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Judi Lynn

(160,211 posts)
Wed May 30, 2018, 06:03 PM May 2018

Baptist church removing Jesus statue it deems too 'Catholic'

Source: Associated Press


Christina L. Myers, Associated Press
Updated 4:59 pm, Wednesday, May 30, 2018



LEXINGTON, S.C. (AP) — A Baptist church in South Carolina has voted to remove a statue of Jesus Christ because some believe it's too "Catholic" for their place of worship.

The hand-carved, 7-foot (2-meter) statue and accompanying reliefs showing scenes from the life of Christ have been displayed outside Red Bank Baptist Church in Lexington for a decade.

But Pastor Jeff Wright says the statue is being taken down this week. In a letter, Pastor said some congregants feel it is "Catholic in nature," and it needs to be removed to avoid confusion. He did not explain why. Wright didn't return telephone calls or respond to messages The Associated Press left in person with his staff Wednesday.

Read more: https://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Baptist-church-removing-Jesus-statue-it-deems-too-12953435.php#photo-15640922

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Baptist church removing Jesus statue it deems too 'Catholic' (Original Post) Judi Lynn May 2018 OP
need to get one holding a machine gun.... dhill926 May 2018 #1
and a football FSogol May 2018 #3
With Trump's face on it durablend May 2018 #19
Yep, when you make a graven image, got to get it right. Girard442 May 2018 #2
lol OriginalGeek May 2018 #4
lololol Solly Mack May 2018 #5
This is dumb s**t but i guess it is their right to do it. It IS SC after all. dameatball May 2018 #6
Personally I think it looks like Leon Russell. Still In Wisconsin May 2018 #7
He was a Jew "until God came down and said 'no more of that." - Archie Bunker n/t tom_kelly May 2018 #14
Ah yes, Archie!!! Still In Wisconsin May 2018 #15
Franklin (and Billy) Graham say Catholics are not Christians keithbvadu2 May 2018 #8
Well, of course! Fritz67 May 2018 #10
That they do. paleotn May 2018 #22
The moral majority was awful we do not need that standingtall May 2018 #27
The way it was explained to me is that Maeve May 2018 #28
I guess these "charlies come lately" never read anything demosincebirth May 2018 #50
My daughter's friend's mom told me I seemed woodsprite May 2018 #51
LMAO!! Christianity at it's best. Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #9
Exactly. You know all 6 of them threatened to withhold $$$ from the little envelopes. LuckyLib May 2018 #35
No way Jesus was that tall .... unless .... ashling May 2018 #11
Whenever I see an image of Jesus, the lines from Angela's Ashes comes to me ProudLib72 May 2018 #12
I think of this: FSogol May 2018 #30
That was a GREAT show. Loved it. Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #39
Well if they want an accurate portrayal of Jesus, try brown Middle Eastern Jew. Fla Dem May 2018 #13
I like this one: Girard442 May 2018 #16
Chaim Topol ProudLib72 May 2018 #31
or this OriginalGeek May 2018 #53
Now, do not worry your pretty little heads. Doreen May 2018 #17
Interesting timing Raven123 May 2018 #18
What makes it too Catholic ? left-of-center2012 May 2018 #20
look to me like he's flapping his arms in mid-flight rurallib May 2018 #32
The arms extended to his sides, evocative of the crucified Christ, make it a "Catholic" statue . . . Journeyman May 2018 #34
The reason the corpa is on a crucifix and NOT the Protestant cross Drahthaardogs May 2018 #38
"If you don't start following my teachings, I swear I'm gonna jump" Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #40
Not sure why this is news standingtall May 2018 #21
It will be news to lots of rightwing Catholics who mistakenly thought evangelicals pnwmom May 2018 #29
It was ok for over 10 years....why now? nt Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #41
Was ok for them but standingtall May 2018 #42
Of course Protestants are at odd with Catholics. That is why they are called PROTESTANTS. Midnight Writer May 2018 #47
I'm sure Bill Donohue will be along any moment to express his outrage Mc Mike May 2018 #23
If its authenticity they want, the next statue should look like a Palestinian guy. nt procon May 2018 #24
Several years ago, I visited my friend who was attending Baptist Bible College in Springfield, MO TlalocW May 2018 #25
I grew up just outside of Springfield blur256 May 2018 #37
His whole time there was hilarious TlalocW May 2018 #43
Reminds me of when I first moved from Los Angeles to OKC. a la izquierda May 2018 #49
I've long wondered about this divide. JNelson6563 May 2018 #26
Catholics can be every bit as winger, save for the racism. Crash2Parties May 2018 #36
Oh yes, I know! JNelson6563 May 2018 #48
Oftentimes, the method of religion is more important than the God of religion. keithbvadu2 May 2018 #33
hey seam Hannity and Bill O reilly, hell even Steve Bannon DonCoquixote May 2018 #44
If you look in real close like shadowmayor May 2018 #45
Idjits Hekate May 2018 #46
What color/race was Jesus? It depends on whose living room wall his picture hangs. keithbvadu2 May 2018 #52

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
4. lol
Wed May 30, 2018, 06:08 PM
May 2018

the baptist church I was raised in thought catholics were unchristian idol-worshipers. This doesn't surprise me.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
7. Personally I think it looks like Leon Russell.
Wed May 30, 2018, 06:14 PM
May 2018

... but what do I know, I'm a Jew.

Hey, wait, so was Jesus, right?

keithbvadu2

(36,360 posts)
8. Franklin (and Billy) Graham say Catholics are not Christians
Wed May 30, 2018, 06:17 PM
May 2018

Franklin (and Billy) Graham say Mormons are not Christians

According to them, Catholics are not Christians either.

https://billygraham.org/decision-magazine/october-2012/can-an-evangelical-christian-vote-for-a-mormon/

"We need something like what Jerry Falwell did in the 1980s. We need a “moral majority”-made up of Christians, Jews, Mormons, Catholics and many others of faith-to come together to take a stand for our religious freedoms and rights."

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Of course there are some Catholics who say Protestants are false Christians.

Fritz67

(353 posts)
10. Well, of course!
Wed May 30, 2018, 06:24 PM
May 2018

Protestants worship Jesus Christ as the Son of God, while Catholics worship Jesus Christ as the Son of God! Completely different!!!

paleotn

(17,778 posts)
22. That they do.
Wed May 30, 2018, 07:15 PM
May 2018

I was raised to believe Mormons were a cult spawned by satan. Well, they got part of that right and not the part about the guy with the horns and a pitchfork. Broken clock moment, I guess. They also fervently believe Catholics are going straight to hell, seeing as they're in league with the anti-christ and all. So much hate, simply because one group believes in a slightly different myth than another. Strange people, fundys of all stripes.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
27. The moral majority was awful we do not need that
Wed May 30, 2018, 07:22 PM
May 2018

Wouldn't happen anyway and even if it did neither mainstream Protestants or mainstream Catholics are not going to accept Mormons or Jews who don't accept the deity of Christ as Christians.

Maeve

(42,223 posts)
28. The way it was explained to me is that
Wed May 30, 2018, 07:29 PM
May 2018

The Catholic Church accepts others baptized in the Christian faith as fellow believers as long as they are baptized in the trinitarian fashion, i.e., "In the Name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit", which includes most mainstream Protestants and the Orthodox. However, Mormons don't follow that pattern and are "properly" baptized if they convert (this may go for some Unitarians and a few others, I can't remember and it no longer really matters to me--treat people decently and I don't care what you believe-if anything- beyond that).

Of course, that hasn't filtered down to a lot of self-righteous 'believers'....

woodsprite

(11,853 posts)
51. My daughter's friend's mom told me I seemed
Thu May 31, 2018, 07:28 AM
May 2018

Really nice for a Presbyterian. I was like “Thank you, I think.” We agree on a lot of things, with the exception of politics and abortion. She’s a Trumper. Their whole family is except for the one that is my daughter’s friend.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,057 posts)
9. LMAO!! Christianity at it's best.
Wed May 30, 2018, 06:23 PM
May 2018

edit to add: the ones who asked for it to be removed "after more than a decade" must have been great tithers.

ashling

(25,771 posts)
11. No way Jesus was that tall .... unless ....
Wed May 30, 2018, 06:29 PM
May 2018

Scenes from the life of Christ include him playing Basketball

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
12. Whenever I see an image of Jesus, the lines from Angela's Ashes comes to me
Wed May 30, 2018, 06:29 PM
May 2018

Teacher: "You don't see Jesus sportin' new shoes on the cross, do you? Who don't you see sportin' new shoes?"

Students: "Jesus, sir!"

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
17. Now, do not worry your pretty little heads.
Wed May 30, 2018, 06:46 PM
May 2018

Next week they will put up a statue in it's place of donald trump.

Raven123

(4,714 posts)
18. Interesting timing
Wed May 30, 2018, 06:49 PM
May 2018

Wouldn't have anything to do with Pope Francis focusing on such earthly concerns such as climate change, income inequality, care for immigrants would it?

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
20. What makes it too Catholic ?
Wed May 30, 2018, 07:05 PM
May 2018

Look at those eyes.

He looks like he's about to jump off that ledge.
Or fly away?

Journeyman

(15,001 posts)
34. The arms extended to his sides, evocative of the crucified Christ, make it a "Catholic" statue . . .
Wed May 30, 2018, 08:54 PM
May 2018

A Catholic cross is a crucifix, whereon the crucified Christ is depicted, while Protestant churches display an empty cross, signifying the resurrection.

I'm surprised they didn't opt to remove the 12 bas-relief placards as well, given as they depict the 12 Stations of the Cross, Christ's final journey to his crucifixion. Though perhaps those are used in some Baptist churches as well. I know they are in Anglican and Episcopalian.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
38. The reason the corpa is on a crucifix and NOT the Protestant cross
Wed May 30, 2018, 09:38 PM
May 2018

Is because Catholics believe they practice the ancient sacrifice at the mass. One cannot separate the original Jewish tradition (before Rabbinical Judiasm) from the Ressurection. The Sacrifice and then the Ressurection together are inseparable.

To be blunt, the corpa is likely too Jewish in meaning for most Protestants.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
21. Not sure why this is news
Wed May 30, 2018, 07:10 PM
May 2018

Last edited Thu May 31, 2018, 09:11 AM - Edit history (2)

there probably a million legitimate reasons to jump on this church, but removing a statue because it doesn't fit with their Church shouldn't be one of them. Most protestant churches don't believe in having statues of Jesus or Mary or of any other biblical figure.

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
29. It will be news to lots of rightwing Catholics who mistakenly thought evangelicals
Wed May 30, 2018, 07:40 PM
May 2018

respected them.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
42. Was ok for them but
Wed May 30, 2018, 09:57 PM
May 2018

generally protestants churches don't like to have statues. Don't know why could be anti- Catholic mindset or maybe they want to shift their doctrine so that it is more in line with what protestants have historically believed.

Mc Mike

(9,106 posts)
23. I'm sure Bill Donohue will be along any moment to express his outrage
Wed May 30, 2018, 07:15 PM
May 2018

at this redneck nazi.

Because Donohue is a paragon of integrity and not at all a repuglinazi hypocrite.

TlalocW

(15,358 posts)
25. Several years ago, I visited my friend who was attending Baptist Bible College in Springfield, MO
Wed May 30, 2018, 07:17 PM
May 2018

He was 25 or 26, had gotten an associate's in radio broadcast technology and was going back and to BBC because he thought he would like to be a youth minister. He's religious but not in your face about it. I came in on Thursday, and I attended classes with him on Friday - one was Spanish, which was one of my majors. So I helped his group when the class was split up to do an in-class assignment. With my help, we finished first, and I got into the following conversation with one of the other people in the group.
Him: So where did you go to college?
Me: Did my undergrad work at Pittsburg State in southeast Kansas then some grad work at Oklahoma State.
Him: In Stillwater? Good ol' Eskimo Joe's (famous bar/restaurant).
Me: Oh, you know it?
Him: Yeah, I lived in Tulsa, and my friends and I would go there on weekends to support local bands we liked when they played.
Me: That's where I live now. Tulsa.
Him: What church do you go to?
Me: (Forgetting where I am) Oh, I don't attend church. I prefer sleeping in on Sundays.
* moment of tense silence *
Him: Well, if you're interested, there's one church on 121st and...
Me: That was your church, wasn't it?
Him: Yeah (starts talking about why I think I would like it)
Me: (How do I shut him up without revealing to everyone I'm essentially an atheist, which will just have the whole class after me? I GOT IT!) Actually, I do go to a church every now and then.
Him: Which one?
Me: St. Francis de Guadalupe - it's a Mexican Catholic church. I get to practice my Spanish, and there's normally a vendor selling yummy things from his bike/ice box contraption after services.
Him: (flatly) That's... nice.

My friend had been listening to the conversation the entire time trying not to laugh and complimented me on using Baptists' ingrain suspicion/dislike of Catholics to get the guy to stop bothering me.

TlalocW

blur256

(979 posts)
37. I grew up just outside of Springfield
Wed May 30, 2018, 09:33 PM
May 2018

And met several people that went to BBC. They are taught early on from what I can tell to try to increase the flock. They ALWAYS asked me if I had a "home church." When I would say yes, that I had a hometown Presbyterian church, they would say well I feel like you would LOVE our church... they teach the gospel... Ugh. So much loathing from me. Especially now that I'm married to a woman minister and attend her very open and affirming UCC church. Religion doesnt have to be hateful. So much hate flows through BBC for anyone they don't feel "worthy." Its sad.

TlalocW

(15,358 posts)
43. His whole time there was hilarious
Wed May 30, 2018, 10:06 PM
May 2018

We come from a small farming town in Kansas. When he was getting ready to go there, he was looking at all the requirements for their behavior and saw that men had to be clean-shaven. So he went to our hometown doctor, the only Jewish guy in town, and asked if he could write something that said he couldn't shave that often because of a skin condition (he liked to keep a couple days of stubble). Our doctor looked at him and said, "So you want me, a Jew, to lie to Baptists for you?" *pause* "Okay!"

He also ignored all the requirements for not watching certain shows, listen to particular radio stations, not go to movies, etc. He actually built himself a sound booth out of discarded material in his on-campus single-residence apartment, which he did not break down when he left.

The most fascinating thing about the campus is that everyone - at least the guys - you could go up to and ask them their high score, and they would know what you're talking about. Since there was so little that they could do in town, they would always go to Silver Dollar City where one of the rides was a boat trip through a tunnel where you had light guns that you used to shoot targets while on the ride. Everyone knew their high score.

TlalocW

a la izquierda

(11,784 posts)
49. Reminds me of when I first moved from Los Angeles to OKC.
Thu May 31, 2018, 01:57 AM
May 2018

My neighbor came to welcome me to the community and invited me to adult Pentecostal worship with her. Now, I was raised very strict Catholic. But I'm agnostic and have been for a long time. I responded to neighbor lady that I was Catholic. The look on her face was something of a combination of having sucked on a lemon, while desperately trying to appear friendly.
She came over every Wednesday for about a month to invite me to fellowship. I usually hid in my closet with my dogs to pretend I was out/keep them quiet.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
26. I've long wondered about this divide.
Wed May 30, 2018, 07:20 PM
May 2018

First off I am surprised so many Catholics support the wingers. Wingers hate anyone not exactly like them and that goes for Catholics too. Old hatreds thrive in religion, I guess cause they're so enlightened...? Anyhow, yeah, let's face it, not a WASP? Yes, we;ll take your support until we have total dominance, then you are expendable.

Suckers.,

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
36. Catholics can be every bit as winger, save for the racism.
Wed May 30, 2018, 09:29 PM
May 2018

Especially when it comes to money and misogyny (ie women's & lbgt equality). I've also met *plenty* of racist white American Catholics over the years, too...

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
48. Oh yes, I know!
Thu May 31, 2018, 01:29 AM
May 2018

And they're supporting those who share their hatreds. They just seem unaware that they are also hates for their faith.

DonCoquixote

(13,615 posts)
44. hey seam Hannity and Bill O reilly, hell even Steve Bannon
Wed May 30, 2018, 10:08 PM
May 2018

remember, this is what Mike pence and Franklin graham really think about you.

shadowmayor

(1,325 posts)
45. If you look in real close like
Wed May 30, 2018, 11:35 PM
May 2018

You can just tell that the bearded fella is concealing some wineskins under those robes. Because where ever four Catholics are gathered . . .

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