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(612 posts)
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 02:06 PM Jun 2018

Immigrant children forcibly drugged with 'powerful' psychotropics at Texas 'treatment center': lawsu

Source: Raw Story

In a new lawsuit, immigrant children detained at a government-funded facility in Texas described being forcibly drugged with psychotropic medicines that made them dizzy and unable to walk.

Reveal reported Wednesday that minors held at the Shiloh Treatment Center in Manvel, Texas — described in its Google+ listing as a “baby gulag” — were physically abused and given shots of “powerful” psychiatric medications that “rendered them unable to walk, afraid of people and wanting to sleep constantly.”


In the affidavits, the children and their parents said workers at the facility told them they would not be allowed to leave or see their parents if they didn’t take the medicine, which was administered via shots. The children were allegedly told the shots were “vitamins.”

“The supervisor told me I was going to get a medication injection to calm me down,” one girl said. “Two staff grabbed me, and the doctor gave me the injection despite my objection and left me there on the bed.”
According to one mother, her child “fell repeatedly, hitting her head, and ended up in a wheelchair.” Another “described trying to open a window and being hurled against a door by a Shiloh supervisor, who then choked her until she fainted.”

“One child was prescribed 10 different shots and pills including the antipsychotic drugs Latuda, Geodon and Olanzapine, the Parkinson’s medication Benztropin, the seizure medications Clonazepam and Divalproex, the nerve pain medication and antidepressant Duloxetine, and the cognition enhancer Guanfacine,” the report noted.

. . .

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/immigrant-children-forcibly-drugged-powerful-psychotropics-texas-treatment-center-lawsuit/



Read the article - it's awful. This is so awful it's hard to even post it. This private company was operating immigrant housing and abusing children there even in 2014! Are we evolving into the Fourth Reich?
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Immigrant children forcibly drugged with 'powerful' psychotropics at Texas 'treatment center': lawsu (Original Post) people Jun 2018 OP
THIS is what they've been hiding. That and the Soylent Green factory next door. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #1
Oh boy, Wellstone ruled Jun 2018 #2
OMG woundedkarma Jun 2018 #3
I just finished reading dgibby Jun 2018 #39
"that's life now" Perseus Jun 2018 #44
Amen! Delphinus Jun 2018 #46
Alan Dershowitz, paging Alan Dershowitz: Pres. Trump needs to you to NCjack Jun 2018 #4
Standard Bureau of Prisons policy pecosbob Jun 2018 #5
WTF??? Mrs. Overall Jun 2018 #6
if this true... handmade34 Jun 2018 #7
OMG! ButSeeYa Jun 2018 #8
This has GOT to stop!! Thekaspervote Jun 2018 #9
Horrible, yet believable. I've read this is done to people in nursing homes appalachiablue Jun 2018 #10
They do it to people not in nursing homes too! CountAllVotes Jun 2018 #20
How awful! Sorry for your mother, you and family. Some of the appalachiablue Jun 2018 #61
'New' lawsuit? Evidence from ongoing class action? elleng Jun 2018 #11
this is the article referenced, dated 2014. scipan Jun 2018 #41
Thanks. elleng Jun 2018 #43
this, if true heaven05 Jun 2018 #12
Who is running these prisons? Time to get some liability lawsuits against them. NCjack Jun 2018 #13
exactly onetexan Jun 2018 #15
Evil! backtoblue Jun 2018 #14
Private Prison Industrial Complex poli-junkie Jun 2018 #16
We have Assad as our fucked up wanna be dictator. bdamomma Jun 2018 #17
How is THIS the Democrats' fault? George II Jun 2018 #18
This is an ongoing problem, from at least 2014. scipan Jun 2018 #42
What's been going on the last couple of weeks has not happened before.... George II Jun 2018 #47
You then fail to see a relevant difference of degrees? LanternWaste Jun 2018 #49
Whos the Dr Mengele AZ8theist Jun 2018 #19
AGREE !!!! 3Hotdogs Jun 2018 #40
+100 Duppers Jun 2018 #60
And our government is using taxpayer money louis-t Jun 2018 #21
Congressman Trey Gowdy: A dodged investigation into the root cause of this fiasco and NCjack Jun 2018 #22
Excellent point, and this topic needs its own thread. flibbitygiblets Jun 2018 #29
Words fail after reading this info. So inhuman it doesn't seem possible. Thank you, people. n/t Judi Lynn Jun 2018 #23
What medical professional would do this? tinrobot Jun 2018 #24
Many years ago I remember watching a TV expose on kids who were warehoused procon Jun 2018 #25
What is "Reveal?" BadgerMom Jun 2018 #26
Just posted below, see post #27. nt PunkinPi Jun 2018 #28
Thank you. BadgerMom Jun 2018 #32
You're welcome. nt PunkinPi Jun 2018 #36
Chris Hayes retweets Reveal journalists piece, lending credence to these types of allegations... PunkinPi Jun 2018 #27
OMFG. This is going to be hard to blame on the Democrats... flibbitygiblets Jun 2018 #30
people, including the fucking doctors... dhill926 Jun 2018 #31
This is a preview people...this is all a test run to see what "works" best for what's coming... Moostache Jun 2018 #33
Obama was pres in 2014. THAT is not going to look so good. pangaia Jun 2018 #34
It's hard to rec a thread like this... LakeArenal Jun 2018 #35
I worked on a psychiatric unit... dawnie51 Jun 2018 #37
An article mentioned antitipsychotics with very limited FDA-approved uses in children and adolescent lunasun Jun 2018 #51
republicans are doing EVIL shit to children Achilleaze Jun 2018 #38
Yes. We are the Fourth Reich until something changes. ananda Jun 2018 #45
Texas has enough haters for a facility to run 24/7 like this and no one there speaks . Those drugs , lunasun Jun 2018 #48
this is not over. Not by a long shot. flibbitygiblets Jun 2018 #56
LOCK ANYONE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS UP! Takket Jun 2018 #50
I look forward to seeing the people who did this locked in cages themselves. axm Jun 2018 #52
Fascist Trump DHS has NO plan to re-unite children with parents. Truly evil ripping families apart Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #53
No words. northoftheborder Jun 2018 #54
THIS is what Trump is trying to get ahead of C_U_L8R Jun 2018 #55
This smacks so much of Nazi camps Paula Sims Jun 2018 #57
KICK :( Cha Jun 2018 #58
What the F...... laserhaas Jun 2018 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author End Of The Road Jun 2018 #62
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. Oh boy,
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 02:10 PM
Jun 2018

this is getting more ugly by the day. Sure how the media chases these stories and make the names and faces public. Then it stops.

 

woundedkarma

(498 posts)
3. OMG
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 02:12 PM
Jun 2018

I wasn't sure when someone said there was something they were hiding.. but omg it's ALWAYS worse than you think.

Assuming this is true and backed up... (how can you doubt it really.. that's life now)

HOW DO YOU GET WORSE THAN KIDNAPPING BABIES FROM PARENTS????

Where is the bottom?

It was sick already. There are no words.

dgibby

(9,474 posts)
39. I just finished reading
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 03:56 PM
Jun 2018

the lawsuit. It's true, and it's even worse than you can imagine. I'm a retired RN, and I can tell you that every medical professional involved in this should lose their licenses and be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. This is child abuse on steroids, and every bit as bad as what went on in those infamous Romanian orphanages. In addition to giving them the drugs, there are also accusations of physical abuse. I am beyond livid.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
44. "that's life now"
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 04:20 PM
Jun 2018

No, that is not life now, that is acceptance, we need to fight it, instruct other people, try to open other people's eyes to the reality of what is "temporarily" happening for all of us to help change it.

If we accept that the horrific things that are going on our country at this time then we are doomed...

There are so many other things that these criminals are doing behind everyone's backs, they are destroying, temporarily, everything that is good in the USA, but we cannot and shall not accept it as the norm, that is what they would like everyone to do...don't let them.

Everyone seems to be waiting for Muller, but we need to show other people who usually don't learn about these things and make sure they vote to take these criminals out of office.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
4. Alan Dershowitz, paging Alan Dershowitz: Pres. Trump needs to you to
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 02:14 PM
Jun 2018

report to the White House for a conference on how to defend lawsuits emerging from the forcible drugging of children, due to your policy of separation of children and parents at the Tex-Mex border.

pecosbob

(7,511 posts)
5. Standard Bureau of Prisons policy
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 02:15 PM
Jun 2018

BOP used to shoot up inmates with prolixin until they were nerve-damaged. Guess the policy made it's way to private prisons as well.

ButSeeYa

(273 posts)
8. OMG!
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 02:16 PM
Jun 2018

Just when I thought it could not get any worse...it does. I feel as though I could spit nails, I'm saddened and pissed off, at the same time. I hope this is blanketed over the MSM all day, everyday, until Trump is frog-marched out of the White House.

appalachiablue

(41,056 posts)
10. Horrible, yet believable. I've read this is done to people in nursing homes
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 02:22 PM
Jun 2018

to keep them out of it and 'less bothersome.'

CountAllVotes

(20,854 posts)
20. They do it to people not in nursing homes too!
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 02:51 PM
Jun 2018

They did it to my own mother.

After Dad died, they put her on Wellbutrin. She was not the same person! It was a drastic change in her personality. Oh how I hated that sh*t! She called them her "happy pills". Happy? WTF??

And yes, they drugged her up to shut her up. In the end, her "mental problems" ended being metastasized cancer! She was dead in 3 months!



appalachiablue

(41,056 posts)
61. How awful! Sorry for your mother, you and family. Some of the
Fri Jun 22, 2018, 12:56 PM
Jun 2018

psychotropic meds like Wellbutrin (related to Chantix maybe) cause bizarre side effects on some people and got a bad reputation, I think. The way powerful meds are easily dispensed and overused in prisons, nursing homes and other instances is disturbing and dangerous. These days you have to be careful about some meds, do a little homework especially with the large increase in prescription drugs in the last decades and much advertising and some iffy regulation. I'm not at all ant-medicine, people just need to know themselves and get good background info.

elleng

(130,156 posts)
11. 'New' lawsuit? Evidence from ongoing class action?
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 02:25 PM
Jun 2018

'Hundreds of pages of medical records were filed in the U.S. District Court in California in April. They were filed as part of an ongoing class action lawsuit against the government that alleges mistreatment of immigrant children in U.S. custody.'

'In the affidavits, the children and their parents said workers at the facility told them they would not be allowed to leave or see their parents if they didn’t take the medicine, which was administered via shots. The children were allegedly told the shots were “vitamins.”

“The supervisor told me I was going to get a medication injection to calm me down,” one girl said. “Two staff grabbed me, and the doctor gave me the injection despite my objection and left me there on the bed.”

According to one mother, her child “fell repeatedly, hitting her head, and ended up in a wheelchair.” Another “described trying to open a window and being hurled against a door by a Shiloh supervisor, who then choked her until she fainted.” . .

Hundreds of pages of medical records were filed in the U.S. District Court in California in April. They were filed as part of an ongoing class action lawsuit against the government that alleges mistreatment of immigrant children in U.S. custody.

Forensic psychiatrist Mark. J. Mills assessed the records at Reveal’s requests, and found that Shiloh orderlies were given an “unusually wide berth” with dosage recommendations for the children in their care.

Maribel Hernandez, a Honduran asylum-seeker whose son was held at Shiloh after being referred for “psychological issues” at another facility, told Reveal her case worker sent her a video of the boy in which he appeared “completely hypnotized and lethargic.” She said she repeatedly objected to the medication, and never signed consent forms. . .

Shiloh received $19 million in federal funding after repeated allegations of abuse at the facility. In 2014, the Reveal report noted, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) called for it to be shut down after a Houston Chronicle investigation revealed allegations of “physical violence, unreasonable and excessive use of physical restraints, administering emergency medications without notice to governmental authorities, and several deaths of minor children while in custody.”

scipan

(2,296 posts)
41. this is the article referenced, dated 2014.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 03:57 PM
Jun 2018

Federal agency's shelter oversight raises questions
By Susan CarrollDecember 19, 2014 Updated: December 20, 2014 11:30pm

(snip)
For years, children in custody at Shiloh have complained of physical abuses and painful restraints, a review of state licensing reports shows. Nearly four years ago, the state shut down another treatment center founded by the same Texas businessman after the death of a foster child who'd been restrained in a closet. The Brazoria County district attorney wrote letters to ORR months later, urging the federal government to increase monitoring at Shiloh.

Despite the warning and complaints, ORR exempts treatment centers like Shiloh from its policy requiring shelters to notify it each time a child is restrained or injected with "emergency medicine" - potent psychotropic drugs. The agency has not responded to a Freedom of Information Act request filed by the Houston Chronicle in January for monitoring reports and other communication with Shiloh.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/article/Federal-agency-s-shelter-oversight-raises-5969617.php

I don't know how much is new here. Apparently Shiloh is a center for troublesome cases and has a history of physical and mental abuse, and injecting psychotropic drugs to minors without oversight. I don't know what its status is now.

Following links to the original Raw Story article led me to this case: Flores v Jefferson B Sessions et al.
There is an opinion (below, bold is mine) by an appellate court saying plaintiffs have a right to a court hearing.

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-9th-circuit/1867061.html
United States Court of Appeals, Ninth Circuit.
JENNY LISETTE FLORES, Plaintiff-Appellee, v. JEFFERSON B. SESSIONS III, Attorney General; THOMAS E. PRICE, M.D., Secretary of Health and Human Services; JOHN KELLY, Secretary of Homeland Security; U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY; U.S. IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT, Defendants-Appellants.

No. 17-55208
Decided: July 05, 2017

Before: Reinhardt, Tashima, and Berzon, Circuit Judges.
OPINION

In this case we apply the straightforward tools of statutory construction in order to determine what the statutes before us are designed to do and not do. In performing this task we, of course, start by examining the words of the statutes. We then look to the statutes' clear purpose and intent. Specifically, we ask whether, without even mentioning the subject, the statutes invalidate a key provision of a consent decree to which the government is bound. In the process, we encounter a bureaucratic maze of alphabet agencies and examine how they can work together to carry out their shared and overlapping statutory duties. In the end, however, we arrive at a simple answer to our question. If Congress had intended to terminate the settlement agreement in whole or in part, it would have said so.

elleng

(130,156 posts)
43. Thanks.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 04:04 PM
Jun 2018

'In the process, we encounter a bureaucratic maze of alphabet agencies and examine how they can work together to carry out their shared and overlapping statutory duties. In the end, however, we arrive at a simple answer to our question. If Congress had intended to terminate the settlement agreement in whole or in part, it would have said so.'

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
12. this, if true
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 02:29 PM
Jun 2018

is horrendous Although given who we are reading about ADMINISTERING PSYCHOTROPIC DRUGS TO CHILDREN, I would tend to believe.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
13. Who is running these prisons? Time to get some liability lawsuits against them.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 02:31 PM
Jun 2018

Drain them until all they can do is fall onto the social safety net. Opps, I forgot. That's gone. Well happy hard landing.

onetexan

(12,994 posts)
15. exactly
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 02:36 PM
Jun 2018

i'm under the impression the only way to do reparation for these families is to grant them asylum and permanent residency. That and for the gov to pay for years of therapy for the children.

backtoblue

(11,323 posts)
14. Evil!
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 02:35 PM
Jun 2018

These children are being fucking stripped from their parents. Caged. Drugged. This is nothing short of torture!



bdamomma

(63,658 posts)
17. We have Assad as our fucked up wanna be dictator.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 02:40 PM
Jun 2018

now they are administering drugs into these babies, no wonder they don't want anyone to see. These places should be busted into. This is being done in our name. History repeats itself and now in 2018 we are committing atrocities against migrant babies and young children. These SOB's need to be prosecuted.


Crimes against humanity.

Everyone say Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon these perpetrators need their asses handed to them.

George II

(67,782 posts)
47. What's been going on the last couple of weeks has not happened before....
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 04:27 PM
Jun 2018

...there are different types or categories of people crossing the border "illegally".

Many of those affected recently are asylum seekers crossing the border at border crossings, which in a sense is legal. However, even those seeking asylum in accordance with the law have been separated from their children, and just the other day Sessions eliminated whole categories of conditions under which people could seek asylum.

This has NOT been going on since at least 2014, this is something new.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
49. You then fail to see a relevant difference of degrees?
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 04:32 PM
Jun 2018

You then fail to see a relevant difference of degrees, up to, including, and beyond the reclassification of immigrant v. asylum seeker which has only recently happened?

AZ8theist

(5,339 posts)
19. Whos the Dr Mengele
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 02:44 PM
Jun 2018

thats injecting these children??

These Nazi doctors need to be brought up on charges and have their licenses revoked.

louis-t

(23,199 posts)
21. And our government is using taxpayer money
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 02:58 PM
Jun 2018

to buy these drugs (no doubt at inflated prices). Big Pharma and private prison system win again!

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
22. Congressman Trey Gowdy: A dodged investigation into the root cause of this fiasco and
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 03:03 PM
Jun 2018

its unabated continuance in face of evidence of its failings are needed.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
29. Excellent point, and this topic needs its own thread.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 03:25 PM
Jun 2018

As in, if the R's won't start an investigation into this, in November, the D's will.

--Who ordered it?
--Who benefitted from it?
--What was the damage to the children?
--How many children were "lost"?
--How much did it cost the US taxpayers?

procon

(15,805 posts)
25. Many years ago I remember watching a TV expose on kids who were warehoused
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 03:17 PM
Jun 2018

in horrible Romanian orphanages. There are many articles on the internet documenting what happened to those children. They were locked into individual cribs that looked like elevated cages with iron bars, or tied to their beds to keep them confined 24/7. They were heavily medicated to keep them quiet. They all suffered from delayed cognitive development, couldn't talk, and had to be hand fed and diapered because they never had any human contact to teach them anything. The forced confinement left them mentally and physically crippled for life.

BadgerMom

(2,766 posts)
26. What is "Reveal?"
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 03:22 PM
Jun 2018

That's the source for Raw Story, a news aggregator. Believe me, it's not that I regard anything as being beyond the pale for these monsters, but sourcing is important.

PunkinPi

(4,870 posts)
27. Chris Hayes retweets Reveal journalists piece, lending credence to these types of allegations...
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 03:23 PM
Jun 2018



.@aurabogado and @reveal have been doing incredible reporting on this (and long before this particular crisis)


link to article via Twitter (longish and horrifying read) -> https://www.revealnews.org/article/migrant-children-sent-to-shelters-with-histories-of-abuse-allegations/

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
30. OMFG. This is going to be hard to blame on the Democrats...
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 03:28 PM
Jun 2018

No WONDER they won't let reporters in to see what's going on.

LOCK THESE FUCKERS UP!!!

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
33. This is a preview people...this is all a test run to see what "works" best for what's coming...
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 03:31 PM
Jun 2018

Drugged people warehoused in barracks-like (or worse) systems? Can't happen here? Wrong...HAPPENED already.

What is the demographic calamity that is just really getting started? The aging and dying of the Baby Boomers. My parents are in their 70's and should they live into their mid-80's they will exhaust their retirement savings and be left with social security and Medicaid. They are part of the millions of Americans in similar or worse situations. My 70 year old mother in law is already nearly destitute, riddled with health problems and steaming towards a very uncertain future.

The government is going to have to do something about this issue, something that they do not want to but will be forced to do to keep the images of thousands of destitute, homeless seniors dying in mass public death camps...imagine Central Park in NYC or Grant's Park in Chicago filled with tents and thousands of dying people with no where else to go and nothing to survive on...it's coming.

So, what's the solution? Warehouses of people, drugged and sedated to make them manageable. Dying in horrifying conditions, but doing so out of the public eye and cameras. Because we can't see it won't make it any less horrifying or wrong.

Past is prologue indeed...

LakeArenal

(28,729 posts)
35. It's hard to rec a thread like this...
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 03:43 PM
Jun 2018

So awful and so important at the same time. But rec I did.

Only thing is we are devolving not evolving...

dawnie51

(959 posts)
37. I worked on a psychiatric unit...
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 03:55 PM
Jun 2018

over 25 years. The meds mentioned here are heavy duty psych drugs, not for children. I want to see charges, god damn it. I want to see indictments of these SOBs.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
51. An article mentioned antitipsychotics with very limited FDA-approved uses in children and adolescent
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 04:35 PM
Jun 2018

It's an experimental nightmare

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
48. Texas has enough haters for a facility to run 24/7 like this and no one there speaks . Those drugs ,
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 04:32 PM
Jun 2018

add the language barrier and image what is still not being found out about what's going on there

 

axm

(91 posts)
52. I look forward to seeing the people who did this locked in cages themselves.
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 04:40 PM
Jun 2018

Hopefully for many many years.

C_U_L8R

(44,897 posts)
55. THIS is what Trump is trying to get ahead of
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 05:19 PM
Jun 2018

There is lot more we don't know... This is absolutely war crime level stuff
and might not even be the worst of it. Trump little EO ploy today is a
meaningless diversion. Don't let up on these fuckers. It's worse than
you might imagine.

Paula Sims

(877 posts)
57. This smacks so much of Nazi camps
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 06:19 PM
Jun 2018

I can truly see their saying : Work will set you free (Arbeit Macht Frei)...

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