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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 10:14 AM Jul 2018

More than half of Trump voters worry MS-13 will target their family

Source: Axios


Stef W. Kight 5 mins ago

A majority of Trump voters said that they were at least somewhat worried about MS-13 targeting them or their families and 85% believe that the violent gang is a serious threat to the United States, according to a new HuffPost/YouGov survey.

Why it matters: Trump has repeatedly used the gang to validate his administration's "zero-tolerance" policy at the southern border and the need for a wall. While the gang's actions are indeed vicious, its members prey almost exclusively on immigrant communities in small, specific areas of the U.S.

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Read more: https://www.axios.com/trump-voters-ms-13-fears-targeting-families-poll-d08a8ba8-823e-4158-8e24-fa2b7cbc9616.html

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More than half of Trump voters worry MS-13 will target their family (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2018 OP
Deplorables are very stupid people which is why they vote for trump Gothmog Jul 2018 #1
Lonesome Rhodes rtracey Jul 2018 #19
Yikes. That is scarier than MS-13 Freethinker65 Jul 2018 #2
Yep. Scurrilous Jul 2018 #10
Indeed. The massive propaganda of fear, division and discord sown by Fox and RW fake news Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #15
Deplorables will believe most everything their DEAR LEADER says..... ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2018 #3
And the downside for the U.S. would be what? liberalgunwilltravel Jul 2018 #4
They're more likely to be targeted by members of their own family, not MS-13. n/t OnlinePoker Jul 2018 #5
Actually, they are more likely to die in "hold my beer & watch this" incidents. FSogol Jul 2018 #7
Like the fear of foreign terrorists- relogic Jul 2018 #6
Must be those people on the "higher ends of intelligence" Trump was talking about. LMAO Solly Mack Jul 2018 #8
Because the White House puts out crap like this and Fox News spreads this propaganda Botany Jul 2018 #9
I guess they were born that way? FakeNoose Jul 2018 #11
Perfect! Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2018 #31
That's Because DownriverDem Jul 2018 #12
Poor little scared snowflakes. haele Jul 2018 #13
Heh. How many of them even heard of MS-13 before he ran for office? Flaleftist Jul 2018 #14
Zero, Zip, Nada, None, Zilch, Nil, Naught, Nix, Nought, Nihil. SamKnause Jul 2018 #16
+1 appalachiablue Jul 2018 #28
I live from what used to be blocks away from MS13 turf DBoon Jul 2018 #17
100% of sane people maxrandb Jul 2018 #18
How many Trump voters actually know what MS-13 is and has done? Saguaro Jul 2018 #20
The stupid Politicub Jul 2018 #21
morans.... dhill926 Jul 2018 #22
Just an excuse for them to hate on brown people Docreed2003 Jul 2018 #23
Man, how much kool aid can somebody drink? sinkingfeeling Jul 2018 #24
You're never going to enlighten the core group of tRumpies Bayard Jul 2018 #25
MS 13 is in rural America now? muntrv Jul 2018 #26
Boogeymen are the tool of every totalitarian dictator nt HopeAgain Jul 2018 #27
snowflakes LiberalLovinLug Jul 2018 #29
Duct tape and plastic sheeting sales skyrocketed afte 9/11. displacedtexan Jul 2018 #30
Scaring idiots sells guns. n/t moondust Jul 2018 #32
 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
19. Lonesome Rhodes
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:38 AM
Jul 2018

"This whole country's just like my flock of sheep!"


"Rednecks, crackers, hillbillies, hausfraus, shut-ins, pea-pickers - everybody that's got to jump when somebody else blows the whistle. They don't know it yet, but they're all gonna be 'Fighters for Fuller'. They're mine!"

"I'm not just an entertainer. I'm an influence, a wielder of opinion, a force... a force!"

"Those morons out there? Shucks, I could take chicken fertilizer and sell it to them as caviar. I could make them eat dog food and think it was steak. Sure, I got 'em like this... You know what the public's like? A cage of Guinea Pigs. Good Night you stupid idiots. Good Night, you miserable slobs. They're a lot of trained seals. I toss them a dead fish and they'll flap their flippers."

from A Face in the Crowd.....

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
15. Indeed. The massive propaganda of fear, division and discord sown by Fox and RW fake news
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:05 AM
Jul 2018

has worked it's evil magic...the Base has been so totally corrupted the politicians cater to them...the real enemies of the state are the hordes of Fox zombies.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,715 posts)
3. Deplorables will believe most everything their DEAR LEADER says.....
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 10:17 AM
Jul 2018


Because they are so poorly educated, they are so easy to control.

But that is changing, thank God. Slowly but surely.

FSogol

(45,437 posts)
7. Actually, they are more likely to die in "hold my beer & watch this" incidents.
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 10:24 AM
Jul 2018


These are shitheads who are going to freak out when they see some Latino teenager in the park.

relogic

(155 posts)
6. Like the fear of foreign terrorists-
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 10:21 AM
Jul 2018

there’s one lurking behind every steeple and mall. The tried and true fear of the other works with these imbeciles every time.

Without irrational, pathological fear what could the political and religious right depend upon?

Botany

(70,442 posts)
9. Because the White House puts out crap like this and Fox News spreads this propaganda
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 10:30 AM
Jul 2018
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/protecting-american-communities-violence-ms-13/

Protecting American Communities from the Violence of MS-13

Issued on: February 6, 2018

haele

(12,635 posts)
13. Poor little scared snowflakes.
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 10:36 AM
Jul 2018

MS-13, like other gang members, stay in their own neighborhoods, prey on newcomers and immigrants who lack "protection" by familiarity with that neighborhood and target associates of other gang members that live there. They don't go to the 'burbs or out in the county seats and break into the modest ranch homes and McMansions there. And gangs like that certainly aren't organized enough to do much more than war with each other. Unlike white collar Mobs, who run corporations that snap up masses of affordable housing and build luxury developments on them, establish storefront cult churches to suck money off rubes afraid of the hereafter and punish those who don't want to pay to belong to the cult, run predatory money lending operations - or buy elections as GOP "representatives" and remove the social and economic safeguards for the society at large.

I've lived in diverse, "gang-infested" and immigrant neighborhoods - and still prefer to do so. The only times I've ever been a victim of crime was when I was living in "safe, middle class" white neighborhoods. Their bratty teenage or grown slacker children, and the equally slacker "friends" of those children committed more crime and caused more local mayhem than any gang-bangers I've ever been associated with.
Every time I've been robbed, burgled, or my property vandalized, it was by a "troubled" young white man from a "good family" living in the neighborhood. And I've heard random gunfire in pretty near every neighborhood I've ever lived in since I can remember - from about the 1980's on.

Statistically, you are more in danger from a person you know or living in your neighborhood than you are from strangers or organized criminals - unless, of course, you regularly associate with organized criminals or seek out strangers for the thrill.

Haele

SamKnause

(13,087 posts)
16. Zero, Zip, Nada, None, Zilch, Nil, Naught, Nix, Nought, Nihil.
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:17 AM
Jul 2018

They are instructed by Trump and Fox what to fear.

DBoon

(22,338 posts)
17. I live from what used to be blocks away from MS13 turf
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:25 AM
Jul 2018

Last edited Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:59 AM - Edit history (1)

My block would sometimes (not often) get tagged by them. LAPD maps put their turf maybe a half mile from here

Rampant gentrification seems to have put an end to this

I am more terrorized of Trump voters who support Putin's Russia than I ever was of MS13

 

Saguaro

(79 posts)
20. How many Trump voters actually know what MS-13 is and has done?
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:45 AM
Jul 2018

Aside from being "a gang" and "Mexican"? But I guess they really don't want to know much more than that.

Bayard

(22,004 posts)
25. You're never going to enlighten the core group of tRumpies
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 01:13 PM
Jul 2018

But maybe people in the middle would listen to some facts as talking points for the Dem's in the fall. Like the discussion we've been having here, and how the numbers of illegal immigrants have been steadily dropping in recent years.

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