Russian journalist Arkady Babchenko, who was reported killed in Kiev, shows up at a news conference
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BREAKING: Russian journalist Arkady Babchenko, who was reported killed in Kiev, shows up at a news conference in Ukraine.
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Blue_Adept
(6,397 posts)AP is the only trustworthy source I'm seeing so far but this one is coming up alongside it
BREAKING: The head of Ukraines Security Service (SBU) says Russian journalist and Kremlin critic Arkady Babchenko is still alive, a day after Ukrainian authorities announced he had been killed by a gunman at his apartment in Kyiv.
https://www.rferl.org/a/lavrov-rejects-any-russian-role-in-babchenko-murder-kyiv-russia-/29258933.html
Blue_Adept
(6,397 posts)"Russian journalist Arkady Babchenko, who was reported killed in Kiev, shows up at a news conference in Ukraine."
No more.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Russia, Britain, USA, France, etc., and now this all turns out to be Ukrainian propaganda or a massive error? Was there even a body, shot in the back in a Kielce apartment? Who was that guy??
What is the difference between propaganda, fake news and dales news?
It is becoming almost impossible to separate truth from fact and so step 1 of fascism has taken root, not helped by this.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)Response to Blue_Adept (Original post)
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KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)Link: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44307611
(snip)
The head of Ukraine's security services, Vasyl Hrytsak, said at the press conference that the 'murder' had been staged to expose Russian agents.
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Blue_Adept
(6,397 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)world nations and allies informed, because then they too were in on it?
Really, WTF this still makes no sense. Who the fuck to believe anymore, ever, on Russia.
The World Cup is days away...propaganda and fake news and double fake news will be everywhere.
Not defending Russia, just saying propaganda cuts both ways now more than ever.
Blue_Adept
(6,397 posts)This is the kind of stuff where even the most astute and on top of things kind of folks blink and go WTF
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)From: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44307611
(snips)
Police said that they had made one arrest in connection with the extraordinary operation.
Now, that's some spooky stuff!.......
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)more complex than I had envisioned:
See: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/30/arkady-babchenko-reveals-he-faked-his-death-to-thwart-moscow-plot
(snips)
The middleman was now in custody, Hrytsak said, showing video of a middle-aged, white-haired man being bundled by officers into a van. Hrytsak added that phone intercepts had revealed his contacts in Moscow. Dozens of contract killings had been averted, he suggested, claiming that the list of potential victims in Ukraine stretched to 30 names. The Ukrainian suspect was supposed to buy a large quantity of weapons and explosive, including 300 AK-47 rifles and hundreds of kilos of explosives, Hrytsak alleged.
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Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)The whole thing continues to confuse and confound and still something not right because of course info is being withheld...the trial should be behind interesting.
What does this do to the credibility of journalism, everywhere?
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Why did they need to fake his demise?