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bucolic_frolic

(43,144 posts)
Tue May 8, 2018, 05:08 PM May 2018

Michael Avenatti, after significant investigation ...

Source: via Twitter

After significant investigation, we have discovered that Mr. Trump’s atty Mr. Cohen received approximately $500,000 in the mos. after the election from a company controlled by a Russian Oligarc with close ties to Mr. Putin. These monies may have reimbursed the $130k payment.

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Michael Avenatti, after significant investigation ... (Original Post) bucolic_frolic May 2018 OP
This is interesting Gothmog May 2018 #1
For additional information from Avenatti and Associates bucolic_frolic May 2018 #2
Is this the Russian who went to his inaugeration? BigmanPigman May 2018 #3
I don't knowwwww, but if so, it would be Viktor Vekselberg Leghorn21 May 2018 #8
That's the guy I was thinking of! BigmanPigman May 2018 #9
Yeah, wouldn't it be sweet if it turned out to be him!! But there are so many to pick from Leghorn21 May 2018 #12
CNN just said it IS him! BigmanPigman May 2018 #17
YEP!! All hail Mr. Mueller & Co. and Stormy Daniels and one Michael Avenatti!!! Leghorn21 May 2018 #18
Where There Is Smoke, There Is Fire Progressive2020 May 2018 #63
Yes, yes, and OH HELL YEAH, 2020!! My brain is 'sploding here tonight!! Leghorn21 May 2018 #65
Yes Progressive2020 May 2018 #66
Wait, what? Tommy_Carcetti May 2018 #4
Avenatti is following the money trail bucolic_frolic May 2018 #15
I'd suspect the Mueller investigation knows all of this also, but has chosen to stay quiet groundloop May 2018 #19
All thumbs up on this one! bucolic_frolic May 2018 #21
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 Wawannabe May 2018 #61
lol bucolic_frolic May 2018 #62
K&R. Somebody should Tweet your statement to Trump.. KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #47
lol bucolic_frolic May 2018 #48
A profusion of collusion confusion lagomorph777 May 2018 #74
Tommy - that's a good read. Sometimes the slime goes unnoticed erronis May 2018 #27
It's the little things, I swear... Volaris May 2018 #50
Every one of those money sources is bad news for Pres. Turd lagomorph777 May 2018 #73
Discovery???? longship May 2018 #5
This would explain why Giulani was blabbing all over the place that Trump was paying grantcart May 2018 #6
It's called getting out in front of a story Major Nikon May 2018 #78
Payments from a Russian oligarch? Who ever could have guessed? Jim__ May 2018 #7
Here's my take (briefly) SayItLoud May 2018 #10
I think you are onto something. Tommy_Carcetti May 2018 #14
Boy, I sure hope Mr. Avenatti has got a crack security team and bodyguards! Texin May 2018 #11
Oh snap shenmue May 2018 #13
the russians are paying to shut up republican Dirty Donny*s prostitutes? Achilleaze May 2018 #16
WERE paying..... I'd think it would suit their purpose now for Spanky to fall groundloop May 2018 #20
That part was strictly the "discretionary" money world wide wally May 2018 #22
Okay...CNN lead right now is that Mueller is interviewing Rusher Oligarch re paymnts to Cohen. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #23
Is he that wealthy? bucolic_frolic May 2018 #24
I changed my post. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #26
Forbes says 14.4 billion Leghorn21 May 2018 #40
Mueller! .99center May 2018 #30
Not at all! Honeycombe8 May 2018 #31
Mueller doesn't leak. .99center May 2018 #39
Southern District of New York might be leaking MaryMagdaline May 2018 #57
Or Avenatti got it through discovery? lagomorph777 May 2018 #75
Here is the CNN story about that. pnwmom May 2018 #25
+1. Wow. This is huge news. If I saw this is a movie, I wouldn't believe it. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #28
Michael Avenatti.... FarPoint May 2018 #29
Avenatti just came out of nowhere! Honeycombe8 May 2018 #32
I believe he was being groomed for this time in life... FarPoint May 2018 #33
Impressive! I bet he has the women in a long line trying to get to him.... Honeycombe8 May 2018 #70
He's been around a while csziggy May 2018 #60
Will do. Thanks. nt Honeycombe8 May 2018 #71
The fool did nothing more than repeat a CNN story. He needs to go away already. Trust Buster May 2018 #34
Excuse me???? FarPoint May 2018 #35
He has reached the point of meddling with a federal investigation for reasons of self promotion. Trust Buster May 2018 #36
I believe the Mueller Team is not with that opinion. FarPoint May 2018 #37
I have no idea how you can reach such a conclusion. Trust Buster May 2018 #38
Just be thankful he's working FOR us Heartstrings May 2018 #43
I think he is a self promoter. I have zero fealty for this guy. Trust Buster May 2018 #44
On what pretense? Heartstrings May 2018 #45
My gut. I don't trust him or his motives. Never have. Trust Buster May 2018 #46
Motives, huh? Heartstrings May 2018 #49
He is always on television dropping coy inferences. Trust Buster May 2018 #51
Such as? Heartstrings May 2018 #53
Who is on the same team ? Trust Buster May 2018 #55
Ummmm.... Heartstrings May 2018 #56
Avenatti Progressive2020 May 2018 #64
Well said..,, Heartstrings May 2018 #67
Thank You Progressive2020 May 2018 #68
Avenatti was the first person to report this bombshell. OliverQ May 2018 #42
I tend to side with you a bit. KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #69
Exuberence??? LakeArenal May 2018 #76
No, I don't think so. The CNN story was separate, and after Avenatti. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #72
From my twitter feed Gothmog May 2018 #41
This is it.... Sancho May 2018 #59
End run around Mr. Mueller, now Mueller has to release the hounds. sarcasmo May 2018 #52
With the resources Mueller has, imagine what his team is digging up. AJT May 2018 #54
Tip of the iceberg... Sancho May 2018 #58
Is Avenatti saying... Cracklin Charlie May 2018 #77
Any more breaking news on this expose? at140 Oct 2018 #79

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
8. I don't knowwwww, but if so, it would be Viktor Vekselberg
Tue May 8, 2018, 05:31 PM
May 2018

who attended that Moscow dinner in 2015 with Flynn, Stein, Putin etc, was at LOSER45’s inauguration and also had electronics seized by FBI briefly at (NYC?) airport a month or so ago

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/04/us/politics/viktor-vekselberg-mueller-investigation.html

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
12. Yeah, wouldn't it be sweet if it turned out to be him!! But there are so many to pick from
Tue May 8, 2018, 05:50 PM
May 2018

(Roman Abramovich, Dmitry Rybolovlev, Oleg Deripaska come to mind) - but I bet there are literally hundreds of these mobsters with their hands all up in trumpfuckistan -

Weather forecast:

Stormy with a chance of treason/conspiracy/ETC, muthafukkahs

Progressive2020

(713 posts)
63. Where There Is Smoke, There Is Fire
Tue May 8, 2018, 11:16 PM
May 2018

If Cohen received payoffs from Russian Oligarachs for unknown purposes, it might only be one step away from Collusion/Conspiracy for Trump. A smoking gun.

It is amazing to me that a sitting President may be taken down by an Adult Film Actress and her tenacious Attorney. Life is stranger than fiction sometimes.

I can't wait for Trump to be convicted of Collusion. When they drag him away in handcuffs, I hope they replay every time this Clown said "No Collusion", the Mantra of an Idiot. Time is nearly up, you Orange Imbecile!

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
65. Yes, yes, and OH HELL YEAH, 2020!! My brain is 'sploding here tonight!!
Tue May 8, 2018, 11:35 PM
May 2018

Stormy and Michael, who could imagine such beguiling characters?!?!!

Progressive2020

(713 posts)
66. Yes
Tue May 8, 2018, 11:42 PM
May 2018

Amazing. Let us try to keep our brains in our skulls here! Thanks for posting that document above. Trump's goose may be cooked.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
4. Wait, what?
Tue May 8, 2018, 05:14 PM
May 2018

Come now again?

The fact that Donald Trump once screwed a porn star may be the one thing that saved this republic from devastation.

bucolic_frolic

(43,144 posts)
15. Avenatti is following the money trail
Tue May 8, 2018, 05:55 PM
May 2018

linking Russian money and oligarchs to Cohen to Trump Campaign to pornstar affair/payments

It's all connected!!! This is bigger than it seems. It's all a giant collusion profusion.

And yes, it is Vekselberg, Twitter right now is abuzz with his links to Wilbur Ross in running a failed bank in Cyprus

So the spider's web of contacts is growing exponentially by the hour





David Corn
?Verified account @DavidCornDC

Viktor Vekselberg--whom @MichaelAvenatti claims gave $500K to @MichaelCohen212 --was a partner with Wilbur Ross in a Cyprus bank once sloshing with shady Russian money.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
19. I'd suspect the Mueller investigation knows all of this also, but has chosen to stay quiet
Tue May 8, 2018, 06:09 PM
May 2018

But yeah, wouldn't it be sweet sweet karma if Spanky were brought down by a porn star?

Wawannabe

(5,656 posts)
61. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Tue May 8, 2018, 10:18 PM
May 2018

When I am using my phone to access DU I have access to my emojis - maybe you could try that? 👍🤓

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
47. K&R. Somebody should Tweet your statement to Trump..
Tue May 8, 2018, 07:30 PM
May 2018
"It's all a giant collusion profusion."

That would keep him tongue-tied for a week!

........ ............

erronis

(15,241 posts)
27. Tommy - that's a good read. Sometimes the slime goes unnoticed
Tue May 8, 2018, 06:41 PM
May 2018

Until someone with some clout actually slips in it and gets mad.

I think dump's screwing around and lying will make a slug's slime-trail look insignificant (no dis to the the slugs!!!)

I hope we can catch the rest of the s-balls in this mess.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
50. It's the little things, I swear...
Tue May 8, 2018, 07:37 PM
May 2018

There was a story linked in here one day about how ST:V's Seven of Nine got Barrack Obama elected...
Apparently, she was married to some Illinois State rep who wanted to have an open marraige, and she declined and filed for divorce. When word got out about why, he decided not to run again...and that seat went to Barrack Obama instead (from there, he was elected to his Senate Seat, etc.)

So yeah, I get what you're sayin. If it weren't for Donald Trump's penis, where oh where would this country be headed lol???

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
73. Every one of those money sources is bad news for Pres. Turd
Wed May 9, 2018, 10:15 AM
May 2018

AT&T has huge business before the US Government (merger with Time Warner)

Novartis has been hammered in a giant bribery scandal in Greece, and forced to pay $390 million in a settlement for a US Government Civil Fraud suit

The Russian oligarch? Pretty obvious problem there

Korean arms manufacturer - in a situation Pres. Turd is personally stirring up every day, obviously to the benefit of Korean arms makers.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
6. This would explain why Giulani was blabbing all over the place that Trump was paying
Tue May 8, 2018, 05:21 PM
May 2018

Cohen $ 35k a month etc etc


Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
78. It's called getting out in front of a story
Wed May 9, 2018, 01:25 PM
May 2018

Now that Cohen's financial records have been split wide open, we are going to discover all sorts of things about the Trumpco® shenanigans. We are going to find out how numerous Trump dalliances have been hushed and how the hush money flowed through quid pro quo arrangements. In the coming weeks we are going to learn about Trump's real relationship with Shera Bechard and the story behind that deal is going to be even better.

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
10. Here's my take (briefly)
Tue May 8, 2018, 05:35 PM
May 2018

E. Warren nailed tRUMP as a money grubber. D. Faranhold won Pulitzer uncovering fake charities and foundations in the name of tRUMP.

tRUMP: bragged that he was self funding his campaign. How about this?

Russian Oligarchs flow money into Cohen who flows it to tRUMP who then *funds* his campaign. So, at the end of the day tRUMP is funding his campaign but with $ from Putin's boys.

Oh, and had Houston gotten the *million of my own money* from tRUMP ?

And, is he donating his salary to charity every month?


If he's not bragging about it I doubt it.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
14. I think you are onto something.
Tue May 8, 2018, 05:53 PM
May 2018

Thanks for bringing up David Fahrenthold and his investigation into the phony Trump Foundation.

I paid close attention to his reporting during the election (remember the self-portrait he bought with Foundation funds for $20,000) but it all got pushed aside as all the craziness accumulated.

Looking back, I'm pretty sure that the Trump Foundation was nothing but a slush fund for laundering Russian money.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
16. the russians are paying to shut up republican Dirty Donny*s prostitutes?
Tue May 8, 2018, 06:01 PM
May 2018

That sucks.

* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
20. WERE paying..... I'd think it would suit their purpose now for Spanky to fall
Tue May 8, 2018, 06:12 PM
May 2018

Putin would, of course, continue to deny any involvement while at the same time be laughing his ass off at the chaos he's caused in the US.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
23. Okay...CNN lead right now is that Mueller is interviewing Rusher Oligarch re paymnts to Cohen.
Tue May 8, 2018, 06:22 PM
May 2018

Guess that's what Avenatti is referring to.

Holy Crap. This is BIG.

This couldn't get more curious and complicated. Guest on MSNBC, Ari's show, says if true, this might well prove collusion, using social media to sway the election, the whole ball of wax.

This is YUGE news, if true. Wow.

(Is someone important leaking info to Avenatti? Hmmmmm.)

bucolic_frolic

(43,144 posts)
24. Is he that wealthy?
Tue May 8, 2018, 06:34 PM
May 2018

Well who knows, but his bio lists cases he's settled, some in the hundreds of millions of dollars. With legal researchers available around the globe, and attorneys probably willing to work cheaply or even pro bono, following the paper trail might be $100 to $500+ an hour plus filing costs, phones, incidentals? Maybe $50k or so?

Here's a link to the 7 page summary.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pskgpwr15r48tx5/Executive%20Summary.pdf?dl=0

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
26. I changed my post.
Tue May 8, 2018, 06:41 PM
May 2018

I saw on CNN that Mueller is interviewing that Russian oligarch about payments to Cohen. So it looks like Avenatti may have gotten that info that way, in some way. He cites specific amounts.

If this is true...this is YUGE. One of the inner circle, Trump's personal atty & working for the Trump Org., taking money from a Russian oligarch, & possibly using some of that money to "take care" of a problem that might hurt Trump's election (the porn star). Wow.

If I were Cohen, I'd be afraid. Very afraid.

.99center

(1,237 posts)
30. Mueller!
Tue May 8, 2018, 06:45 PM
May 2018

Mueller's leaking again!


Thank's for editing your post, it looked like you were implying that Avenatti was involved in a conspiracy of some sort.

We have to stay focused on the real culprit, Mueller.



Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
31. Not at all!
Tue May 8, 2018, 06:48 PM
May 2018

I was asking an obvious question, and one that Trump's people would ask loud & clear on nat'l tv.

That he got it from Mueller makes more sense, and stops any such conspiracy "deep state" theories.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
28. +1. Wow. This is huge news. If I saw this is a movie, I wouldn't believe it.
Tue May 8, 2018, 06:42 PM
May 2018

If true, this ties the Russians directly to Trump's inner circle, the Trump Org., and Trump himself. Wow.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
32. Avenatti just came out of nowhere!
Tue May 8, 2018, 06:49 PM
May 2018

Where did this guy come from???? Sort of like "Where have you been all my life?!!?"

FarPoint

(12,351 posts)
33. I believe he was being groomed for this time in life...
Tue May 8, 2018, 06:52 PM
May 2018

He has an impressive resume...Worked on Joe Biden Campaign, went to Law School..I think in DC at George Washington.. he's beaten tRump before in some other litigation...is a racecar driver...

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
70. Impressive! I bet he has the women in a long line trying to get to him....
Wed May 9, 2018, 07:14 AM
May 2018

if he's not married. Because he's attractive, too!

But he's so on point, sharp, articulate, passionate....he's a great advocate. HOW did Stormy find him? Can't wait to see the movie or read the book about that.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
60. He's been around a while
Tue May 8, 2018, 09:41 PM
May 2018

Check out http://www.avenatti.com/bio

Also, read his Wikipedia entry. I can't post excerpts from my tablet but Avenatti is a brilliant litigator.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
36. He has reached the point of meddling with a federal investigation for reasons of self promotion.
Tue May 8, 2018, 06:58 PM
May 2018

He needs to step back and stop inserting himself in the story. That is as nice as I can say that.

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
49. Motives, huh?
Tue May 8, 2018, 07:32 PM
May 2018

Ok, I'll roll with that....

I trust him in my gut, and have not the slightest thought of any "motive"....he's already famous and wealthy from prior high profile prosecutions, race car pursuits, so what would his motives be?

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
53. Such as?
Tue May 8, 2018, 07:42 PM
May 2018

Examples of his "coy references".

You do realize anything having to do with Cohen is going to have joint scrutiny with Mueller and Avenatti...they're on the same team.

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
56. Ummmm....
Tue May 8, 2018, 07:47 PM
May 2018

Everyone investigating trump. They may not work out of the same "office" but they're both working for the greater good, which is follow the money and take down IQ45....

Progressive2020

(713 posts)
64. Avenatti
Tue May 8, 2018, 11:32 PM
May 2018

Avenatti is pursuing a Civil Case against Trump for his Client. It is his perfect right to do so. Mueller and his Team are pursuing potential criminal activities. This private, civil pursuit (Avanatti/Daniels) is running in parallel to the Mueller Probe (Government/Criminal Investigation). This often happens in the law- a potential crime can also be pursued in Civil Law for damages.

Avenatti has a responsibility to his client to pursue the matter as effectively as possible, and I think that he is doing this. He is obviously a skilled laywer who is also skilled at prosecuting the case in the media, which is also necessary given the profile and national implications of this case.

So, I question anyone who does not support Avenatti, who is working to stop Trump. I agree with Heartstrings and others who respect what Avenatti is doing, which is his job.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
42. Avenatti was the first person to report this bombshell.
Tue May 8, 2018, 07:18 PM
May 2018

Other organizations like The Daily Beast later confirmed his story.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
69. I tend to side with you a bit.
Wed May 9, 2018, 05:38 AM
May 2018

My concern is that in Avenatti exuberance, he could somehow compromise Mueller's investigation. I doubt that Avenatti is revealing anything Mueller is unaware of, although he appears to be getting info from leaks.

Robert Mueller is playing an extremely complex game here (including sensitivity of politics), and leaks of evidence could hurt his logical process for prosecution AND hurt his chances for reaching plea deals.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
76. Exuberence???
Wed May 9, 2018, 11:22 AM
May 2018

He’s steel. Because he has a pleasant friendly demeanor? He’s full of energy true.
But that energy is focused, professional with a lot of confidence in what he’s doing.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
72. No, I don't think so. The CNN story was separate, and after Avenatti.
Wed May 9, 2018, 07:23 AM
May 2018

If you watch the talking heads & journalists, they're stating that this didn't come from a journalist, so they are saying "alleged" until they have a chance to verify what Avenatti says about the money to Cohen from Russian oligarch. One pundit said it seemed like someone leaked some information to Avenatti.

Why would you want him to go away, when he's being very effective pursuing his case against a mob boss? The mob boss has the biggest pulpit in the world and uses it effectively, including to tear down Avenatti's client. So I think Avenatti uses the media to try to counter that....to get ahead of the insulted and defamation against his client, and to win public opinion. If he didn't, the public would have a different opinion of Stormy and probably would not understand what went on here.

I do think he may be carrying it too far. He's been on a media blitz for some time. But I guess you can't argue with success. He's been successful in his goals, so far. Trump & Ghouliani have been unsuccessful in trying to counter him, probably because he's so aggressive and he's truthful and has facts on his side.

AJT

(5,240 posts)
54. With the resources Mueller has, imagine what his team is digging up.
Tue May 8, 2018, 07:42 PM
May 2018

The rich and corporations are swimming in a cesspool of corruption.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
77. Is Avenatti saying...
Wed May 9, 2018, 11:35 AM
May 2018

That oligarch repaid Cohen’s (Stormy) expenditure on Trump’s behalf?

How is that not collusion?

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