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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,393 posts)
Tue May 15, 2018, 04:46 PM May 2018

Trump administration preparing to shelter migrant children on military bases

Source: Washington Post

National Security

Trump administration preparing to shelter migrant children on military bases

By Nick Miroff and Paul Sonne May 15 at 1:43 PM Email the author

nick.miroff@washpost.com; paul.sonne@washpost.com

The Trump administration is making preparations to warehouse migrant children on military bases, according to Defense Department communications, the latest sign the government is moving forward with plans to split up families who cross the border illegally.

According to an email notification sent to Pentagon staffers, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) will make site visits at four military installations in Texas and Arkansas during the next two weeks to evaluate their suitability for child shelters.

The bases would be used to hold minors under age 18 who arrive at the border without an adult relative or after the government has separated them from their parents. HHS is the government agency responsible for providing minors with foster care until another adult relative can assume custody.

The email characterized the site visits as a preliminary assessment. "No decisions have been made at this time," it states.
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Nick Miroff covers drug trafficking, border security and transnational crime on The Washington Post’s National Security desk. He was a Post foreign correspondent in Latin America from 2010 to 2017, and has been a staff writer since 2006. Follow @NickMiroff

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Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-administration-preparing-to-shelter-migrant-children-on-military-bases/2018/05/15/f8103356-584e-11e8-b656-a5f8c2a9295d_story.html



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Trump admin is preparing to put migrant children in warehouses on military bases after separating them from their families.


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Trump administration preparing to shelter migrant children on military bases (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves May 2018 OP
Jesus Christ on a trailer hitch Hekate May 2018 #1
Unbelievable! Mountain Mule May 2018 #3
Why take kids away from their parents ? left-of-center2012 May 2018 #2
Punishment and deterrent. lapfog_1 May 2018 #10
Devil's Advocate here... Kotya May 2018 #13
True that. mahatmakanejeeves May 2018 #16
Also according to Sessions ripcord May 2018 #20
So they can get started early on their basic training? They_Live May 2018 #4
Once again I find myself saying, BigmanPigman May 2018 #5
Taking kids from their parents. Does it get any lower than that? Vinca May 2018 #6
Okay, so they are looking for buildings for this misadventure. pazzyanne May 2018 #7
Then there is a matter of constitutionality of separating families. pazzyanne May 2018 #8
Where is this in the Constitution? mahatmakanejeeves May 2018 #15
Thanks for the welcome, mahatmakanejeeves. pazzyanne May 2018 #19
Well, that's one way to go, to stop immigration. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #9
This was exactly the plot of Madam Secretary t FailureToCommunicate May 2018 #11
..."shelter" the children on military bases? WestMichRad May 2018 #12
Or how about . . . Haggis for Breakfast May 2018 #17
KP duty. rickford66 May 2018 #14
No peds in the military, eh? Corgigal May 2018 #18

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
10. Punishment and deterrent.
Tue May 15, 2018, 06:29 PM
May 2018

And if this doesn't work... put the kids in concentration camps and starve them!

 

Kotya

(235 posts)
13. Devil's Advocate here...
Tue May 15, 2018, 06:54 PM
May 2018

...If the parents can't prove the kids are theirs, law enforcement will look at minors being smuggled across the border as a human trafficking issue.

ripcord

(5,334 posts)
20. Also according to Sessions
Tue May 15, 2018, 11:47 PM
May 2018

The parents are going to be charged with illegal entry which is a misdemeanor so they will be held in jails where the kids can't be held.

They_Live

(3,231 posts)
4. So they can get started early on their basic training?
Tue May 15, 2018, 05:04 PM
May 2018

I guess? Won't it cost more to care for them? And it's inhumane.

pazzyanne

(6,547 posts)
7. Okay, so they are looking for buildings for this misadventure.
Tue May 15, 2018, 05:19 PM
May 2018

I have news for these billionaires: it takes more than a building to care for these kids. Where are the caretakers going to come from? Will they put these children in barracks? Will the children get nurturing or do we just scare the living daylights out them. I hope the ACLU is all over this and the human rights violations it will create.

pazzyanne

(6,547 posts)
8. Then there is a matter of constitutionality of separating families.
Tue May 15, 2018, 05:22 PM
May 2018

"The Trump administration is attempting to do the exact same thing (separating immigrant families), and it is also unconstitutional for similar reasons. First, our constitution does not allow the government to punish one person solely in an attempt to alter the behavior of someone else. Second, there is absolutely no evidence that separating families will deter more families from coming. I have worked with detained families for over three years and the vast majority of them are asylum seekers fleeing persecution in their home country.

Parents do not voluntarily take their children from their home, school, friends, and family, on a long and dangerous journey through crime-ridden countries, without very good reason. Even if parents hear that the U.S. government is separating families, for many parents the most important thing is that their children are safe. In fact, one of the reasons that parents travel with their children is to protect them on the journey. As one asylum seeker explained to me, ‘‘if you have a 50 percent chance of surviving if you leave your country but you will definitely be killed if you stay, the choice to make the journey is easy.’’

The Trump administration completely fails to grasp the danger that these families are facing in their countries. The administration also fails to understand that our asylum laws exist to protect people, and that they require that those seeking asylum have a chance to apply for protection.

Forcing a parent to give up their child into the custody of the Health and Human Services (HHS) is an illegal form of coercion intended to prevent both that family and future families from accessing their right to seek asylum."

Of course, tRump and his minion do not get this. Deplorable is too nice a word to describe these monsters.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,393 posts)
15. Where is this in the Constitution?
Tue May 15, 2018, 08:54 PM
May 2018
First, our constitution does not allow the government to punish one person solely in an attempt to alter the behavior of someone else.

The IRS does this all the time. Every spring, there are prominent arrests for tax evasion. The point is to remind people not to cheat on their taxes.

Similarly, knowing that other people have been arrested for committing homicide, speeding, and using heroin will most certainly cause me to have second thoughts about engaging in those activities.

Thanks for writing. Welcome to DU.

pazzyanne

(6,547 posts)
19. Thanks for the welcome, mahatmakanejeeves.
Tue May 15, 2018, 10:48 PM
May 2018

The information I quoted in my post is from The Hill.

http://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/366797-separating-immigrant-families-is-unconstitutional

"In 2015 a federal district court in Washington D.C. ruled the no-bond policy unconstitutional, in part for lacking any evidentiary correlation to preventing new arrivals and because it unjustifiably denied the families their liberty in order to attempt to change the behaviors of other people."


That paragraph shows that the issue has been ruled on by a federal court judge. I hung my hat on that ruling. The article explains other court cases that uphold the premise that separating families is unconstitutional as well.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
9. Well, that's one way to go, to stop immigration.
Tue May 15, 2018, 06:01 PM
May 2018

But I don't think I'd have it in me to do that. I don't know if I would be able to follow orders like that.

The Nazis did this - separated children from parents.

I can't imagine. The parents made the decision to come, but the poor kids are not guilty of anything and will be traumatized when they're taken from their parents and put in a strange place. I can't imagine. Is this America?

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
11. This was exactly the plot of Madam Secretary t
Tue May 15, 2018, 06:33 PM
May 2018

the other night! What to do with migrant kids. House them temporarily in closed bases near the border!

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
17. Or how about . . .
Tue May 15, 2018, 09:51 PM
May 2018

The verb "intern ?" There is no mention in their "policy" of what they plan to do with these children once on a military base, or how long they will be staying there or how they will leave or whether or not their needs will be met or or or or or . . . . .

This is unconscionable. Our nation is becoming everything we have sanctioned other countries for doing. I am sickened by this and ashamed to be an American right now.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
18. No peds in the military, eh?
Tue May 15, 2018, 10:15 PM
May 2018

This is dangerous for the children and it's going to cost us millions in the end. Racism ain't cheap.

We have problems with male and female active duty contact, and we're going to throw unaccompanied minors in the mix. Sounds like old men thinking.

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