Cuomo calls for NY attorney general's resignation amid abuse allegations

[pnwmom]

Source: The Hill

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) called for the state's Attorney General Eric Schneiderman (D) to resign on Monday after four women accused him of abuse.

"I do not believe it is possible for Eric Schneiderman to continue to serve as attorney general, and for the good of the office, he should resign," Cuomo said in his statement.

"No one is above the law, including New York's top legal officer. I will be asking the appropriate New York District Attorney(s) to commence an immediate investigation and proceed as the facts merit," he said.


Cuomo's call for Schneiderman to resign comes on the heels of a New Yorker report, which detailed the accusations against the attorney general from four women.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/386629-cuomo-calls-for-ny-attorney-generals-resignation-amid-abuse-allegations

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ON MSNBC, Rachel will be interviewing Jane Mayer, one of the reporters on the New Yorker story.

[Wawannabe]

1. Well

That’s pretty fast!

[PoliticAverse]

2. Cuomo and Schneiderman have repeatedly been at odds over the years, this is not surprising. n/t

[George II]

17. "At odds" is a nice way of saying it. They've been virtual enemies.

[bucolic_frolic]

3. This is a very important AG position

if there is substance to the charges, they need to put this in the rear view mirror - fast

[Iliyah]

4. No one is above the law.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. All are innocent until proven guilty. Some are fired without legal proceedings or forced to resign.

"No one is above the law" means that anyone can be charged after appropriate procedure, which requires evidence that may include testimony. It also means that they can only be convicted with due process, if they are found guilty. Until then ALL people are presumed innocent before the law.

"No one is above the law" does NOT apply to extra-judicial actions such as firings or pressure to resign.

I do not know what is best or appropriate here. One thing is certain though: It is difficult for women to come forward publicly with allegations such as these and attach their names. When they do, they should be listened to with careful consideration. Not necessarily instantly believed but provisionally given credence.

[Delphinus]

30. True,

but as did NOT happen with Franken, an investigation needs to take place. This guy has done what he could to circumvent some of the bad things Trump has done.

[Fullduplexxx]

5. Well no one is above the law they are also innocent until proven guilty

[pnwmom]

6. True. But while he works to resolve this, he should step down. n/t

[Bernardo de La Paz]

25. Step down eq resign. The End. Step aside means stop work, allow investigation, maybe return maybe no

[pnwmom]

32. Well, he knows whether he's guilty. If he's absolutely innocent, he could just step aside.

But I'm doubtful. And he's only enough to just retire and save everyone a lot of agony.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

37. I'm in general agreement with this post of yours. . . . nt

[Iliyah]

7. AG's position, he needs to resign and an investigation

commerce. I'm pretty sure most legal experts would agree.

[PoliticAverse]

9. If the charges are false do you think he should resign? n/t

[George II]

15. I think Cuomo is looking at this backward. Shouldn't an investigation happen BEFORE resignation?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

22. That would be my general approach. But stepping aside seems to be advisable while it proceeds. . .nt

[George II]

23. Who knows, maybe that's the ultimate objective? Even if the allegations prove either false or....

....not as serious as claimed, Schneiderman is still out of office.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

26. Step down eq resign. The End. Step aside means stop work, allow investigation, maybe return maybe no

[George II]

29. According to the headline, that's not what Cuomo is calling for.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

35. Exactly. So please dont equate "step aside" with "step down". Cuomo wants him to step down (resign)

To me it looks like he should step aside (take some kind of leave of absence until this is investigated and there is greater resolution).

On edit: I've been made aware there is the election for NY AG in November. Therefore he should step aside only if he is sure it can be resolved quickly in his favor; otherwise resign, effective the date of the election or of the swearing in of the new AG-elect. If this drags into the campaign he is likely to lose which would be bad for the Party and for chances of making Trump subject to the Rule of Law.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

16. What if he is innocent?

If so, this situation would leave the door open to any fringe group to do a setup to bring down any powerful figure they don't like. That was done to a degree to Senator Franken.

The hangover of this is New York losing a lot of legal experience and disruption of cases. If he's guilty, I couldn't agree more.

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[George II]

28. Exactly. Since their is a claim that at least one received medical attention....

....this could be proven in a day or two based on medical records.

Why rush into this?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

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If you are replying to a post (such as #4?) please hit Reply To This Post button for that post, not the Original Post. This helps avoid disjointed discussions.

[Iliyah]

8. It also show the RESPECT for the rule of law

something this present administration care nothing about.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

18. The Rule of Law requires Due Process which means Investigation, Charging, Trying & maybe Convicting

At this point, this is all extra-judicial and has not invoked any Law yet. Perhaps it never will.

[pnwmom]

39. Yes, and all that will happen, if necessary. But there is an election for A.G. in November

and Schneiderman is not the person to be representing the party in that election.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

47. Correct, unless this almost instantly resolves resounding in his favor. Unlikely. . . . nt

[Fiendish Thingy]

10. He's made some powerful enemies. Nt

[fountainofyouth]

11. This needs to happen pronto

Worse than being a hypocrite, he is a dangerous man. He may cause a life-threatening injury if he doesn't figure some shit out.

[George II]

13. Cuomo is calling for Schneiderman to resign, and THEN an investigation to begin....

...and proceed as the facts merit?

[pnwmom]

19. Can you imagine him being an effective AG if he remains in office

while an investigation is conducted?

Can you imagine him being re-elected in November?

[warmfeet]

20. The timing of this seems a bit convenient to me.

Anyone else thinking the same? Probably just me. ¯_(ツ _/¯

[pnwmom]

21. Rachel said she'll be speaking to one of the reporters tonight.

But I think the #metoo movement has affected millions of women.

[Botany]

24. I smell a Franken all over this

RAT FUCKING

[dalton99a]

31. +1. The timing is highly suspicious

to say the least

[fountainofyouth]

27. Have you actually read the story?

There's nothing "convenient" for anyone in this story.

[dflprincess]

38. I have not read the story yet

and so I remain skeptical. Whether I will be or not after I read it remains to be seen.

Seasoned, experienced reporters have fallen for less salacious stories and Cuomo & Gilligran both seem awfully anxious to jump on this bandwagon and I don't trust either of them.

[fountainofyouth]

43. I appreciate your honesty

I think you will find it hard to conclude this is a "hit job." The article cites numerous people on the record, by name -- even Salman Rushdie! The reporters saw photographs and medical records, spoke to doctors and friends. And Schneiderman's denial is extremely weak.

[dflprincess]

45. That is certainly telling

and listening to Rachel and hearing these began as consensual, dating relationships does go a ways in making me rethink my first post (see another post I added downstream) even without reading the article (which I will still do, but not so much because I need convincing now.) Amazing how fast Rachel & what you added can make a person rethink something.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

49. Convenient for Trump & Giuliani. Convenient for many RepubliCon narratives. . . . nt

[Kajun Gal]

33. Men really need to get their shit together and keep their weanie in their pants!

ALL men! Both sides of the aisle!

[JoeOtterbein]

34. Yep!

A little discipline is definitely in order! I did it for 62 years, they can too!

[PoliticAverse]

36. This is about what a man did or did not do with his hand not his "weanie". n/t

[fountainofyouth]

40. Yes, and also his words

His various comments that demeaned his partners -- about their weight or tattoos or whatnot.

[Bradshaw3]

41. Agree but this is about physical abuse of girlfriends

It still points to how screwed up so many males are. I write that as a male but it makes me shake my head at the actions of of so many that are just beyond how anyone should treat another person.

[dflprincess]

42. This sounds like it all happened in the context of what began as consensual relationships

where things took a bad turn.

If that's the case, it may serve to quell my skepticism about the timing.

[Liberalhammer]

44. Lets Destroy Each Other, We are suckers

Yup.

Bring out the daggers.

Who needs the Russians or republicans?

Right now nothing has been verified... Its a far cry between the verification of Trumps assaults on women, an AG investigating Cohen, and a well developed ops operation against democrats and progressives in power full positions.

It doesn't matter if it's true or not, it only matters if it can do damage. Seen it in my state and my city. I'll eat my words if it turns out 100% true, but I think as we find out more, the damage will already be done.

Bait and switch.

[rockfordfile]

46. Now I would like to hear the same for Trump

Come on Cuomo do the same for Trump.

[PoliticAverse]

48. Schneiderman announces his resignation...

https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/statement-attorney-general-eric-t-schneiderman

“It’s been my great honor and privilege to serve as Attorney General for the people of the State of New York. In the last several hours, serious allegations, which I strongly contest, have been made against me. While these allegations are unrelated to my professional conduct or the operations of the office, they will effectively prevent me from leading the office’s work at this critical time. I therefore resign my office, effective at the close of business on May 8, 2018.”

[Bernardo de La Paz]

50. Yes. DU thread:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142054670