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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun May 27, 2018, 08:49 AM May 2018

Israeli psych-ops firm diagrammed dirty Trump tricks in PowerPoint presentation -- and Mueller has a

Source: RawStory



Israeli psych-ops firm diagrammed dirty Trump tricks in PowerPoint presentation — and Mueller has a copy

MARTIN CIZMAR
26 MAY 2018 AT 20:49 ET

An Israel-based private intelligence firm made a Power Point presentation in which it appears to have bragged about the ways in which it used social media dirty tricks to help the Trump campaign, the Wall Street Journal reports.

The presentation was uploaded and featured pages on making fake news sites, using “avatar seeding” to get fake news in front of groups and infiltrating opposition to seed discord, such as using a pro-Bernie Sanders Facebook group to radicalize supporters against Hillary Clinton.

The nine-page presentation, which the Journal uploaded, was marked with the words “confidential” and “do not circulate.”




Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/israeli-psych-ops-firm-diagrammed-dirty-trump-tricks-powerpoint-presentation-mueller-copy/

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Israeli psych-ops firm diagrammed dirty Trump tricks in PowerPoint presentation -- and Mueller has a (Original Post) DonViejo May 2018 OP
wow - KGOP repube BFF$ working occultly to BETRAY America Achilleaze May 2018 #1
Wow, Israel working to destroy liberal democracy, did they learn nothing from WW2? lark May 2018 #3
No. What they want is a a proxy war with Iran, fought by U.S. troops Texin May 2018 #11
I agree they want that too and it's probably a big part of the reason they stole our democracy. lark May 2018 #20
And e have a bingo! world wide wally May 2018 #23
This is BS oberliner May 2018 #59
Yup workinclasszero May 2018 #62
Who is "they," exactly? RelativelyJones May 2018 #27
The "They" I referred to are Israelis who handed a psyop in a PowerPoint program to tRump's people Texin May 2018 #35
And who is the "they" who learned nothing from WWII? RelativelyJones May 2018 #36
The founder and owner, Joel Zamel, is Australian Mosby May 2018 #29
Is he not a dual national, Australian-Israeli? GeoWilliam750 May 2018 #41
Even if he is, that wouldn't make it an "Israeli" action. He is a private citizen. nt stevenleser May 2018 #42
Israel didn't exist during WW2 oberliner May 2018 #58
Yes, I know. lark May 2018 #61
We should use these techniques to spread the truth! Maraya1969 May 2018 #2
They were no doubt well paid. tavernier May 2018 #4
The Fake News Faker used Fake News? jpak May 2018 #5
good for Mueller nt heaven05 May 2018 #6
Once again, in a "normal" world, this would be an Onion piece. Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #7
This all happened here at DU and people were in denial. yardwork May 2018 #8
It is still happening. I see posts all the time I feel are seeds. bitterross May 2018 #25
It is a long game, on so many sites including Linked In and comment sections of all news papers.... bettyellen May 2018 #48
I think we need an alert category for suspected bot/troll. bitterross May 2018 #55
If it's a newish poster you can DM a MIRT member, I'm not sure if hosts can do much unless it's bad. bettyellen May 2018 #64
Though not surprising, PatSeg May 2018 #9
This effort by Israelis is more sickening than the Russians northoftheborder May 2018 #10
I hear ya. BumRushDaShow May 2018 #12
They're still doing it wryter2000 May 2018 #14
Yup. BumRushDaShow May 2018 #15
I see that "constructive criticism" here on a weekly basis mcar May 2018 #40
Who remembers U.S.S. Liberty? 3Hotdogs May 2018 #19
I do. Cold War Spook May 2018 #28
I was in Kagnew Station during the attack. 4th USASAFS alfredo May 2018 #45
I remember that SPLC considers the bringing up of that incident usually involves anti-semitism stevenleser May 2018 #44
What is SPLC 3Hotdogs May 2018 #46
Southern Poverty Law Center Chrysanthemum May 2018 #51
Was the Liberty flying the flag of P.L.O.? 3Hotdogs May 2018 #47
It was not one commander. Cold War Spook May 2018 #66
The owner of psy-group is from Australia Mosby May 2018 #30
Really? How is it more sickening than the Russians? RelativelyJones May 2018 #31
I never have trusted Israel - Their history with U.S. is one-sided packman May 2018 #13
Israel looks out for Israel. Always has, always will no matter what. shraby May 2018 #16
+1000 to this. They are NO friend indeed. NoMoreRepugs May 2018 #17
A firm BASED in Israel orangecrush May 2018 #18
A fact that is conveniently ignored DavidDvorkin May 2018 #24
Agreed. How do they get from the actions of this rightwing cabal to indicting the whole nation? Mc Mike May 2018 #32
It's always open season on Israel at DU nowadays DavidDvorkin May 2018 #34
Bibi is Israel at this point in time.. much like tRump is Merica.. NoMoreRepugs May 2018 #38
Trump is not America, and a private company owned by an Australian DavidDvorkin May 2018 #39
Facile b.s. Mc Mike May 2018 #52
Legitimate criticism of Israel is not anti-Semitism Quoproquid May 2018 #21
Quite Me. May 2018 #26
depends what one considers legitimate criticism. Mosby May 2018 #33
Kick RelativelyJones May 2018 #37
Acts of a private firm that has some Israeli citizens in it is not an Israeli act and so stevenleser May 2018 #43
All to abundant here on DU sellitman May 2018 #49
As usual, best to follow the money and then discuss. KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #65
Kick dalton99a May 2018 #22
I guess Trump must have known this, either before or after the election. BobTheSubgenius May 2018 #50
Mass manipulation. TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #53
The Countless Israeli Connections to Mueller's Probe of Trump and Russia neohippie May 2018 #54
Will the mainstream media cover this? yurbud May 2018 #56
Finally the real reason * "invited" Jared's input into his treason wiley May 2018 #57
The OP is citing a Wall Street Journal article oberliner May 2018 #60
sometimes the truth gets printed ONCE, but if it isn't thrown into the endless loop yurbud May 2018 #63

lark

(23,091 posts)
3. Wow, Israel working to destroy liberal democracy, did they learn nothing from WW2?
Sun May 27, 2018, 09:28 AM
May 2018

They want us to be more fascist, have more hatred for minorities, become weaker and poorer? That's what they advanced by helping drumpf. They know drumpf is a criminal funded heavily by Russia and this is who they support? Of course, even if we are poor, they still think they deserve a great deal of our bounty to fund their theft of other people's lands, think they deserve full medical care from birth and that it's fine for millions of working class and poor americans to die from lack of health care. Even more so than us, they have met the enemy and become them.

Texin

(2,594 posts)
11. No. What they want is a a proxy war with Iran, fought by U.S. troops
Sun May 27, 2018, 10:25 AM
May 2018

at U.S. taxpayers' expense - ALL the expense, blood and money. Our young men and women, not theirs.

lark

(23,091 posts)
20. I agree they want that too and it's probably a big part of the reason they stole our democracy.
Sun May 27, 2018, 11:26 AM
May 2018

It's lots easier when other people's folks die for your aims.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
62. Yup
Tue May 29, 2018, 09:15 AM
May 2018

And GOP/religious right/Trump are Bennie's useful idiots to get her done!

Our MIC will be more than happy to sacrifice the lives of tens of thousands of Americans as well because $$$!

Texin

(2,594 posts)
35. The "They" I referred to are Israelis who handed a psyop in a PowerPoint program to tRump's people
Sun May 27, 2018, 02:45 PM
May 2018

to use on the American people on social media sites. You can also lump the Boltons and Nethanyus and other Likudists who want the U.S. to engage in war with Iran for the benefit of the state of Israel.

Mosby

(16,299 posts)
29. The founder and owner, Joel Zamel, is Australian
Sun May 27, 2018, 12:27 PM
May 2018

Their one page website lists an address in Cyprus.

He also ownes a company called wikistrat, based in DC.

lark

(23,091 posts)
61. Yes, I know.
Tue May 29, 2018, 08:47 AM
May 2018

The Jews who lived through WW2 or their parents or grandparents lived through WW2 and they are becoming more and more like their former persecuters.

Maraya1969

(22,478 posts)
2. We should use these techniques to spread the truth!
Sun May 27, 2018, 09:22 AM
May 2018

The ones that are legal at least. Too many people are so misinformed and there needs to be a way to get them informed.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
7. Once again, in a "normal" world, this would be an Onion piece.
Sun May 27, 2018, 10:12 AM
May 2018

It is hard to wrap my head around this being real.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
8. This all happened here at DU and people were in denial.
Sun May 27, 2018, 10:13 AM
May 2018

A lot of DUers were fooled and some are still fooled. Ugly propaganda against Hillary and other Democrats was pushed. Blatant lies were promoted as truth. It was sickening.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
25. It is still happening. I see posts all the time I feel are seeds.
Sun May 27, 2018, 11:53 AM
May 2018

I see posts all the time here that make me wonder if they are put there just to start a negative discussion so it can be linked to and promoted. What confounds me is it isn't always people with a small number of posts. I guess I might be naive if I don't accept the fact this has been a long-game for the foreign powers. I am starting to accept the possibility they have been on this board and others for years sowing discord and shaping opinion.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
48. It is a long game, on so many sites including Linked In and comment sections of all news papers....
Mon May 28, 2018, 01:00 AM
May 2018

Have you noticed the posts trying to get people here to say awful things out of anger? Almost as common as those trying to claim there’s such a thing as reverse racists.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
55. I think we need an alert category for suspected bot/troll.
Mon May 28, 2018, 02:03 PM
May 2018

It would probably cause a huge spike in jury service.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
64. If it's a newish poster you can DM a MIRT member, I'm not sure if hosts can do much unless it's bad.
Tue May 29, 2018, 01:05 PM
May 2018

For some posts when you alert, it sends whatever brief message you want to the Admins. I’m not sure why that happens but I noticed it has w trolling posts.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
9. Though not surprising,
Sun May 27, 2018, 10:21 AM
May 2018

it is still so insidious, not to mention far reaching and apparently global.

I am frequently stunned and appalled at how some people's minds work.

northoftheborder

(7,572 posts)
10. This effort by Israelis is more sickening than the Russians
Sun May 27, 2018, 10:24 AM
May 2018

how depressing. I need to go straight to Salmonchanted to start my day.....

BumRushDaShow

(128,852 posts)
12. I hear ya.
Sun May 27, 2018, 10:36 AM
May 2018

A DU treasure.

And the sad part is that far too many on DU blamed the Democratic Party for a "lack of messaging" and other such nonsense, while you had multiple foreign powers working in tandem to impact the 2016 election.

wryter2000

(46,037 posts)
14. They're still doing it
Sun May 27, 2018, 10:42 AM
May 2018

Witness the disgusting Jim Carrey post from yesterday. DUers claiming Dems don't have enough "passion."

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
28. I do.
Sun May 27, 2018, 12:17 PM
May 2018

I had just been discharged from the army. June 8th, 1967 was my 24th birthday. I did on land what they were doing on the USS Liberty. The reason for the attack is Israeli thought there were Hebrew linguists onboard. All the linguists were Russian linguists. They didn't want the US to know that they were attacking the Golan Heights. How do I know? The people on the USS Liberty worked for the same people I did and I still had friends working there.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
45. I was in Kagnew Station during the attack. 4th USASAFS
Sun May 27, 2018, 09:29 PM
May 2018

05H20

I remember and it hurts. LBJ didn’t have our backs.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
44. I remember that SPLC considers the bringing up of that incident usually involves anti-semitism
Sun May 27, 2018, 08:11 PM
May 2018

Lots of countries including the US have had situations where they attacked the wrong target (I.e the downing of the Iranian commercial flight, the accidental bombing of the Chinese embassy, etc). Even if it was the deliberate act by one commander, constantly bringing it up is pretty obvious.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
66. It was not one commander.
Tue May 29, 2018, 03:33 PM
May 2018

The attack on the USS Liberty was carried out by their air force and their navy. The ship was flying the American flag. A premeditated act like that on an allied ship is not the fog of war, it is murder.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
13. I never have trusted Israel - Their history with U.S. is one-sided
Sun May 27, 2018, 10:42 AM
May 2018

and their ties to the religious fanatics and evangelist in this country is really troubling and suspicious. Their sponsoring trips to the "Holy Land" for every right-wing radio blowhard or ultra-conservative religious leader is nothing more than indoctrination that America MUST protect their state.

They are no friend to us and to liberty.

orangecrush

(19,537 posts)
18. A firm BASED in Israel
Sun May 27, 2018, 11:20 AM
May 2018

Does not mean all Israelis support this kind of nonsense, any more than Trump being president makes us fascists.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
32. Agreed. How do they get from the actions of this rightwing cabal to indicting the whole nation?
Sun May 27, 2018, 01:39 PM
May 2018

That's like blaming us as US citizens for Manafort and Stone, or Breitbart, or Bircher jones.

DavidDvorkin

(19,473 posts)
34. It's always open season on Israel at DU nowadays
Sun May 27, 2018, 02:43 PM
May 2018

And that often includes strong hints of anti-semitism. The solemn declarations that condemning the actions of the Israeli government do not equate to anti-semitism are a convenient cover.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,412 posts)
38. Bibi is Israel at this point in time.. much like tRump is Merica..
Sun May 27, 2018, 04:17 PM
May 2018

Most of us don't want the country rolled back decades but it's what's happening. Bibi wants to cripple his enemies, consequences be damned. That's not bashing..... it's what is.

Mosby

(16,299 posts)
33. depends what one considers legitimate criticism.
Sun May 27, 2018, 02:16 PM
May 2018

For example, if the criticism is that Israel is a European colonial settler project that should not exist, that's Antisemitic.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
43. Acts of a private firm that has some Israeli citizens in it is not an Israeli act and so
Sun May 27, 2018, 08:08 PM
May 2018

attributing it to “Israel” is what’s known as an unfair generalization, I.e racism/religiocentrism, in this case, anti-semitism.

sellitman

(11,606 posts)
49. All to abundant here on DU
Mon May 28, 2018, 01:29 AM
May 2018

It's why I spend more time on Twitter. There I can control my timeline easier.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
50. I guess Trump must have known this, either before or after the election.
Mon May 28, 2018, 01:32 AM
May 2018

It sure explains a lot of what's happened since.

 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
53. Mass manipulation.
Mon May 28, 2018, 06:53 AM
May 2018

Mass manipulation in America is as old as the hills. And it has killed millions. It's only now - after generations of warnings from numerous parties - that people are starting to realise what Frued knew over a century ago: the masses are a soft target and their fears and patriotism can be used to control them.

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
54. The Countless Israeli Connections to Mueller's Probe of Trump and Russia
Mon May 28, 2018, 07:36 AM
May 2018

The Israel-lobbyists, Netanyahu cronies, psyops manipulators and well-connected oligarchs — could it all be just one big coincidence?

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-trump-russia-mueller-probe-the-israel-connections-1.6116639

wiley

(2,921 posts)
57. Finally the real reason * "invited" Jared's input into his treason
Mon May 28, 2018, 11:22 PM
May 2018

Doubtful the MSM will cover it. Jewish intelligence agency staff members have been installed in every level of the US government for decades. This country will never deny even the most delirious fears of Israel. Not really an issue until other countries started banding together to terrorize it, ang the ultra wealthy banding together to buy every level of our government. They have been more subtle in the past. Realizing the desperation of the Kushner family and the lifetime dreams of people like Adelson and dozens of other billionaires to secure Israel, all they had to do is find the perfect blank slate candidate that could somehow get through to all those crazed Christians while manipulating racist and xenophobic US voters. Who do you think picked Pence as VP? Why is just as obvious.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
63. sometimes the truth gets printed ONCE, but if it isn't thrown into the endless loop
Tue May 29, 2018, 12:29 PM
May 2018

on cable, it's like it never happened.

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