Trump Plans Executive Order to End Family Separation
Source: nyt
President Trump is preparing to issue an executive order as soon as Wednesday that ends the separation of families at the border by indefinitely detaining parents and children together, flouting a court settlement that prohibits that move, according to a person familiar with the White House plans.
Stories of children being taken from their parents and images of teenagers in cage-like detention facilities have exploded into a full-blown political crisis for Mr. Trump and Republican lawmakers, who are desperate for a response to critics who have called the practice inhumane and evil.
Mr. Trump has for weeks refused to simply end his governments zero tolerance policy that led to the separation of more than 2,300 children from their parents, saying that the alternative would be to fling open the nations borders and allow immigrants who cross the border illegally to remain in the country.
But the president, furious about the pummeling he has taken in recent days, has been casting about for an escape from the crisis, people familiar with his thinking said. Officials at the Department of Homeland Security are preparing the executive order that is designed to end the family separations.
Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/trump-immigration-children-executive-order.html?
Roy Rolling
(6,915 posts)He will declare victory and go home, saying he issued the Executive Order to overcome Democrats' opposition to helping children.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,583 posts)I think the final straw for Donnie Two Scoops was when the member of the Nobel Committee said, "No Prize for you if you keep up this inhumane policy."
I agree, he will find some way to blame the Democrats (and Obama, for good measure), and cast himself as the savior of the country.
C_U_L8R
(45,000 posts)He'll reunite the families and toss them in some concentration camp hellhole out in the middle of the desert. Just out of racist-fueled spite. He really is that small of a president.
forgotmylogin
(7,527 posts)If he rolls back this policy, that's great. Hopefully, we can undo much of the damage already done, but ConDon cannot be allowed to claim this as a "win" for himself.
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)and how this POS is going to do it..NOT ONE CHILD LEFT BEHIND>>>>
jayschool2013
(2,312 posts)The order would keep families together, though it is unclear how Mr. Trump intends to claim the legal authority to violate what have been legal constraints on the proper treatment of children in government custody, which prevented former President Barack Obama from detaining families together during a similar flood of illegal immigration two years ago.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)Under President Obama, a far fewer number were charged with crimes, most were charged in civil court. Those charged in civil court were not sent to jail and families could be kept together.
Those that were charged criminally went to jail. Those that go to jail had to be separated from their families, even under President Obama ... but the number was far fewer.
Under tRump's "zero tolerance" program, every single one of them is being charged criminally ... so they go to jail ... and must be separated from their children. If they're still being charged criminally, I'm not sure how tRump will be able to EO his way out of this.
jayschool2013
(2,312 posts)LeftInTX
(25,277 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,142 posts)Trump EO only shows how bad his judgment really was and what an opportunitst he really is.
NO. MORAL. COMPASS.
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)the damage has been done. Just because the Shithole has been shamed into doing the right thing doesn't make this go away. These children have been abused anmd traumatized and it's not going to magically go away, no matter how hard the Shithole tries to make it do so.
groundloop
(11,518 posts)The damage done by Spanky's evil policy will last for years, he's just given every terrorist organization in the world fresh recruitment propaganda.
nature-lover
(1,469 posts)People who are wronged and shunned by a society will not assimilate (and who can blame them). This failure in a society will result in a next generation who are even further distanced. This outcome is not good for them or our country.
Hekate
(90,658 posts)elmac
(4,642 posts)lets just hope there is a way for those kids and parent to sue the hell out of trump and or the federal government.
briv1016
(1,570 posts)My bet is it'll have a time limit contingent on wall funding.
elmac
(4,642 posts)can file charges against the US and the monsters who are in control.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)and ban his businesses everywhere in the world.
elmac
(4,642 posts)spread the pain, stop US citizens from travel, doing biz, ect. That would be the straw needed to break the fascists control.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Then blamed the Democrats falsely for what he did. This was criminal. Anyone hurting children like this is a criminal.
mobeau69
(11,143 posts)mahannah
(893 posts)FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)TomCADem
(17,387 posts)...because he decided to take a brake from his killing ways.
Didnt Trump claim he had no choice but to separate children from their parents?
mobeau69
(11,143 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)and we cannot forget this. Pressure, especially since trump does not bear it well.
mobeau69
(11,143 posts)"Only Congress can fix it."
apnu
(8,756 posts)Did Obama have a deportation problem? Yes. Where there marches and protests? Yes. Did he listen and change his policy? Yes. Is Obama thought of well for this change? Yes.
Yes, you can Trump.
This policy is your's and your's alone, you started it, you can end it.
What an idiot Trump is.
Volaris
(10,270 posts)he wants ONE videotape of protesters being non-non-violent and getting into a tussle with local cops (or god forbid, federal agents) that he can play in every GOP campaign ad for the midterms. He wants this ramped up so he can weaponize it for political gain.
This shits as old as Antigone...we need to make our voices heard, yes. But we also need to be careful and not take the bait he's throwing in the water.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)It's on forever until that happens!
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,583 posts)I'll give Trump props for caving into pressure -- both national and international -- to stop his policy of ripping away the kids from their mothers, but unless it also reunites all the children that were separated the nation is still confronted with the shame of having boys, girls, and babies in concentration camps and internment centers.
We (Democrats, Republicans, journalists, governors, mayors, protesters, average citizens) have got to keep the pressure on until all the children are returned to their parents.
apnu
(8,756 posts)Unless he had an EO starting this whole thing off, I don't see a reason for an EO, other than kabuki theater. Given that Trump is all theatrics all the time, I can see why he'd want a fake show of "work", but beyond that, what's the point?
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,583 posts)He failed.
kimbutgar
(21,137 posts)They didnt think the outrage would be so bad. They thought everyone thought like them. This is a cowardly move on his part. He wont admit he fucked up and will blame the Democrats today again for not stopping this disaster he created.
DeminPennswoods
(15,285 posts)Dems and other anti-Trumpers should never forget this. Trump is so needy, his bully act is easily overcome with just the slightest push-back (and this blowback was a lot more than that).
Snellius
(6,881 posts)This policy will be thrown out by the courts. If zero-tolerance is left in place, then the parents have to be arrested. If the parents are arrested, according to Supreme Court in 1997, their family will have to be separated. Only a vote in Congress can change the law and with Repubs split so only Dems can do it. Trump is caught in a real trap.
LudwigPastorius
(9,137 posts)I'll just leave this totally unrelated .jpg here.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,583 posts)Was something else going on that day?
heaven05
(18,124 posts)I've read, children will still never see their parents again, right? Those 2 babies 8months and 11 months sent to foster care in Grand Rapids MICHIGAN that I read about in another OP. Will their parents be able to reunite with them? November cannot come quick enough. Genocide of Native-American people(s), decimated and forced onto reservations, potus andrew jackson and his "Trail of Tears" trumplike doctrine, enforced slavery of African people(s), internment of Japanese-Americans, forcibly taking children from their parents. Really a glaring fact as to how the real heinous ameriKKKan evil(s), humanitarian crimes has always been directed toward POC. Just a quick observation.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Until its seen , and looked over, and signed, this means absolutely nothing but another PR event for the liar in chief. He by doing this now is admitting he was lying all along blaming the Democrats , and saying they were to blame for actions he took with HIS policy. He and his minions were instructed to blatantly lie to the American people , again showing nothing but contempt for the truth. This presidents biggest enemy is the truth, and it exposing all his crimes. Which he should be charged with child abuse for what he's done to these children and held accountable for intentionally damaging them with his abuse of his powers. Where's the justice for the children and their families now? Where's Congress? He should pay for what he's done to these little children, or he'll just continue using this for hurting people, maybe our own children next time. He should have consequences, or is he above the rule of law? He should pay for what he's done to the reputation of our country.
PunkinPi
(4,875 posts)Link to tweet
If the new policy puts kids and parents in cages indefinitely thats better than kids in cages alone, but still illegal and immoral.
1:18 PM - Jun 20, 2018
The work continues...
Link to tweet