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riversedge

(70,093 posts)
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 11:28 PM Jul 2018

Trump has said 1,340,330 words as president. They're getting more dishonest, a Star study shows

Source: The Star


By Daniel Dale Washington Bureau Chief
Sat., July 14, 2018

WASHINGTON—U.S. President Donald Trump’s words are getting more dishonest over time, the Star has found in the first detailed statistical analysis of his inaccurate statements in office.

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Trump’s dishonesty has been a central story of his presidency, a daily problem that has confounded members of Congress and foreign leaders, confused policy debates and made it difficult for many members of the American public to trust the commander-in-chief.

We’ve tried to quantify the issue. Since Trump’s inauguration speech on Jan. 20, 2017, we’ve fact-checked every word Trump has spoken or tweeted since his inauguration speech on Jan. 20, 2017. Up until July 1, 2018, the end date for the analysis, we had counted 1,929 false claims.

Readers wanted more than just this raw number. They asked us, for example, to explain why the number of false claims per week has increased since early 2017. The key question: is Trump just talking more, or are his words denser with dishonesty than they used to be?

Thanks to never-before-released data, we can now offer an answer: it’s a bit of both, but there’s no doubt he’s getting worse per word spoken.
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Read more: https://www.thestar.com/news/world/analysis/2018/07/14/trump-has-said-1340330-words-as-president-theyre-getting-more-dishonest-a-star-study-shows.html



As I understand this---the more he talks, the more he lies.








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U.S. President Donald Trump responds to a reporter in Buckinghamshire, England on Friday. A new Star study provides the most comprehensive picture yet available of what historians say is the president’s unprecedented serial lying. (Pablo Martinez Monsivais / AP)

Our conclusions:





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Trump has said 1,340,330 words as president. They're getting more dishonest, a Star study shows (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2018 OP
His hair looks what i believe is called a standing lenticular cloud. pangaia Jul 2018 #1
Wow. Snackshack Jul 2018 #2
"Look at all those lies!" sandensea Jul 2018 #3
More than his inauguration crowd size. lol SummerSnow Jul 2018 #4
Look at the graph. BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #5
He's getting a bit more desperate. At least 7 heavy events hit during the past two weeks. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #6
Things are going to be getting pretty scary very soon at BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #7
My fear ChazInAz Jul 2018 #8
But he only uses the "best words," right? Beartracks Jul 2018 #9
"Trump's dishonesty has been a central story of his presidency" Beartracks Jul 2018 #10
It's called grooming. U start with mild abuse. When that is accepted, u ramp it up a bit at a time. Midnight Writer Jul 2018 #11
Dirty Donny's deceit comes from his republican "values" Achilleaze Jul 2018 #12
True. The Trump phenomenon is a Republican phenomenon. n/t Beartracks Jul 2018 #13
He said that Obama was the founder of ISIS and that was in 2016 oberliner Jul 2018 #14
It's not the words that are dishonest. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2018 #15

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
2. Wow.
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 11:47 PM
Jul 2018

My heart goes out to the people who had to sit and listen to what had to be hours and hours of trump speaking. I could not have done that. I would rather be locked in a phone booth with a rabid Raccoon. I can’t even stand to hear the sound bites of him re-played on All In with Chris Hayes / TRMS / The Last Word Lawrence O’Donnell.

BigmanPigman

(51,569 posts)
5. Look at the graph.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:40 AM
Jul 2018

Some one wrote earlier that March 12th was an exceptionally slow "lie" day for some reason (maybe under medication). But look at the last two bars on the graph...this is pretty telling. I wondered what happened on July 1st (he does so much "crazy shit" in such a short time I lose track). It turns out that on that date he was golfing in NJ ...

"President Donald Trump and First Lady Melania Trump are spending the weekend at their home on Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey. While there are no public events scheduled, Trump said Friday that he is using the weekend to interview Supreme Court Justice candidates to replace the retiring Anthony Kennedy. The president expects to announce his choice on July 9."
https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2018/06/president-donald-trumps-schedule-for-sunday-july-1-2018/
I guess he had to lie more than usual since Kennedy and he planned his retirement and replacement already behind closed doors. Kennedy needs to be investigated for this, especially if his son is involved with tRump $$$ and Deutche Bank.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,966 posts)
6. He's getting a bit more desperate. At least 7 heavy events hit during the past two weeks.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:47 AM
Jul 2018

In addition to all the "work" he had to do on the SCotUS (though some suggest that Kavanaugh was picked long ago and was part of the Justice Kennedy deal).

1) Trump got wind of and was later informed that the 12 indictments of Russians was coming.

2) Cohen signaled he is going to flip.

3) Manafort got slapped down.

4) About a million Cohen documents got cleared for Mueller to examine.

5) Six Front Trade War hit Round 2.

6) North Korean fiasco crumbled.

7) Trump Child Abductions were exposed and got very intense.

BigmanPigman

(51,569 posts)
7. Things are going to be getting pretty scary very soon at
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:51 AM
Jul 2018

this rate! I think curling up in the fetal position under a blanket for the next 30 or so years seems like a good idea right about now. I want my mommy.

Beartracks

(12,801 posts)
10. "Trump's dishonesty has been a central story of his presidency"
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:22 AM
Jul 2018

Stop calling them false claims when they're just lies and bullshit.

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Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
12. Dirty Donny's deceit comes from his republican "values"
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 08:05 AM
Jul 2018

I mean, republicans knowingly put a lying five-time draft-dodger in charge of America's Armed Forces. That shows you precisely what republican "values" a really all about.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
14. He said that Obama was the founder of ISIS and that was in 2016
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 11:12 PM
Jul 2018

Also when asked about it, he said yes he meant it literally.

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