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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 09:35 AM Jun 2018

Trump rips 'Fake News' for reports of concessions to North Korea

Source: The Hill

BY BRETT SAMUELS - 06/17/18 08:59 AM EDT

President Trump on Sunday took aim at the media for its critical coverage of his meeting with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

"Funny how the Fake News, in a coordinated effort with each other, likes to say I gave sooo much to North Korea because I 'met,'" Trump tweeted.




Trump held a summit with Kim last Tuesday in Singapore, marking the first time a sitting U.S. president and sitting leader of North Korea met face-to-face.

-snip-

Trump in a subsequent tweet on Sunday that the deal "is being praised and celebrated all over Asia."




Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/392661-trump-rips-fake-news-for-reports-of-concessions-to-north-korea
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Trump rips 'Fake News' for reports of concessions to North Korea (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2018 OP
Still waiting to see if the North complies. Not holding my breath. 7962 Jun 2018 #1
Of course they're not going to comply... paleotn Jun 2018 #6
They've already complied. They really didn't agree to do anything LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2018 #12
And even if n.korea cooperates.. Maxheader Jun 2018 #13
There have been many 'historic' meetings and signatures... keithbvadu2 Jun 2018 #15
THANK you. I'll be able to use this list. nt 7962 Jun 2018 #19
All contaminated things are unsatisfactory vlyons Jun 2018 #2
Poor baby. sinkingfeeling Jun 2018 #3
Maybe the proper analogy is the call Obama and Rouhani had karynnj Jun 2018 #4
The problem that will never be overcome, in my opinion.... paleotn Jun 2018 #11
Agree karynnj Jun 2018 #17
So what about giving up those military exercises with SK? Freethinker65 Jun 2018 #5
NK seems to think we're rolling back sanctions... paleotn Jun 2018 #8
Commas, f it, use them anywhere underpants Jun 2018 #7
hostages/remains forgotmylogin Jun 2018 #20
tRumo is a faux pResident. FarPoint Jun 2018 #9
This from the asshole who was part of the birther movement. This f**ker and those behind him are still_one Jun 2018 #10
Okay asshole to solve your pathological LYING.................. turbinetree Jun 2018 #14
"People in Asia are so happy they are dancing in the streets" Just like in Jersey City after 9/11??? winstars Jun 2018 #16
There is no "denuclearization deal." That's the problem. There is a photo op. Vinca Jun 2018 #18
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
1. Still waiting to see if the North complies. Not holding my breath.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 09:38 AM
Jun 2018

Never trust them. They've lied and cheated on every other agreement.

paleotn

(17,902 posts)
6. Of course they're not going to comply...
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:17 AM
Jun 2018

They got what they wanted....global recognition by the US and the prestige attached to that, in exchange for?.......something that sorta kinda looks like something resembling a thingy called denuclearlization, which everyone has a different definition for, with most definitions being mutually exclusive. Suffices to say, NK will not give up it's nukes. Given our penchant for regime change and this admin's lack of anything remotely resembling integrity, they would be crazy to even consider it. Thus, they got what they wanted. We got?? Well? Nothing, except international smirks and snickers publicly, rolling on the floor laughter by the international community in private. Dumpster is doing such wonders for US prestige.

12. They've already complied. They really didn't agree to do anything
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:58 AM
Jun 2018

Kim Yung Un smiled and offered some platitudes about denuclearization. He doesn't have to worry about deadlines or verification by inspectors -- those aren't specified in the agreement. He got 100% of what he wanted the moment he and the alleged Leader of the Free World shook hands, giving him instant credibility. Trump, on the other hand, will jump through hoop after hoop as he pursues the illusive Nobel Peace Prize.

Unrelated to the OP: Why does Trump refer to himself in the third person, and specifically by his last name? The best reason I can find relates to his narcissistic personality, which enables him to charm people at first but annoy them as they get to know them. One study, entitled, “You Probably Think This Paper’s About You," (reported on in Time magazine) examined the qualities of narcissism:

It’s a deep and all but certain truth about narcissistic personalities that to meet them is to love them, but to know them well is to find them unbearable. Confidence quickly curdles into arrogance; smarts turn to smugness, charm turns to smarm. They will talk endlessly about themselves, but when they ask about you — well, never mind, because they never do.

Narcissism falls along the axis of what psychologists call personality disorders, one of a group that includes antisocial, dependent, histrionic, avoidant and borderline personalities. But by most measures, narcissism is one of the worst, if only because the narcissists themselves are so clueless.

By referring to themselves in the third person -- of which using their last or full name is the most extreme -- a narcissist detaches themselves from their emotions. "Trump feels bad about the children" is a parsec away from "I feel bad about the children."

Frank Lloyd Wright -- never one to hide his light under a bushel -- put it this way: "“Early in life, I had to choose between honest arrogance and hypocritical humility. I chose honest arrogance and have seen no reason to change.”

keithbvadu2

(36,727 posts)
15. There have been many 'historic' meetings and signatures...
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 12:03 PM
Jun 2018

There have been many 'historic' meetings and signatures...

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
2. All contaminated things are unsatisfactory
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 09:40 AM
Jun 2018

Contaminated with self-cherishing. And as you know, Trump sees the world through narcissistic self-cherishing. Everything he does is contaminated with self-cherishing and ultimately leads to his own dissatisfaction with it.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
4. Maybe the proper analogy is the call Obama and Rouhani had
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 09:57 AM
Jun 2018

Like that call, it was an important event where communication increased enormously. Note Obama prudently avoided even a meeting on the sidelines of the UN for a phone call. It then took more than 2 years of negotiating from a talented American team with both John Kerry and Ernie Moniz working with the others in the p5+1.

I hope that the hard work is done in North Korea to really move things away from war here - as it was in Iran. As it is, we do not even have the Clinton era agreement, which Wendy Sherman, who was involved in negotiating both that deal and the Iran deal, as something that informed their effort to build a comprehensive inspection program in the Iran deal.

What is most troubling in Trump's comments is the idea that he speaks of a "deal" that has not yet even been defined. To put it in Trump real estate terms, it would be like me declaring after meeting with a realtor for the first time saying our house was sold and it was a great deal -- when even the listing price was not yet agreed upon, much less a buyer found.

He then complains that he is not given enough credit for "peace". In fact, he has gotten MORE credit than Obama and Rouhani did when they were at the same stage. I hope this is a window of opportunity and that Trump is smart enough to take advantage of it. Not to mention, even when the world did get a nuclear deal in Iran, there was not universal praise for Obama.

paleotn

(17,902 posts)
11. The problem that will never be overcome, in my opinion....
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:46 AM
Jun 2018

is the heart of this whole deal, denuclearization. One can't have a meaningful negotiations until all parties at least agree to some very basic definitions. Denuclearization still means widely different things to the parties involved. To NK, it apparently means, yea, maybe, we'll think about it someday.

The reality was and is, there are virtually no "carrots" we can give Kim that would entice him to give up the best insurance against regime change a despot dictator can ever possess. And now, according to media reports, we've dropped the "sticks" of sanctions and potential military action. And for what? Some vague "we'll think about it...to be decided later" response from NK?

In essence, this "deal", if you want to call it that, is so fucked up and flawed from the get go, there's no possible way of it every accomplishing anything constructive.

paleotn

(17,902 posts)
8. NK seems to think we're rolling back sanctions...
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:20 AM
Jun 2018

Who knows what that senile orange bastard blurted out during their "meeting." This whole thing will end badly. How badly only time will tell.

forgotmylogin

(7,523 posts)
20. hostages/remains
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:29 PM
Jun 2018

"Hostages. (slash) Remains."

I also liked the "soooo" you can totally hear his voice in it.

still_one

(92,115 posts)
10. This from the asshole who was part of the birther movement. This f**ker and those behind him are
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:32 AM
Jun 2018

truly evil.

Any administration or person whose main motivation is to go out of their way to actually HURT people, especially the most vulnerable in our society, by appointing people to destroy those departments whose responsibilities have been to protect all Americans, in areas such as healthcare, education, the environment, etc. because he is a sadistic, cruel, bully, without ANY ounce of humanity or compassion, is the lowest form of being


turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
14. Okay asshole to solve your pathological LYING..................
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 11:57 AM
Jun 2018

did you or did you not attack allies at the G7
Did you or did you not say to the pentagon, hey guess what boys, I want to build a hotel on the sunny beaches of NK and I want you to stand down on military practices in SK..........................you want to see the fucking videos.............

And to solve this "fake news" shit that you have a wet dream on every day, just to hear yourself speak within that traitors head you have between your ears............show the public the agreement you signed, with all the addendum's.............so until you show it.............................fuck you.................


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