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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 07:59 AM Jan 2012

Rohnert Park police find assault rifle, grenade launcher in home after accidental shooting

A 36-year-old Rohnert Park man was arrested Friday night after he allegedly fired a .50-caliber black-powder rifle inside his house. Officers arrived at the suspect's home on Bridgit Drive around 11 p.m. Friday following a report of gunfire.

A woman walked out with a rifle and a pellet gun and told officers her boyfriend, Shawn Robert Kaffun, was inside with their 9-year-old son and had accidentally fired the rifle into the floor while showing it to a friend.

After 15 minutes, officers coaxed Kaffun to come out with his son, police said. He reportedly appeared to be under the influence of alcohol. During a sweep of the house, officers noted ammunition for other weapons as well as an apparent bullet hole in the kitchen floor.

Kaffun, who has a felony conviction for shooting a firearm into an inhabited dwelling or vehicle from 1998, is prohibited from possessing guns or ammunition, according to officials.

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20120107/articles/120109636&tc=yahoo

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Rohnert Park police find assault rifle, grenade launcher in home after accidental shooting (Original Post) onehandle Jan 2012 OP
What the hell??!! ROHNERT PARK? That's a nice area and relatively blue Ecumenist Jan 2012 #1
Unfortunately, more and more people are arming up nowadays -- even Democrats. Hoyt Jan 2012 #2
Not just firearms. Remmah2 Jan 2012 #18
Uh, more like this... Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #3
.50 caliber is very common for a black powder rifle. Lasher Jan 2012 #4
Black powder .50 = muzzle loader Mopar151 Jan 2012 #6
LOL!! I'm telling you Mopar, Ecumenist Jan 2012 #8
Ol' Charley Weaver said it best! Mopar151 Jan 2012 #14
The Hair of the dog is definitely playing a big part- Ecumenist Jan 2012 #16
The rifle was a muzzle loader, not a BMG round. oneshooter Jan 2012 #9
It was a black powder muzzle loader. It isn't even really a rifle. DWilliamsamh Jan 2012 #15
That distinction can only be made by an act of a legislative body Jack Rabbit Jan 2012 #20
There IS an important distiction - DWilliamsamh Jan 2012 #26
There are muzzle-loading pistols and rifles that have rifled barrels. slackmaster Jan 2012 #27
I largely agree.... DWilliamsamh Jan 2012 #28
What does any of that have to do with political affiliation or drugs? n/t PavePusher Jan 2012 #29
It's as normal as having a Keurig in the kitchen TheCowsCameHome Jan 2012 #5
Sounds like the mother did the smart thing to come out and FailureToCommunicate Jan 2012 #7
The so-called "assault rifle" was an AR-15, which (being semiautomatic) isn't an assault rifle. Jean V. Dubois Jan 2012 #10
Yes, but as a convicted felon there is no way he can have it legally slackmaster Jan 2012 #12
Quite true. As for the "grenade launcher", your wild guess is almost certainly true. Jean V. Dubois Jan 2012 #13
Basic gun safety should be taught in public schools slackmaster Jan 2012 #11
He must have had a military career. Remmah2 Jan 2012 #17
Are you inferring career military personnel are idiots? n/t vminfla Jan 2012 #19
I think he/she was just going for the "Major Idiot" pun tkmorris Jan 2012 #21
Only officers. Remmah2 Jan 2012 #22
Makes sense, college education is not what it once was vminfla Jan 2012 #23
The only officers worth a hoot are the mustangs. Remmah2 Jan 2012 #25
this was literally next door to me. rivercat Jan 2012 #24
Did you hear anything? Ecumenist Jan 2012 #30

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
1. What the hell??!! ROHNERT PARK? That's a nice area and relatively blue
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 08:46 AM
Jan 2012

Wow, a 50 caliber? Let me guess...METH..

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Unfortunately, more and more people are arming up nowadays -- even Democrats.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:02 AM
Jan 2012

The number of guns -- and attitude toward them -- are a national problem waiting to happen.
 

Atypical Liberal

(5,412 posts)
3. Uh, more like this...
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:03 AM
Jan 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawken_rifle

The article says it was a black powder rifle. This is a muzzle-loader. It's not even considered a firearm under the GCA of 1968.


Lasher

(27,541 posts)
4. .50 caliber is very common for a black powder rifle.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:21 AM
Jan 2012

The projectile has a low velocity compared to modern bullets, and therefore requires higher mass to be effective.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
8. LOL!! I'm telling you Mopar,
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:22 AM
Jan 2012

There's something else involved in this situation, trust me. It'll come out soon, I just know it.

Mopar151

(9,975 posts)
14. Ol' Charley Weaver said it best!
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:01 PM
Jan 2012

(On the old Hollywood Squares)

How high do you have to be to skydive, Charly?

"Three days a' steady drinkin' oughta do it!"

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
16. The Hair of the dog is definitely playing a big part-
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:06 PM
Jan 2012

but there's something else there... I may be wrong but I feel it in my gut.

DWilliamsamh

(1,445 posts)
15. It was a black powder muzzle loader. It isn't even really a rifle.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:05 PM
Jan 2012

The guy is a world class idiot for handling any loaded weapon while loaded. And yeah he was a convicted idiot and should go to jail for breaking his parole.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
20. That distinction can only be made by an act of a legislative body
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 02:14 PM
Jan 2012

It fires bullets and goes bang bang. But it isn't what it appears to be.

DWilliamsamh

(1,445 posts)
26. There IS an important distiction -
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 10:15 AM
Jan 2012

a rifle has rifling that makes it much more accurate. Muzzle loader by nature doesn't, and also doesn't have as tight a tolerance beteen the bore and projectile, and because of this has a much lower muzzle velocity - hence a .50cal projectile to compensate, that is much less accurate.

The reason the distinction is important - is because like most people when you hear .50 cal you think Stallone and fully automatic weapons that fire hundreds of rounds per minute. This is a very different weapon.

I only make a distinction because A: a reporter shouldn't call something a rifle that by definition isn't a rifle. Sloppiness begets sloppiness. B: the picture in the head (and the effectiveness in reality) is MUCH different between the muzzle loader and a .50 Cal machine gun. They can both kill but they are different.

My comment about this guy needing to be in jail stands - no one, much less a convict on parole for a weapons charge should be hadling ANY loaded weapon drunk.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
27. There are muzzle-loading pistols and rifles that have rifled barrels.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 11:01 AM
Jan 2012
...and also doesn't have as tight a tolerance beteen the bore and projectile, and because of this has a much lower muzzle velocity - hence a .50cal projectile to compensate, that is much less accurate....

Rifle muskets were used with devastating effect during the American Civil War. They're reasonably accurate out to 100 yards or more.

My comment about this guy needing to be in jail stands - no one, much less a convict on parole for a weapons charge should be hadling ANY loaded weapon drunk.

He should never have been let out of jail in the first place.

DWilliamsamh

(1,445 posts)
28. I largely agree....
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 11:16 AM
Jan 2012

Of course muzzle loaders can be deadly. They are fire arms after all...my point was simply there is a difference between what most people think of when someone says .50 Cal and the weapon in this case.

On your second point: Agreed. This dude should have served his whole sentence. He was probably let out because his bunk was needed for a teenager caught with four doobies.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,007 posts)
7. Sounds like the mother did the smart thing to come out and
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:14 AM
Jan 2012

caution that her son was still inside. Lucky for her (she had a rifle) police waited to react.

The article goes on to mention an AR-15 assault rifle -- with attached grenade launcher - was also found...and found to have been stolen.

 

Jean V. Dubois

(101 posts)
10. The so-called "assault rifle" was an AR-15, which (being semiautomatic) isn't an assault rifle.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:59 AM
Jan 2012

Oh, well. The last thing I expect from the press is accuracy regarding firearms.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
12. Yes, but as a convicted felon there is no way he can have it legally
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 11:08 AM
Jan 2012

I'm going to take a wild guess that the "attached grenade launcher" is a perfectly legal 37 mm flare launcher.

http://37mm.com/

 

Jean V. Dubois

(101 posts)
13. Quite true. As for the "grenade launcher", your wild guess is almost certainly true.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 11:22 AM
Jan 2012

How many black market M203s are there out there, and what's the chance this particular loser would somehow get possession of one?

"Attached flare launcher" doesn't sound nearly scary enough, though.

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
21. I think he/she was just going for the "Major Idiot" pun
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 02:14 PM
Jan 2012

I am ex-military. I am no idiot, and am also not offended.

 

Remmah2

(3,291 posts)
25. The only officers worth a hoot are the mustangs.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:29 PM
Jan 2012

Or other officers who've worked their way up the ranks. Experience.

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