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brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 12:46 PM Jul 2018

Schumer privately asked Trump to nominate Merrick Garland to Supreme Court: report

Source: The Hill

Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) privately urged President Trump in a phone conversation to nominate Merrick Garland, former President Obama's Supreme Court nominee from 2016, to replace the retiring Justice Anthony Kennedy.

The Washington Post reported on Thursday that Schumer told Trump in phone call that lasted less than five minutes on Tuesday that the move would help unite the country, noting that Democrats are still angry about Senate Republicans' refusal to act on Garland's nomination in the final year of Obama's presidency.

The Democratic leader also reportedly warned the president against nominating a potential justice to the Supreme Court who would vote to overturn Roe V. Wade, stating that such a move would be "cataclysmic" and damaging to Trump's legacy, according to a person familiar with the call.

Schumer previously wrote in an op-ed for The New York Times that a potential nominee's position on abortion rights could likely be a deciding factor in their Senate nomination battle.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/395617-schumer-privately-asked-trump-to-nominate-merrick-garland-to-supreme-court

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Schumer privately asked Trump to nominate Merrick Garland to Supreme Court: report (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2018 OP
Are you f****ing kidding me? Girard442 Jul 2018 #1
Seems like a clever way to troll Trump and remind people of the Republicans' hypocrisy. yardwork Jul 2018 #69
Are you? Surely you wouldn't rather have an archconservative Hortensis Jul 2018 #81
Well, I'd rather pay $50,000 for a $750,000 home too - but I got a feeling if I made that offer, Midwestern Democrat Jul 2018 #88
So you think this is worth bashing Schumer for? (nt) ehrnst Jul 2018 #89
Well there was a 0.0001% chance he would have done that before unblock Jul 2018 #2
Well, that's utterly embarrassing BeyondGeography Jul 2018 #3
And Trump did this Hawaii Hiker Jul 2018 #4
Post removed Post removed Jul 2018 #5
Tell me this isn't true. Please. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2018 #6
"It's time to go, Chuck." LenaBaby61 Jul 2018 #26
His time is way over due. jrthin Jul 2018 #35
Thank you for calling his office ..... LenaBaby61 Jul 2018 #63
I don't think he did anything terrible. zanana1 Jul 2018 #95
What makes Schumer think that DT will consider Garland? LiberalFighter Jul 2018 #7
If DT were smart and wanted to gain a TON of goodwill from those against him... forgotmylogin Jul 2018 #24
Not too late to start, LiFer Hortensis Jul 2018 #83
Not the Onion, I guess. elleng Jul 2018 #8
"...damaging to Trump's legacy"?!?! PatSeg Jul 2018 #9
I agree. Not sure I understand the disdain here. MGKrebs Jul 2018 #12
Yes, very savvy PatSeg Jul 2018 #17
,,, lapucelle Jul 2018 #45
i don't see any harm in asking either onetexan Jul 2018 #59
I Don't Either RobinA Jul 2018 #71
There are some really mondo bizarro posts here, almost like some people... Hekate Jul 2018 #75
"a relatively reasonable president" -so that rules out basically all the Republicans now in office. NYC Liberal Jul 2018 #41
That's for sure PatSeg Jul 2018 #53
First the leaders were corrupted, then being Hortensis Jul 2018 #84
How pathetic... Chicago1980 Jul 2018 #10
So, are you suggesting new blood that doesn't want to deal via diplomacy? erronis Jul 2018 #28
Post removed Post removed Jul 2018 #33
Try to look beyond one simplistic dimension. it's difficult and takes disciplined, but it's worth it LanternWaste Jul 2018 #44
"New blood" seems to mean mindless hostility for too many. Hortensis Jul 2018 #85
"New blood" would not do the basic crossing of Ts and dotting of Is? ehrnst Jul 2018 #67
Schumer is actually right. roamer65 Jul 2018 #11
Bingo! secondwind Jul 2018 #23
Yep. If DT were shrewd, nominating Garland would be a massive chess move by him. forgotmylogin Jul 2018 #25
When you're owned by and have only ONE master in putin ... LenaBaby61 Jul 2018 #30
Let's not assume he's blackmailed ONLY Hortensis Jul 2018 #86
I trust our experts .... LenaBaby61 Jul 2018 #93
Actually, I so agree. I was referring to trashing Hortensis Jul 2018 #94
I agree. LisaM Jul 2018 #31
+agree Schumer's just making the rhetorical point for the record Snellius Jul 2018 #34
Our media is unfortunately why this won't happen. Sanders4life Jul 2018 #37
So a Dem President would nominate a moderate Republican? forthemiddle Jul 2018 #43
Agree. It's better than screaming and stomping our feet, which is Hoyt Jul 2018 #46
While the advice is good, giving it to Trumper isn't wise. Trumper is a EricJohnson Jul 2018 #48
A sane president would do that? Yupster Jul 2018 #61
Yep - and he would be criticized as "meek" or "ineffectual" for not putting it forth ehrnst Jul 2018 #66
exactly. I'm truly mystified by some other replies in this thread. JHan Jul 2018 #73
Guessing more useful as Rorhsach-type clues than otherwise. Hortensis Jul 2018 #87
A trade to call off the dogs on the Russia investigation? exboyfil Jul 2018 #13
Interesting, but if there is one thing we know about the Trumpster, MGKrebs Jul 2018 #21
That was my first thought Yupster Jul 2018 #68
That would be a healing gesture bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #14
Attempting to negotiate like NY acquaintances or pals. How's that working for us? Tatiana Jul 2018 #15
Why are people upset about this? Orangepeel Jul 2018 #16
I am not upset. I am glad Schumer asked Trump. riversedge Jul 2018 #18
Me, too. It creates a space for developing good will and good governance. Which the country needs. ancianita Jul 2018 #38
It doesn't hurt to ask for what we want IronLionZion Jul 2018 #36
Because there are some here for whom Chuck Schumer can do nothing right. GoCubsGo Jul 2018 #90
Good idea. It shows once again that the Dems are reasonable and Trump is not. pnwmom Jul 2018 #19
If you're looking for a reason for the Rs to consider impeaching tRump stopbush Jul 2018 #20
I think Schumer did the right thing. n/t murielm99 Jul 2018 #22
I wonder who laughed first. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2018 #27
I hope Schumer used a Russian accent andym Jul 2018 #29
By doing this, Schumer made certain his t's are crossed and his i's dotted... LanternWaste Jul 2018 #32
Exactly. A wise move on his part. ancianita Jul 2018 #39
What is wrong with Chuck Schumer? BlueJac Jul 2018 #40
What's wrong with him? Nothing except that he's not he who shall not be mentioned. George II Jul 2018 #57
LOL SunSeeker Jul 2018 #62
Why don't you tell us? (nt) ehrnst Jul 2018 #64
I hope nobody here actually believes Schumer thought Trump would do it. NYC Liberal Jul 2018 #42
Good move on Schumer's part mcar Jul 2018 #47
Of course that's the only thing that makes sense Rhiannon12866 Jul 2018 #49
It's worth a shot, but Trump's ego is simply too massive to ever let a sane thought penetrate Tarc Jul 2018 #50
He was an Obama pick for god's sake. Does Schumer really think Trump would go for that? OMG. YOHABLO Jul 2018 #51
If I Were Schumer RobinA Jul 2018 #72
He did something. Turbineguy Jul 2018 #52
Beyond words in2herbs Jul 2018 #54
Gee, I guess he should have done the same strategy that some self-identifed progressives did in 2016 still_one Jul 2018 #55
Good for him. It was a long shot but certainly worth a shot in the first place. George II Jul 2018 #56
Even if he did it the Senate would just refuse to consent Shrek Jul 2018 #58
WOW, Trump listening to a minority leader Raine Jul 2018 #60
Of course if he didn't ask directly or demand it, he'd be skewered by those here who ehrnst Jul 2018 #65
He would never nominate him nt Napolion Jul 2018 #70
Smart move. At one time the GOP said he was acceptable, & he IS a sober type, not an ideologue... Hekate Jul 2018 #74
Even the Hill Newspaper.... FarPoint Jul 2018 #76
Reaching across the aisle saidsimplesimon Jul 2018 #77
and Al Gore for EPA administrator jg10003 Jul 2018 #78
We never learn jgmiller Jul 2018 #79
Well, Schumer talked to him and then leaked it to the press, MGKrebs Jul 2018 #82
This could be a photo of Schumer asking Trump to nominate a moderate ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2018 #80
He's just messing with him Red Mountain Jul 2018 #91
PLEASE! Chuck was trying to save Roe v. Wade, among other vital causes we Dems care about CTyankee Jul 2018 #92

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
81. Are you? Surely you wouldn't rather have an archconservative
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 02:25 PM
Jul 2018

who'll ignore and reverse precedents in civil liberties and progressive government to subject the will of the people to the wealthy? As opposed to a top legal scholar with centrist views, who is widely respected and admired by his few equals?

Or is it that you imagine Senator Schumer doesn't know what he's doing?

Maybe read about both Gorsuch and Schumer, and think of Schumer as a...general. Not one of the "stupid" generals of Trump's imaginings either. In either case, best put that knee in neutral and engage brain? Your own life, and/or lives of those you love, could depend on it.

Besides, even though Trump might have accepted, and might still (stranger things have happened), chances were almost nil. This was a strategic political move by Schumer.

It's going to be a bumpy ride, and understanding what's happening will at least help prevent some unnecessary emotional bruising.

88. Well, I'd rather pay $50,000 for a $750,000 home too - but I got a feeling if I made that offer,
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 07:03 PM
Jul 2018

the seller would tell me to "Get the hell out of here and don't ever contact me again". Nobody likes having their time wasted and their intelligence insulted with ridiculous, incredibly one sided offers/proposals.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
2. Well there was a 0.0001% chance he would have done that before
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 12:52 PM
Jul 2018

Not that he knows it's what Schumer wants, the chances are less than zero.

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
6. Tell me this isn't true. Please.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 01:04 PM
Jul 2018

WTF

And he warned Trump that it would damage his legacy????????????

It's time to go, Chuck.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
26. "It's time to go, Chuck."
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 02:48 PM
Jul 2018

I've never liked Schumer. EVER.

Calling Schumer "weak sauce" insults weak sauce.

jrthin

(4,835 posts)
35. His time is way over due.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:11 PM
Jul 2018

After he tried the high road act against Mazine, I called his office and said that I don't think he is the voice for our time.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
63. Thank you for calling his office .....
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 10:24 PM
Jul 2018

And if his assistant told him what you said about him calling Maxine out, he probably couldn't care LESS. Probably thinking about how to schmooze up to tRump who called him cryin' Chuck Schumer

He really needs to go. He's no voice of the Dem party.

zanana1

(6,110 posts)
95. I don't think he did anything terrible.
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 08:51 AM
Jul 2018

He was just trying to persuade Trump that it would be in his best interest if he didn't nominate an extremist.

forgotmylogin

(7,527 posts)
24. If DT were smart and wanted to gain a TON of goodwill from those against him...
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 02:42 PM
Jul 2018

...that actually wouldn't be a bad strategic move.

It isn't going to happen, though.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
83. Not too late to start, LiFer
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 02:46 PM
Jul 2018

Btw, fighting should start after identifying allies and enemies. First do no harm.

Just a thought.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
9. "...damaging to Trump's legacy"?!?!
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 01:21 PM
Jul 2018

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day!

It was a pretty shrewd idea on Schumer's part and a relatively reasonable president would probably consider it. I wouldn't hold my breath on this one though.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
12. I agree. Not sure I understand the disdain here.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 01:28 PM
Jul 2018

No harm in asking is there?

I wonder who leaked it. Since all the info comes from Schumer's side it's almost certainly from his office.
And if Garland was qualified in 2016 why wouldn't he be qualified now? I think it's a pretty savvy move.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
17. Yes, very savvy
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 02:10 PM
Jul 2018

It would also make McConnell look like a total fool, something he really deserves.

I think if the suggestion came at just the right time, Trump might actually consider it, but you just know he would change his mind in a couple of hours. Look at how reasonable he was about DACA kids and gun legislation for a few minutes.

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
59. i don't see any harm in asking either
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 07:42 PM
Jul 2018

worst the idiot-in-chief could do is say no and select one of his ilks, which we assume he's gonna do anyway.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
71. I Don't Either
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 11:51 AM
Jul 2018

It's a hail Mary pass. If it doesn't work (likely) it's no harm no foul. If it does (very unlikely) it's a better outcome for this very important situation than one could ever expect. Lotta liberals don't even like Garland, which is certainly a selling point. This is Trump we're talking about. I might say to him, Hey, Obama couldn't get this guy confirmed, but I bet you can. Remember, Trump isn't the sharpest tool.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
75. There are some really mondo bizarro posts here, almost like some people...
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 01:40 PM
Jul 2018

..have no idea what "politics" is.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
41. "a relatively reasonable president" -so that rules out basically all the Republicans now in office.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:34 PM
Jul 2018

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
53. That's for sure
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 06:14 PM
Jul 2018

The entire party is clearly schizophrenic now. When I was young, I remember the republicans as being more the "grownups". Though I largely disagreed with them, they were rational and reasonable. One could carry on an intelligent debate with them. Now they are all carnival barkers and snake oil salesmen.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
84. First the leaders were corrupted, then being
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 02:52 PM
Jul 2018

a loyal follower required supporting them in corruption. And in that way most followers became so corrupted they'll now even support extremely cruelty to children. All in service to their country.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
28. So, are you suggesting new blood that doesn't want to deal via diplomacy?
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 02:51 PM
Jul 2018

Is that what the forces antagonistic to democracy want? Get rid of diplomats and people that have studied history?

Response to Chicago1980 (Reply #10)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
44. Try to look beyond one simplistic dimension. it's difficult and takes disciplined, but it's worth it
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:54 PM
Jul 2018

Your reponse, wholly unsupported by any objective evidence plus the polarity of the Tide Pod challenge convince me new blood is just another bumper-sticker lacking any rational thought behind it.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
85. "New blood" seems to mean mindless hostility for too many.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 02:57 PM
Jul 2018

The Democratic Party has a conservative wing, a fair number of left-wing extremists, and always those fringe pegs who don't fit anywhere and can roll off various directions, but I'm pretty sure most of them don't realize that about themselves.

Same here in the deep south, where a number of lifelong Republicans might be very insulted if I told them I suspected they were liberal by nature.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
67. "New blood" would not do the basic crossing of Ts and dotting of Is?
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 10:37 AM
Jul 2018

or would they, like you, simply call doing first things first, "pathetic?"

If that's "New Blood," it's not going to be very effective, just loud and combative.

You have to learn to play checkers before you play chess.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
11. Schumer is actually right.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 01:27 PM
Jul 2018

It is what a sane president would do to heal the divide, but with this insane whack job there is zero chance.

Now at least he can say he tried to negotiate.

forgotmylogin

(7,527 posts)
25. Yep. If DT were shrewd, nominating Garland would be a massive chess move by him.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 02:46 PM
Jul 2018

He could gloat for a week how bipartisan and nonbiased he is. It would take the heat off this rush to confirm someone and some pressure off all the Reps up for reelection in midterms.

Heck even just pretending to consider Garland would be good for optics.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
30. When you're owned by and have only ONE master in putin ...
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 02:55 PM
Jul 2018

You're not going to entertain listening to ANYTHING anyone has to say from the USA, let along from Schumer. Didn't Fatso call him "Crying Chuck Schumer?" Such respect for Schumer

tRump's allegiance to oligarchy and to turning this country into a complete MESS, and into the USSA because putin wants it that way, OR ELSE.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
86. Let's not assume he's blackmailed ONLY
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 03:00 PM
Jul 2018

by Putin. From what we've learned, he's lead such an incompetently corrupt, and depraved, life that I'd be surprised if one or more of our American blocs wasn't holding something over him. Money is power, and our extremist billionaire opponents have enormous power.

Trump doesn't know what it is to know something. Do you? Imo, a LOT more respect for experts is in order. Especially for those on our side. Rejecting the value of expertise is a right-wing ploy (and dutiful fault for dutiful right-wing followers).

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
93. I trust our experts ....
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 10:24 PM
Jul 2018

And also in the process, but tRump won't and can't. He has to continue trashing them in any way he can, also destroy their reputations, because putin told him to, and he's also trying his best to normalize a murderous, greedy, authoritarian, ex-kgb agent who wants tRump to help him keep Crimea, have all US
sanctions againt him lifted, stay in power forever (Just like tRump wants to). On top of tRump trashing our Intel agencies, he goes after Dems and he's been going after Mueller by name. putin's coordinating and chiming in & saying that the 'witch hunters' going after his boy are all 'deep state' members. We see tRump weakening our country, we've seen him speaking for a long time about getting rid of NATO--Replacing it of course with nothing because Vlad doesn't want anything to replace NATO so he's free to roam & maraud all over in Europe. All of the relationships we had with our allies are slowly dissolving. tRump feels free to normalize putin by saying that he's "fine." tRump's dog and pony show with putin will further dissolve our standing in the world and further destroy whatever relationship we have left with our allies. Of course most in the treasonous GOP are fine with this, because they're on tRump's/putin's side.

Finally, I'll stuck to what I said and it's that putin is running our foreign policy, he's the head puppet master and the only person tRump cares about or listens to. putin's mined him since about 2013, and he has to pay his puppet master back for all he's done in helping him to become president. I explained that I trust the process and our Intel agencies, but enough cannot be said about what former FBI director James Comey did to Hillary Clinton. He "decided" to inform Congress 11 days before the 2016 GE, that he was re-opening an FBI investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server (Comey himself used Gmail for official FBI business numerous times 🙄 ). He still defends this "decision" by saying that he was "sure" Hillary was going to win the election. Meanwhile, the FBI/CIA had been investigating tRump's campaign, yet that never came out until way after the fact. We also know that many agents working out of that SDNY office, Ghouliani's old playground, hated Hillary because they felt she'd gotten away with "so much," whatever so much means. In general, they hated Hillary enough to coordinate with other rogue agents in that office to hold onto those so-called "newly" discovered classified emails found on Weiner's laptop for as long as they could, NOT go through them (Which would have shown that the emails weren't new at all--they were the SAME ones already gone through) then drop them into Comey's lap at the last minute, which lead Comey to re-open something that should never have been re-opened. But his announcement put the cherry on top of other things which destroyed a Hillary Clinton presidency. As for Andrew McCabe, people are still trying to find out what this former FBI deputy directors role in all of this mess was. We know what tRump feels about him.

So yes, I trust the process and our Intel agencies for the most part still, but for tRump to also have been investigated and Comey to not think that it warranted a mention because he felt that Hillary would win the presidency was ridiculous to say the least.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
94. Actually, I so agree. I was referring to trashing
Mon Jul 9, 2018, 08:34 AM
Jul 2018

Senator Schumer and others as idiots who have to "go," but what you're addressing, basically absolutely.

The question isn't whether there is massive subversive right-wing conspiracy to change our nation into something its people would never vote for if asked to. There is.

Among many questions are how many conspiracies, who's allied in which with what goals, what have they done, which are actionable crimes, etc. And of course people in the FBI, including Comey and McCabe, misused their offices to throw power to the right. Who are they working with, besides high-ups in the NYT and AP, of course? Also of course the dominionist right is conspiring, with overlap with conservative religious billionaires. Of course there's a whole Koch "libertarian" bloc. Russia and its export of corruption helping them all.

Again, so agree.

LisaM

(27,801 posts)
31. I agree.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 02:58 PM
Jul 2018

Trump is so capricious anyway, and he's like a kid on a merry-go-round, grasping for the meaningless brass ring. If it ends up saying Merrick Garland on it, so much the better.

 

Sanders4life

(5 posts)
37. Our media is unfortunately why this won't happen.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:19 PM
Jul 2018

You would think it would heal the divide, but our side of the media (everything besides faux news), would quickly switch from news of the positive nomination to whatever Trump does next warranting bashing. That means any good will this nomination would buy would be fleeting at best.

Trump's disdain for the media at least says he's aware of this fact.

forthemiddle

(1,379 posts)
43. So a Dem President would nominate a moderate Republican?
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:46 PM
Jul 2018

Especially when his party controlled the House, the Senate, and the White House?
Right....

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
46. Agree. It's better than screaming and stomping our feet, which is
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 04:19 PM
Jul 2018

the other option.

Don’t expect trump to do it or come up with a honestly great health plan (or even consider both), but he might hit his head and realize he could actually do something worthwhile.

 

EricJohnson

(90 posts)
48. While the advice is good, giving it to Trumper isn't wise. Trumper is a
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 04:41 PM
Jul 2018

sociopath and would probably nominate Garland if Schumer demanded he NOT.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
61. A sane president would do that?
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 08:35 PM
Jul 2018

I don't think so.

The Democratic voters absolutely hate Trump.

So Trump nominates a moderate Democratic judge to the SC? He said he could shoot someone at Times Square and not lose support. That may be true, but nominating a Democratic judge would lose him half his conservative support overnight. He'd have to be insane to do that.

So, maybe it was worth asking.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
66. Yep - and he would be criticized as "meek" or "ineffectual" for not putting it forth
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 10:34 AM
Jul 2018

likely by many here on DU who are mocking him for doing this.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
87. Guessing more useful as Rorhsach-type clues than otherwise.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 03:18 PM
Jul 2018

Of course, it's always possible a couple are hostile agents, paid or unpaid.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
13. A trade to call off the dogs on the Russia investigation?
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 01:29 PM
Jul 2018

I am not saying to do it, but it could be crafted like the South African Reconciliation process. Past sins are forgiven, and we move forward with competing parties that aren't at each others throats?

I would have approached McConnell first about it, and someone "Justice" would have to be worked out.

If such a thing was to happen, then everybody clutch their rosary beads and pray for Ginsberg's health.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
21. Interesting, but if there is one thing we know about the Trumpster,
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 02:21 PM
Jul 2018

no deal is ever honored. He will break any deal, any time, for any or no reason.
So, let's make a deal, then we get to break it later!

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
68. That was my first thought
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 11:10 AM
Jul 2018

The South African reconciliation process isn't going too well right now. Neither would any deal made with Trump.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
14. That would be a healing gesture
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 01:33 PM
Jul 2018

and unfortunately it would help Trump consolidate power

Of course it won't happen

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
15. Attempting to negotiate like NY acquaintances or pals. How's that working for us?
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 01:53 PM
Jul 2018

We need someone who will be more adversarial. You can't negotiate with hostage takers. Those children in cages, those babies are hostages.

We need to adopt insurgent tactics and Chuck is not the person who can lead our brigade.

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
16. Why are people upset about this?
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 01:59 PM
Jul 2018

Of course Trump isn’t going to do it, but it is what he *should* do. What’s the harm of reminding people that Garland’s seat was stolen?

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
36. It doesn't hurt to ask for what we want
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:18 PM
Jul 2018

Trump has done impulsive things before and ignored his own advisers.

Some people like to be upset, it's a choice.

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
90. Because there are some here for whom Chuck Schumer can do nothing right.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 09:04 PM
Jul 2018

But, I'm not one of them. I'm with you. I doubt he's expecting Spanky to even consider his request. It was just a way of reminding people about McConnell's bullshit. Although, I do think there was a "Hail Mary" aspect to it, considering how petty and vindictive Trump is. If Trump decides on a whim to screw over McConnell anyone else involved, what better way to do it than to stray from that list he was handed?

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
19. Good idea. It shows once again that the Dems are reasonable and Trump is not.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 02:20 PM
Jul 2018

And it reminds the public that Garland SHOULD be on the Supreme Court.

andym

(5,443 posts)
29. I hope Schumer used a Russian accent
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 02:51 PM
Jul 2018

and tried to pretend to be Putin, so that Trump might actually listen to him.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
32. By doing this, Schumer made certain his t's are crossed and his i's dotted...
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:01 PM
Jul 2018

...for the upcoming confirmation hearings.



I gave the bullies (real bullies-- not the other students who simply mocked the bullies that we're told "makes us look bad&quot in middle school the same chance to back off. It cleaned my hands.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
42. I hope nobody here actually believes Schumer thought Trump would do it.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 03:36 PM
Jul 2018

This wasn't meant to seriously ask Trump to nominate Merrick Garland. It was a political move to remind the public, again, that the seat was stolen by the Republicans.

Rhiannon12866

(205,202 posts)
49. Of course that's the only thing that makes sense
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 05:16 PM
Jul 2018

Which means that's the last thing that Trump would ever do!

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
50. It's worth a shot, but Trump's ego is simply too massive to ever let a sane thought penetrate
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 05:51 PM
Jul 2018

If Obama said he eats at McDonalds 3 meals a day, Trump would become a vegan simply out of spite.

There's no way he could ever nominate someone that Obama thought was a good person.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
72. If I Were Schumer
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 11:59 AM
Jul 2018

I'd take a shot by highlighting the fact that Obama could not get this good and honorable American who has been tough on crime considered, let alone seated. Opportunity for Trump to one up Obama.

Turbineguy

(37,319 posts)
52. He did something.
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 06:13 PM
Jul 2018

At least he can say, "I told you so!"

I used to world for a company that would not buy spare parts. The temptation was not to order spares, since they would not send them anyway. The fact is that even when you know it's hopeless, you have to do the right thing.

still_one

(92,136 posts)
55. Gee, I guess he should have done the same strategy that some self-identifed progressives did in 2016
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 07:10 PM
Jul 2018

by refusing to vote for the Democratic nominee. They sure made their point, and they were tough too, not only were they happy to do it at the time, but they expressed absolutely NO REGRET and were proud they did it a year and a half later

So people are using THIS as an excuse to bash Schumer. WTF

There is an election coming up in November, and some are getting bent out of shape over THIS.

Let's just see if we can f**k things up in November, because it sure seems their are some elements who want to do everything in their power to bring divisiveness with ever nuance or utterance a Democratic Congress person makes if it rubs them the wrong.

Jon Stewart said it perfectly, the Democratic party is a circular firing squad.

This is the most important issue to get pissed off about?

This is f**king insane.

We lost TWO SUPREME COURT APPOINTMENTS with the help some people who identified themselves as liberal, because they refused to vote for the DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE, by either voting third party or NOT VOTING.


Every Senator running for Senate in those critical swing states lost to the ESTABLISHMENT, INCUMBENT, republican.


Let's see what happens in November if we keep this crap up. We are doing the right wing's job for them.


f**k it






Shrek

(3,977 posts)
58. Even if he did it the Senate would just refuse to consent
Thu Jul 5, 2018, 07:42 PM
Jul 2018

And then claim that their previous tactics are vindicated because it's all about the nominee and it doesn't matter who the president is.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
65. Of course if he didn't ask directly or demand it, he'd be skewered by those here who
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 10:33 AM
Jul 2018

are mocking him now....

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
74. Smart move. At one time the GOP said he was acceptable, & he IS a sober type, not an ideologue...
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 01:37 PM
Jul 2018

Chance if you don't try: zero.
This way Schumer gets to troll Trump and the GOP both.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
77. Reaching across the aisle
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 01:46 PM
Jul 2018

are you Senator Schumer?

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jgmiller

(391 posts)
79. We never learn
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 01:49 PM
Jul 2018

I suggested something similar the other day except once again if this is true Schumer didn't learn from the school of Trump. Talking to him privately and suggesting things does nothing, this guy attacks in public.

Schumer should have put out a tweet as soon as Kennedy announced his retirement stating that if Trump nominated Garland and he was approved the dems would vote for his stupid border wall. Put Trump and Mitch in a bad place, use their own words against them. Odds are Trump would never do it but the worst that would happen would be that next year when the dems take back the house we defund the idiocy. We need to fight this guy on his own turf, I'm not saying being crazy and obnoxious like him but fight like him.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
82. Well, Schumer talked to him and then leaked it to the press,
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 02:28 PM
Jul 2018

so I'm sure it made it's way to twitter somehow, if that's important to you.

And we don't know if Schumer offered anything in return or not (but I doubt he did). The School of Trump would teach that trying to make a deal with the idiot is just an invitation to be insulted and abused, and useless in the end anyway.

I don't know if Schumer has some trick up his sleeve as far as delaying this vote or not, but I guess we'll see.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
80. This could be a photo of Schumer asking Trump to nominate a moderate ...
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 01:50 PM
Jul 2018

No, wait, that's not Schumer, but the outcome will be just as productive ...

Red Mountain

(1,731 posts)
91. He's just messing with him
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 09:36 PM
Jul 2018

Maybe he's so far gone he'd consider it......but I doubt Chuck is counting on that.

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
92. PLEASE! Chuck was trying to save Roe v. Wade, among other vital causes we Dems care about
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 08:04 AM
Jul 2018

deeply. Stop and think before you criticize.

Smh...

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