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pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 03:04 AM Jun 2018

Ted Cruz again defends family separation, as Beto O'Rourke plans vigil at Tornillo tent camp

Source: Dallas News

SAN ANTONIO — Sen. Ted Cruz again defended the Trump administration's controversial new policy of separating children from parents at the border, blaming migrants for putting their offspring in jeopardy and insisting that such tragedies also occurred in the Obama era.

"There's no doubt that the images that we've seen of children, and children being separated from their parents, are heartbreaking. They were heartbreaking when Obama was president," Cruz told reporters Saturday after speaking at the Texas Republican convention. "I visited the Obama camps that he set up to detain little boys and little girls who crossed the border illegally. Illegal immigration produces human tragedies that are wrong."

Attorney General Jeff Sessions has described the "zero tolerance" policy for illegal border crossing, and the policy of separating children from parents when they're detained, as a deterrent against illegal immigration.

President Donald Trump and his aides have insisted that laws enacted with Democratic support require family separation. Democratic lawmakers and immigration law experts vehemently dispute that.

Read more: https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2018/06/16/ted-cruz-digs-family-separation-beto-orourke-plans-vigil-tornillo-tent-camp

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Ted Cruz again defends family separation, as Beto O'Rourke plans vigil at Tornillo tent camp (Original Post) pnwmom Jun 2018 OP
repubes are competing for 'Anti-KeeRiist' of the Year top honors Achilleaze Jun 2018 #1
Cruz is just another trump loyalist now duforsure Jun 2018 #2
If Ted ever dares cross the border with his family, I hope he gets a taste of his own medicine. Vinca Jun 2018 #3
What is the best action to take with adults and their kids pangaia Jun 2018 #4
Keep them together SheLiberal Jun 2018 #5
Thanks. That solution was too easy and obvious for me. pangaia Jun 2018 #9
That's what I don't get. Jedi Guy Jun 2018 #16
Same as pre-Trump - this is (at MOST) a misdemeanor (no violation at all for asylum-seekers). lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #20
Yeah. Repug Cruz defends Repug D Rump's policy, while repug d Rump sez 'it's the Dems policy'. Mc Mike Jun 2018 #6
Good. Thanks, Beto. rec, nt Mc Mike Jun 2018 #7
Says the son of a Cuban immigrant PatSeg Jun 2018 #8
I have a couple of friends in El Paso who think Beto is just great!! pangaia Jun 2018 #10
What images did we see of children being separated from their parents during the Obama administratio MiniMe Jun 2018 #11
Lyin' Ted is lying dalton99a Jun 2018 #12
We didn't. But there are some pictures of unaccompanied minors, and they point to those. pnwmom Jun 2018 #13
As usual, their arguments make zero sense.... paleotn Jun 2018 #14
Go ahead, Ted: dig yourself deeper. MBS Jun 2018 #15
Spread your cheeks wide for Trump, Lyin' Ted flibbitygiblets Jun 2018 #17
This topic could end Cruz's senate career forever...I hope it does. Stuart G Jun 2018 #18
Hey Ted, when Trump exterminates everybody with a Hispanic surname, lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #19

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. repubes are competing for 'Anti-KeeRiist' of the Year top honors
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:28 AM
Jun 2018

Who can be the stankiest, most hate-driven KGOP republican?

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
2. Cruz is just another trump loyalist now
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 06:17 AM
Jun 2018

And accepts this towards abusing children,and it will come back to haunt him. He'll also vote to let trump off the hook for massive corruption and treason, along with voting to destroy ALL health care and soon Social Security. They've already started on SS. How could anyone vote for someone that would allow this to happen to children , and intentionally do this to hurt them possibly for life.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
4. What is the best action to take with adults and their kids
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 08:06 AM
Jun 2018

coming to the US seeking asylum? - Whether within existing laws or by changing laws. I honestly do not know.

SheLiberal

(37 posts)
5. Keep them together
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 08:49 AM
Jun 2018

The first step is easy keep the family together until you determine if they qualify for asylum.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
9. Thanks. That solution was too easy and obvious for me.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 09:23 AM
Jun 2018


As long as they are not in some 'prison-like' environment.. which should NOT be difficult to accomplish by a sane government.

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
16. That's what I don't get.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 08:28 PM
Jun 2018

Surely the facilities must exist somewhere in the Southwest, or at least somewhere in the nation, to house the families together while their case works its way through the immigration system. And if the facilities don't exist, well... let's build them. We're the "richest" and "greatest" nation on Earth, so 'tis said, so why not pony up the cash to house these families in humane, safe facilities? Give them proper medical care and nutrition, and get the kids into an appropriate educational program.

If we did this, we'd be a shining example to the world of how a civilized nation treats refugees, migrants, and immigrants. Instead, we're pretty much daring the UN and world community to start hitting us with sanctions for human rights violations.

I really just don't understand the needless cruelty driving this "policy." It's possible to both enforce immigration law and not treat human beings like animals.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
20. Same as pre-Trump - this is (at MOST) a misdemeanor (no violation at all for asylum-seekers).
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 09:57 AM
Jun 2018

Pre-Trump, they would get a summons and be released, with a court-appointed 'minder' to ensure they showed up to the hearing. With a 99% compliance rate, it worked just fine.

While it's a complete lie to say there's a flood of immigrants, there are severe problems in Guatemala and Honduras - these people are fleeing for their lives and the real solution is to help those countries pull out of failed-state status and deal with the infestation of gangs.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
6. Yeah. Repug Cruz defends Repug D Rump's policy, while repug d Rump sez 'it's the Dems policy'.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 08:58 AM
Jun 2018

While a Dem runs against repug Cruz and that policy.

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
11. What images did we see of children being separated from their parents during the Obama administratio
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 11:15 AM
Jun 2018

I don't remember any. I may have missed something there.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
13. We didn't. But there are some pictures of unaccompanied minors, and they point to those.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 01:39 PM
Jun 2018

That, of course, is completely different.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
14. As usual, their arguments make zero sense....
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 06:56 PM
Jun 2018

They bitched and moaned for years about so called "catch and release." Now they're saying the Obama admin was separating children at the border? So, were they catching and releasing or separating? Releasing then catching and separating? Maybe releasing, separating and then catching.

And didn't Bilbo Jeff take credit for coming up with separation? As a deterrent supposedly? There's recorded evidence of that, but god forbid these people actually understand the concepts of audio and video tape. And now the soulless Nazis says he came up with it. But...but...but...I thought it was Obama policy all along?

These clowns aren't even good assholes. Did no one think that there would be a huge backlash to this, so they'd better have a damn good story behind it? Some kind of semi plausible narrative? Blaming the black guy is not a good reason. If it were the Obama admin (total and complete bullshit) and they think it's terrible, then change the goddamn policy! They've had no problem changing numerous other Obama policies.

Anyone with a bare minimum of functioning neurons ( trump dolts excluded for obvious reasons ) can see they didn't think this through (gasp!) and are just throwing excuses against the wall to see what will stick. Ain't none of them sticking. The only good thing about this cast of clowns is their utter and complete stupidity.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
19. Hey Ted, when Trump exterminates everybody with a Hispanic surname,
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 09:53 AM
Jun 2018

do you think you'll be magically exempt? Especially after some of the rude things you said during the campaign?

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