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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri May 4, 2018, 09:20 AM May 2018

Kansas bill allowing religious adoption groups to refuse LGBT couples will become law

Source: The Wichita Eagle



May 3, 2018 11:24 PM

BY JONATHAN SHORMAN

jshorman@wichitaeagle.com

TOPEKA - A bill that ensures faith-based adoption agencies can turn away gay and lesbian couples based on religious beliefs will be signed into law by Gov. Jeff Colyer.

Kansas lawmakers passed the legislation after an intense debate early Friday. One suggested the need for the legislation proves the existence of the “homosexual agenda” while another said the bill judges people.

The Senate approved the bill 24-15 at 1:51 a.m. Friday after the House passed it Thursday night, 63-58. The bill had been dormant for weeks before lawmakers revived and passed it in a matter of hours.

“Catholic Charities and other adoption agencies are key to the fabric of our communities. I look forward to signing this bill because it increases the opportunities for needy children to find loving homes,” Colyer said in a statement early Friday.

Read more: http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article210442154.html

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Kansas bill allowing religious adoption groups to refuse LGBT couples will become law (Original Post) DonViejo May 2018 OP
A very strange creepy state in so many ways. n/t RKP5637 May 2018 #1
really, and I've lived right next to KS ... SWBTATTReg May 2018 #7
I agree with everything you've said!!! There are many beautiful areas/people in KS and the RKP5637 May 2018 #8
That terrible 'Homosexual Agenda'! The Mouth May 2018 #2
It increases chances for kids to find homes?! Jedi Guy May 2018 #3
They claim that more groups will come to the State to help with adoption........ Bengus81 May 2018 #4
Reminds me of idiot Brownback's strategy. Major corporations and people would flock to KS because RKP5637 May 2018 #9
Remember these are the assholes who blindly support Trump and all his disgusting behavior. Initech May 2018 #6
They can shove their faith based beliefs up their asses. Initech May 2018 #5
Their goal is always to make people unhappy and ruin lives as best they can. Some people get RKP5637 May 2018 #10
And I always love how they describe god as a loving god. Initech May 2018 #11
Their god is so filled with hatred and so repulsive, I can't imagine anyone but a mentally RKP5637 May 2018 #13
Thst must explain why so many of them are so bitter and hate filled. Initech May 2018 #15
Yep, there are big bucks to be made in religion and hatred! n/t RKP5637 May 2018 #16
George Carlin had a line one time: Initech May 2018 #17
I loved George Carlin. I really miss him and his wisdom put in a way that it reached most people. RKP5637 May 2018 #18
Christian privilege rears its ugly head again. Behind the Aegis May 2018 #12
I often think of religion as sadism with masochistic followers. n/t RKP5637 May 2018 #14
GOP will quickly pass anything they can--unconstitutional or discrimination be damned! riversedge May 2018 #19
Lived in kansaas most of my life... Maxheader May 2018 #20
It is unconstitutional treestar May 2018 #21
Hurting kids because of bigotry. When will people wake up and see this for what it is? Nt LostOne4Ever May 2018 #22

SWBTATTReg

(22,093 posts)
7. really, and I've lived right next to KS ...
Fri May 4, 2018, 02:36 PM
May 2018

in MO (KC and Jop), NE (Lincoln) and OK, and folks lived in Topeka a while. I didn't see any of this so called hatred in any of the folks then 1950s-1970s. A lot of good folks, neighbors, etc. This very small block in KS of a Pentecostal type belief (and similar types of beliefs) have the lawmakers in KS scrambling to pass such types of laws...

Thing is, most of folks I am thinking (young ones) do leave for other states for jobs or want more urbanism around them. Thus the remaining folks in KS are generally getting older (population as a whole), I'm totally speculating here, just a thought experiment.

It's a shame, a real shame, reducing the number of available homes for orphans and the like, simply because of a religious belief discriminating against a whole group of people (of course gays are of all colors races creeds etc., a wider group than just a race, male/female, etc.). Unfortunately this whole action, instead of helping those who are being overlooked (the orphans, etc.) are being ignored. It far more important to open the floodgates and help these kids out, absolutely no question. Don't play politics w/ it.

Acceptance of the gay community has been improving for many years, and I think by now, most normal people accept these facts that diverse communities exist and in fact, welcome them. This is the same for immigrant communities, where you have an International Fair in STLMO for like 100 different ethic groups in St Louis MO. The more, the more culture you're exposed to, and for the most part, you totally enjoyed the experiences.

I imagine that it'll be overturned...sounds very unconstitutional to me, discriminating on religious belief...

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
8. I agree with everything you've said!!! There are many beautiful areas/people in KS and the
Fri May 4, 2018, 03:58 PM
May 2018

lawmakers in Kansas ruin it. Also, it's amazing what is going on in KC, MO, it's a beautiful city. It's horrible that some want to spread hatred, just horrible.

The Mouth

(3,145 posts)
2. That terrible 'Homosexual Agenda'!
Fri May 4, 2018, 09:36 AM
May 2018

Tolerance, acceptance, love, culture

Yeah, I can see how that would fucking freak out a Kansas Republican (or nearly any Republican)....

Jedi Guy

(3,180 posts)
3. It increases chances for kids to find homes?!
Fri May 4, 2018, 09:47 AM
May 2018

What the actual fuck is he babbling about? If you cut out homosexual couples who are able and willing to adopt, how does that increase the chances of a kid being adopted? Does this bill create more heterosexual couples from thin air? If you have 100 couples willing to adopt and you disqualify 10, how do the odds of adoption go up?

I just... the stupidity on display in that statement makes my brain hurt. Then again, bigotry and stupidity go together so well, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Bengus81

(6,930 posts)
4. They claim that more groups will come to the State to help with adoption........
Fri May 4, 2018, 10:30 AM
May 2018

Because they don't have to let them there liberal queers adopt.


Kind of like a law banning alcohol unless your 55+ and then claiming it will boost the economy because more liquor stores will open.

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
9. Reminds me of idiot Brownback's strategy. Major corporations and people would flock to KS because
Fri May 4, 2018, 04:01 PM
May 2018

of what he did to Kansas. Yep, that worked out well, he almost totally destroyed KS financially.

Initech

(100,054 posts)
6. Remember these are the assholes who blindly support Trump and all his disgusting behavior.
Fri May 4, 2018, 10:51 AM
May 2018

You can't question their logic, or lack thereof. It will make your head hurt.

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
10. Their goal is always to make people unhappy and ruin lives as best they can. Some people get
Fri May 4, 2018, 04:04 PM
May 2018

hooked on drugs. The religious fundamentalists get hooked on hatred.

Initech

(100,054 posts)
11. And I always love how they describe god as a loving god.
Fri May 4, 2018, 04:08 PM
May 2018

But then they describe themselves as "god fearing". So which is it? Before you're baptized god is a loving god, and then afterwards he becomes your racist, abusive uncle?

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
13. Their god is so filled with hatred and so repulsive, I can't imagine anyone but a mentally
Fri May 4, 2018, 05:34 PM
May 2018

disturbed person wanting any contact, obedience and in fact knowledge.

Initech

(100,054 posts)
15. Thst must explain why so many of them are so bitter and hate filled.
Fri May 4, 2018, 06:42 PM
May 2018

That they need to take their own self loathing out on others. They got sold something that turned out to not be exactly what they wanted. Most preachers are con artists, so that must be why they love Trump.

Initech

(100,054 posts)
17. George Carlin had a line one time:
Fri May 4, 2018, 07:38 PM
May 2018

"God is all knowing, all powerful, but he just can't handle money!!! God's got a huge money problem!"

RKP5637

(67,101 posts)
18. I loved George Carlin. I really miss him and his wisdom put in a way that it reached most people.
Fri May 4, 2018, 07:42 PM
May 2018

riversedge

(70,175 posts)
19. GOP will quickly pass anything they can--unconstitutional or discrimination be damned!
Sat May 5, 2018, 06:47 AM
May 2018



...The Senate approved the bill 24-15 at 1:51 a.m. Friday after the House passed it Thursday night, 63-58. The bill had been dormant for weeks before lawmakers revived and passed it in a matter of hours.


“Catholic Charities and other adoption agencies are key to the fabric of our communities. I look forward to signing this bill because it increases the opportunities for needy children to find loving homes,” Colyer said in a statement early Friday.

Maxheader

(4,371 posts)
20. Lived in kansaas most of my life...
Sat May 5, 2018, 07:57 AM
May 2018

There has always been a little intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries,
they have a hard time with the words...freedom, democracy, common sense....
Not all...fear of change, all these things in all people everywhere, most of us can see through
the bs.....but in some places
people are influenced by the voices for the 1%ers and the media. AM stations, during
the obama days, were nothing more than conservative psyco babble...from both the
news side and christian ads. Get enough of this total bombardment of untruths and
stupidity, 24 - 7...it changes people. Brownback is a good example of unbridled
bullshit concerning kansaas economic needs and ultrarigthwing religious fanaticism.
Brownbutt showed that fanaticism through "sacrifice of the people" policies..Its
good for the lower classes to sacrifice for the good of everyone...the rich
fucks platform..

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