acceptance letter and sporting the Ivy League university's sweatshirt, adding: "It's official, I'm Harvard bound."
George Clayton, a former member of the Texas state board of education, according to the Dallas Morning News, responded to the tweet.
"Congrats," Clayton wrote. "Were you admitted on merit or quota?"
Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/384247-texas-student-defends-merit-of-harvard-acceptance-after-question?amp&__twitter_impression=true
CatMor
(6,212 posts)how does someone like that get a position on a school board. No wonder schools are in trouble.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)of them.
White privilege, meet white jealousy.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)be a bad mistake. If all people were white, bigotry, oppression, and attempts to stratify society would still rage based on other factors. And of course they do right now, based on all of them. They are battling to impose conservative beliefs, secular and religious, on America, and they've succeeded in packing many boards of education with hard-core conservatives, most with fervent religious mandates.
CatMor, SO agree.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Of guys with 1/2 white and 1/2 black face.
Those with white on right side hated those with white on the left side.
Bigotry is as bigotry does
Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)I do remember that episode, where at the end, the two men were fighting each other for all of eternity.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)To hopefully make any results strong enough to quantify, the subjects used in this one were all conservative in personality.
The two imaginary groups presented were exactly the same except for the sizes of the groups. The results revealed a definite, pervasive bias against the smaller group that varied in degree from mild to whackadoodle. Some strong social conservatives actually developed a genuine antipathy toward the people in the smaller group, remembering only the approximately 1 in 3 negative things they were told about them, conveniently forgetting the outweighing positives, and coming to see them as the bad one, the larger group the good one.
I haven't heard that this study was replicated with the same results, but it is so easy to believe. Tendencies to bias are wired into us to varying degrees. The targets don't create it.
Larrybanal
(227 posts)CatMor
(6,212 posts)and he was kicked off.
Lonestarblue
(9,958 posts)The Republican plan to take over the country permanently (see Karl Roves Redmap) started with local and state elections like school boards. In Texas, past state school boards have been populated by rabid, right-wing Republicans who were not only racist, but also ignorant of education issues and interested only in forcing their views on creationism and white supremacy to textbooks. Unfortunately, they succeeded and todays history books are a white-washed version of reality. Other states refused to go along wth their fake science, so those books fared better. Todays board is a bit less rabid, but the crazy areas of Texas still have their board members. You may remember the former teacher who was running from northeast Texas in 2016 who claimed several times on her Facebook posts that Obama sold drugs and performed as a male dancer in gay sex clubs. Fortunately, she was not elected. My district has a rational Democrat on the board, or I would be tempted to run myself, even at my age.
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)Because of the size of Texas school system, textbooks that are used all over the country are created under their approval. That's an oversimplification, but it's essentially true. They are right-wing, conservative, the type of Christians who believe Jesus should be in schools and racist. It is awful and it has been this way a long time.
The only thing surprising about this OP is that the asshole said this on Twitter, not that he is a racist piece of shit. And actually, in the Trump-Twitter era, I suppose it's not surprising at all.
onetexan
(13,020 posts)At least this moron Clayton can't hurt anybody with his words...sticks & stones... De Vos is ruining the entire public school system for millions of kids throughout the country.
CatMor
(6,212 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)and always.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)How much does that Texan watch Fox or listen to right wing radio or read Breitbart?
What he said about that kid is terrible.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)hate radio and television. Disgusting. But they choose to listen so their ears can be filled with the rancid pollution they desire. No one makes them listen or watch.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Propaganda works. A lot of people dont really make a choice, they are just brainwashed. The human mind tends to believe things that it hears a lot. Thats why Fox and hate radio and Trump repeat the same lies.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)are all a choice. I had to make a conscious decision to hate or not to hate. I slip, yet I continue to have to make that decision everyday, now. Thanks for the link. Yeah they are doing the Goebbels playbook, page by page. I wrote about it pretrump. His propaganda machine was in place for years infecting those less inclined to be human and whose wishes are to remain as animals, not far from Neanderthals and their ancestors.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)of the racist dirtbag Texas state official. I can't imagine he got ahead for any other reason than he's a white male.
pandr32
(11,557 posts)The privilege runs so deep they don't even know they have it.
CrispyQ
(36,424 posts)I'm so sick of these privileged fucks shooting off their bigoted mouths.
wobblie
(61 posts)We're you elected because of your qualifications or because of white privilege?
Lucky Luciano
(11,248 posts)sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)The root issue is Republican propaganda media inciting racism in white people by telling them minorities are undeserving.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/politics/wp/2017/08/02/of-course-the-trump-justice-department-wants-to-target-affirmative-action/
padfun
(1,786 posts)They had a quota for perfect high school GP averages.
mainer
(12,018 posts)because legacy usually means white.
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sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Fox runs hundreds of segments on affirmative action, trying to get white people to hate minorities.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/politics/wp/2017/08/02/of-course-the-trump-justice-department-wants-to-target-affirmative-action/
his privilege is the quota
yurbud
(39,405 posts)the retail not wholesale price. Or maybe it's the other way around. Anyway, I bet them steaks woulda been good if they were frozen before they mailed 'em..."
OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)respond to social media that has nothing whatsoever to do w/ them? This is a California student and a Texas idiot decides to respond out of the blue? Does he not have enough opportunities in Texas to show his ass?
padah513
(2,496 posts)OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)troll social media looking for opportunities to hate? This can only be a moron w/ too much time on his hands.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)Why would an old man stalk a high school seniors acceptance to an Ivy League school?
This is wrong on so many levels. Clayton is a a very small and hate filled man.
mbusby
(823 posts)...racist geezers. Can't wait until they are all fertilizer.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)To get votes for billionaires.
Republicans: party of racism and fear and hate, all to get votes for their billionaire donors.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)GOP propaganda networks amplify racism like this, and tell white people that minorities hold them down.
If we ever want to improve racism in America, we must fight the GOP first.
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)Where you admitted by white privilege or by blocking out minorities through systemic discrimination?
BobTheSubgenius
(11,560 posts)They have quite a remarkable continuum in Texas, don't they?
Ferrets are Cool
(21,103 posts)your parents are?" FU asshole.
LeftInTX
(25,136 posts)DRoseDARs
(6,810 posts)Trolling for underage?
irisblue
(32,931 posts)He hasn't yet locked his account, twitter doing twitter has found at least one more. A young woman gained acceptance to Brown, he tweeted to her the same thing. There is so much wrong with this guy.
EDITED TO ADD
I'm not including the young woman tweet to her from him because she's not quoted in the hill article, it seems unfair to show her info w/o her permission.
rurallib
(62,386 posts)to be broadcast across Texas.
just being flippant -
PatrickforO
(14,559 posts)Racism is alive and well.
What kind of slime would suck the joy out of this kid's tweet except a fucking ku kluxer?
Well, for my part, congrats to the kid because it sounds like he is quite an achiever and he'll be a great fit at Harvard.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)He is from California.
marble falls
(57,013 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,167 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,450 posts)He only used "congrats" as his opening so he could take a dirty kick at this student.
Screw him, screw all of them, in time, the dregs like him will fall away, and the world will never miss him.
Good old Republican George Clayton, a real "education" enthusiast, as you can see.
rocktivity
(44,572 posts)Last edited Sun Dec 3, 2023, 01:42 AM - Edit history (4)
But I got credit for graduating in the top fifth of an academically reknowned high school. I graduated from the college with a B average.
I was once asked if it was "fair" that I had "taken" a spot from a student with a higher SAT score. I replied, "It must have been, since the students who got in with higher SAT scores but ended up graduating BEHIND me got to stay!"
rocktivity
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Grins
(7,199 posts)...odd situation as I had just met and was standing next to a female high school senior who wanted get into his undergrad alma mater, Stanford. She had the grades, SAT's etc., etc., so I tried to pin him down: "How can this girl get into Stanford (insert your alma mater here) when EVERY applicant has equal and terrific credentials?"
He said admissions was a whole other beast and that the people who do that work learn how to do it only after years of experience. And one of their major criteria was what you just mentioned: The admissions people KNOW all the academically great public high schools in the country. They know your school!
"They do?" I asked.
Yes. They do. That's part of their job to know the great schools or the schools that produce graduates who can come to a Stanford (insert your alma mater here) - and succeed! And that's what they want their applicants to do when the get there - succeed! And if you did well in that school, there is a good chance you may get a nod over someone else with a better SAT/ACT!
The other HUGE factor when all else appears equal? Surprised the heck out of me: The letter of recommendation! Said it was really a big deal.
But it has to be a great recommendation letter, not just a couple sentences cobbled together; 'Yeah, he's good' kind of thing, but when the writer first says "This is who I AM, and this is why I AM QUALIFIED to tell YOU that this is the candidate YOU WANT at YOUR university...", and then give examples. This letter should take a couple hours to write.
Another friend standing nearby heard this. Turns out she is on the admissions board of another large and well known university at the graduate school level, and she jumped in on the conversation. Said she once had two great applicants from the same school and it got down to the letters of recommendation. Those letters were written by the same person. They were practically word for word identical. Whoever wrote them put ZERO effort into them.
She had to reject both applicants.
MissB
(15,803 posts)Mid year junior year, the teachers are all asked for input on each kid. They meet with the counselor towards the end of the school year and give input too. The kids each have to fill out some info for the counselor and the parents do too. The counselor has the schools letter of rec all ready to go by the time they are on campus for senior year. We even see a draft of it. Its typically 2-3 pages long.
Totally makes a difference over a non-personal letter of rec.
Ukrainian Yankee
(89 posts)Yeah, it's silly to want the 50th reply, but hey, I'm not above being silly on occasion.
JI7
(89,240 posts)Grins
(7,199 posts)denbot
(9,898 posts)Gee, and a repuke, who could have guessed it.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,144 posts)He got in because he was a legacy admission (aka the quota for rich white kids).
muntrv
(14,505 posts)of merit or being talibornagain?
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)From 2011 to 2012, George Clayton was a moderate Republican member on the notoriously extreme Texas State Board of Education a voice of sanity, Texas Freedom Network board-watcher Dan Quinn once called him. Halfway through Claytons term on the board, activists on the religious right began spreading speculation about his sexuality, and Clayton issued a statement that he did, in fact, have a male partner who lives with me in my home. In his bid for re-election, which would have made him the first openly gay Texas Republican elected to such a high position, he finished last in a three-way primary. I think the party, even before the primary, was working against me, Clayton told the Observer recently. Im convinced of it.
Which...I mean, I kinda feel for him, those Texas religious bigots can be nasty, I imagine, Mr. Clayton is a hatin'...and racist.
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)This is the weakness of Affirmative Action programs at this level -- no, not that this kid got in inappropriately, but THE PERCEPTION (by many) that he got something based on race.
Me, I doubt the admissions would be materially different if they just stuck everyone in a computer and had some formula based on SAT and GPA with some cushion for more strenuous classes and extracurricular activities of note when you got the the "ties".
Such a method would eliminate the racists' argument.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I'd imagine no member (current or past) of the TX board of education ever asked that of a white student.
But I'm guessing this will be just another incident in which race is minimized or denied as a major factor.
On edit: Spoke early. No guesses necessary.
harun
(11,348 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)So tell right winger if they don't like them, they don't support the troops.
Also, do they think Einsteins like Bush and Trump got into ANY institution on merit rather than their parents bribes (er, donations)?
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)24601
(3,955 posts)small number of Executive Branch Appointment. Additionally, children of Medal of Honor recipients have an automatic appointment if they meet admission criteria. But the overwhelming number of admissions are by Congressional appointment. Members of congress may be using quotas - but how do the academies get the blame for that?