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Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 01:34 PM Jul 2018

Black Home Depot Employee Fired Because He Retorted to a Customer's Racist Rant

Source: The Root

Breanna Edwards
Today 12:24pm



Maurice Rucker
Screenshot: WNYT

This is America...where, if you are an employee at Home Depot, you’re apparently expected to take repeated verbal abuse from a customer without verbally responding, however calmly, yourself.

Maurice Rucker, 60, lost his job at an Albany, N.Y., Home Depot after he said he was subjected to racist verbal abuse, which he said was unlike anything he’s ever experienced. The fall out has left him shocked, WNYT reports.

Rucker said the incident all started last Thursday when a customer approached checkout with an unleashed dog.

“I said to him, ‘Sir, when you have your dog in here we prefer that you keep it on a leash.’” He turned around and said, ‘Fuck you. You’re an asshole you’re a piece of shit,’” Rucker recalled.


Read more: https://www.theroot.com/black-home-depot-employee-fired-because-he-retorted-to-1827749553

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Black Home Depot Employee Fired Because He Retorted to a Customer's Racist Rant (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jul 2018 OP
Home Depot just got themselves a lawsuit for unlawful termination. still_one Jul 2018 #1
K&R for visibility. lunamagica Jul 2018 #5
I am not surprised, read about the Home Depot founders Perseus Jul 2018 #30
I was just going to say that ailsagirl Jul 2018 #44
In New York, most employees are considered "at-will." Mosby Jul 2018 #48
That does not mean he doesn't't have a case. Age discrimination, race discrimination, etc still_one Jul 2018 #50
He's not going to find a lawyer to do the case on contingency. Mosby Jul 2018 #52
I am not going to debate this because I don't know the facts, but groups like the ACLU, NAACP, etc still_one Jul 2018 #53
A customer comes in, and alledgedly hurls racial slurs at an African American employee, and then still_one Jul 2018 #54
He's getting his job back Mosby Jul 2018 #60
That's because we heard about it... louis c Jul 2018 #78
And you wonder why workers need unions? louis c Jul 2018 #2
This. CrispyQ Jul 2018 #15
Yep. n/t demmiblue Jul 2018 #18
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!! bluestarone Jul 2018 #23
That would have been great seeing that HD SHUT down and workers protesting.... Bengus81 Jul 2018 #62
yet another reason (#1,256, I believe) to NEVER even step into HL. niyad Jul 2018 #3
Same here. sandensea Jul 2018 #7
They should be fined $100 million for every day they don't reinstate Rucker. sandensea Jul 2018 #4
Geez what a damned a'hole. I'm pleased when Lowes & HD allow me to bring my LEASHED dog in hlthe2b Jul 2018 #6
I LOVE dogs but I hate them in stores where they shouldn't be... sdfernando Jul 2018 #27
The stores out here are not crowded during the hours they allow dogs, but they must be well trained hlthe2b Jul 2018 #29
I have Mosby Jul 2018 #55
I've never seen Target allow dogs because they sell food, at least along the front Range-CO hlthe2b Jul 2018 #56
I live in Phoenix AZ Mosby Jul 2018 #57
Dogs are only allowed on the patios at Starbucks in Denver (and all of CO, afaik)... hlthe2b Jul 2018 #58
I love dogs too and one of the reasons I LOVE Paris ChiTownDenny Jul 2018 #31
and a not so well behaved dog ruins it for everyone in attendance. sdfernando Jul 2018 #32
Speaks more to the irresponsibility of many Americans. I too have seen dogs throughout Europe hlthe2b Jul 2018 #33
I cannot argue with that. They don't call us sdfernando Jul 2018 #35
Agreed. This is common throughout Europe Scalded Nun Jul 2018 #46
Trump has really unleashed the ugly underbelly of Republicans RussBLib Jul 2018 #8
Trump had nothing to do with it. Sherman A1 Jul 2018 #36
You don't seriously believe that, do you? They feel entitled to spew their hate catbyte Jul 2018 #41
Yes, I most certainly do believe that. Sherman A1 Jul 2018 #43
Yes!! Jake Stern Jul 2018 #76
Those of us who work or worked Retail have a Sherman A1 Jul 2018 #77
Paging Mr. Avenatti. Paging Mr. Avenatti. CanonRay Jul 2018 #9
How many Home Depot Workers know of this Policy. Wellstone ruled Jul 2018 #10
HD is a low-class employer Mopar151 Jul 2018 #74
Must be the new norm. Wellstone ruled Jul 2018 #75
K & R This injustice must be stopped.. appalachiablue Jul 2018 #11
I agree. saidsimplesimon Jul 2018 #13
That & anything else calling attention to racist, anti labor actions. appalachiablue Jul 2018 #16
Resist saidsimplesimon Jul 2018 #21
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Jul 2018 #12
Glad I saw this, I'm now going to Lowes. Historic NY Jul 2018 #14
There are more choices than the McDonald's and Burger King of homecare stores. Any independent NBachers Jul 2018 #28
I support my local Home Depot DeminPennswoods Jul 2018 #63
Betcha the asshole can be identified from the surveillance tape dalton99a Jul 2018 #17
Local hardware stores are better for your neighborhood, anyway ArizonaLib Jul 2018 #19
That customer should've been kicked to the curb True_Blue Jul 2018 #20
Home Depot elmac Jul 2018 #22
The biggest part of Home Depot's problem is that they didn't ask HIS side of the story. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #24
Having worked in retail, you cannot argue with customers DeminPennswoods Jul 2018 #25
Precisely Sherman A1 Jul 2018 #38
One customer DeminPennswoods Jul 2018 #59
Any of us who worked Retail have a book full Sherman A1 Jul 2018 #67
Oh god RhodeIslandOne Jul 2018 #71
Having worked in Foodservice as a Manager all over the US stevil Jul 2018 #68
Ah yes, another check in the "your job or your dignity" column. LanternWaste Jul 2018 #80
Home Despot The River Jul 2018 #26
Go Fund Me for Mr. Rucker csziggy Jul 2018 #34
Granted he made a mistake and should have called a manager and reported it cstanleytech Jul 2018 #37
Exactly. Mosby Jul 2018 #49
I stopped shopping there the second time they let my credit card number get stolen pecosbob Jul 2018 #39
I won't set foot in a Home Depot. Big GOP supporter from way back. catbyte Jul 2018 #40
Believe or not, there was a well respected DUer who claimed GusBob Jul 2018 #42
I'm sorry, but the word "retort" in the subject got me thinking of this: VWolf Jul 2018 #45
I know this will be unpopular Maggiemayhem Jul 2018 #47
It's getting out of control imo Mosby Jul 2018 #51
HD is giving him his job back Mosby Jul 2018 #61
Hell the cashier was doing him a FAVOR and got the Trump treatment....... Bengus81 Jul 2018 #64
GREAT NOW bluestarone Jul 2018 #65
The employee got his job back Gothmog Jul 2018 #66
Good dalton99a Jul 2018 #72
Call a manager? DiverDave Jul 2018 #69
Yes, that was the best and appropriate response DeminPennswoods Jul 2018 #70
So, anything for profit? DiverDave Jul 2018 #81
He may have his job back but he'll have a target on him dreamland Jul 2018 #73
Black man fired by Home Depot for reacting to "racist" customer won't accept his job back. Gothmog Jul 2018 #79

Mosby

(16,260 posts)
52. He's not going to find a lawyer to do the case on contingency.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 05:28 PM
Jul 2018

So unless he has a 10-20k to drop on some lawyer he's out of luck.

Eta I think HD could have just given him a verbal warning and hope they take a lot of crap for this termination.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
53. I am not going to debate this because I don't know the facts, but groups like the ACLU, NAACP, etc
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 05:47 PM
Jul 2018

have been known to take up discrimination lawsuits

still_one

(92,061 posts)
54. A customer comes in, and alledgedly hurls racial slurs at an African American employee, and then
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 06:14 PM
Jul 2018

the employer fires the African American employee. it doesn't matter if it is an "at-will" state, discrimination is illegal, and because of the timing of the firing verses the racial slurs against him, I suspect Home Depot will settle before it goes too much further.

I can also see the ACLU, NAACP, and taking this up pro bono.


It is also bad press for Home Depot, I don't care if the ex-CEO is a right wing asshole, I don't think they want this kind of publicity



 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
78. That's because we heard about it...
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 12:08 PM
Jul 2018

...Only a union would have saved his job if this incident remained out of the public eye.

Bengus81

(6,928 posts)
62. That would have been great seeing that HD SHUT down and workers protesting....
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:13 PM
Jul 2018

What could HD do about it? Not a damn thing............

niyad

(113,074 posts)
3. yet another reason (#1,256, I believe) to NEVER even step into HL.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 01:39 PM
Jul 2018

(I will never forgive them for the death of a friend)

sandensea

(21,604 posts)
7. Same here.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 01:41 PM
Jul 2018

I haven't since 2003.

I bought $2,000 worth of tools and 2-by-4s for a small backyard project - and ended up returning $1,150 of it, such was the shoddiness.

sandensea

(21,604 posts)
4. They should be fined $100 million for every day they don't reinstate Rucker.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 01:40 PM
Jul 2018

Of course, good luck getting any of these Rethug judges to agree to it.

They fired him at 60 - knowing what that means in today'a America.

hlthe2b

(102,132 posts)
6. Geez what a damned a'hole. I'm pleased when Lowes & HD allow me to bring my LEASHED dog in
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 01:40 PM
Jul 2018

but would NEVER even imagine bringing an UNLEASHED dog in.... and then to launch a RACIST tirade?

I do hope the employee sues.

sdfernando

(4,925 posts)
27. I LOVE dogs but I hate them in stores where they shouldn't be...
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 02:36 PM
Jul 2018

like grocery stores (unless it is an assist dog) or home depot. Once I was in a HD and a lady had a leashed dog....dog took a crap in the middle of the isle...she just walked away with the dog and left it there for someone else to clean up or step in. Whats the big deal with leaving you pet at home when you go shopping?

hlthe2b

(102,132 posts)
29. The stores out here are not crowded during the hours they allow dogs, but they must be well trained
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 02:38 PM
Jul 2018

I've NEVER seen a dog even lunge on the leash much less take a "dump".

I guess owners are more responsible where I live.

I don't think dogs should be allowed in many stores, but these warehouses allow for good places to complete training (not only for assist dogs, but those that must be well behaved in all kinds of public settings).

Mosby

(16,260 posts)
55. I have
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 06:31 PM
Jul 2018

But I work at target right now.

There is a little terrier who takes a dump at the self checkout, pretty much every time the owner is in the store.

We have to clean it up, the mgmt and AP doesnt give a shit (no pun intended.)

I think the little guy gets stressed out from all the people and commotion.



hlthe2b

(102,132 posts)
56. I've never seen Target allow dogs because they sell food, at least along the front Range-CO
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 06:33 PM
Jul 2018

I didn't know you lived in Colorado, too...

Mosby

(16,260 posts)
57. I live in Phoenix AZ
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 06:40 PM
Jul 2018

All the large retail stores here allow animals in, regardless whether they sell groceries. People put them in carts some of the time, sometimes with their carriers.

They also allow people to eat and drink while they shop, which is also a health dept violation for a store that sells fresh food.

Do you ever go to starbucks? There are dogs in there all the time.

 

ChiTownDenny

(747 posts)
31. I love dogs too and one of the reasons I LOVE Paris
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 02:45 PM
Jul 2018

is that you can bring your dog anywhere, including into restaurants. A well-behaved dog, like a well-behaved child is a pleasure to witness.

sdfernando

(4,925 posts)
32. and a not so well behaved dog ruins it for everyone in attendance.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 02:51 PM
Jul 2018

..and can create liability for the dog owner and the restaurant/store.

hlthe2b

(102,132 posts)
33. Speaks more to the irresponsibility of many Americans. I too have seen dogs throughout Europe
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 02:55 PM
Jul 2018

so well behaved it shocks tourists to see and you DO see them everywhere. If the people you experience have no regard for their dog's "manners", I hate to think how their kids behave.

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
46. Agreed. This is common throughout Europe
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 04:27 PM
Jul 2018

Of course the owner assumes the personal responsibility for the behavior training of the animal. The owner also assumes personal responsibility for the actual behavior in stores, restaurants, etc. Those personal responsibilities are willingly accepted.

Personal responsibility...a concept foreign to most Americans.

RussBLib

(9,003 posts)
8. Trump has really unleashed the ugly underbelly of Republicans
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 01:42 PM
Jul 2018

they feel emboldened to express their racism openly

yea, Trump!

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
36. Trump had nothing to do with it.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 03:14 PM
Jul 2018

Retail employees have been looked down upon, abused and disrespected by both employer and customers for decades. This is hardly anything new.

catbyte

(34,337 posts)
41. You don't seriously believe that, do you? They feel entitled to spew their hate
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 03:43 PM
Jul 2018

wherever they please, whenever they please, and at whomever they please. This time it just so happened to be an employee at Home Depot. I'll bet the asshole who did it would've felt just as free to have let loose on someone in the parking lot who got in his way. It's a cancer. Sure employees have been and continue to be abused by employers and customers alike--I worked in retail--but there's a racial component to it that has reared it's ugly head since 2016 that can't be ignored.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
43. Yes, I most certainly do believe that.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 03:59 PM
Jul 2018

worked Retail for over 4 decades and was the subject of numerous customer tirades through the years. I called it "the kick the dog syndrome". People were angry about something else in their life or generally pissed off at the world so we took the brunt of their anger because "x" product was out of stock or 3 pennies higher than the competition because we could not talk back to them and they knew that.

I've seen both the general abuse of Retail Employees and that which was racially motivated as well and if you believe that this is somehow tied to The "Esteemed" Mr. Trump you are seriously misinformed.



Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
76. Yes!!
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 12:25 AM
Jul 2018

A quarter century veteran of retail here. Once had a manager tell me, point blank, "I'd rather fire you than lose a customer. I have a stack of applications on my desk and can have you replaced before you get home."

Another time a customer shoved me and when I got back up in his face I was written up. The excuse? "He's a regular who spends a lot of money here so you should be kissing his ass not yelling at him".

Don't get me started on the verbal and physical attacks that come during Christmas Rush.


Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
77. Those of us who work or worked Retail have a
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 06:01 AM
Jul 2018

Bucket full of stories. People have certainly gotten much more mean as the decades have passed but this didn’t just begin in 2016.

A to a fellow Retail Veteran!

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
10. How many Home Depot Workers know of this Policy.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 01:45 PM
Jul 2018

My bet is,maybe someone in HR,if one things these DIY Stores spend any time or money on these policies,your on the wrong planet. Ten Years,been in this fellows shoes on many occasions, doing the same job,and learned from Business Experience to walk away,and that was from interpersonal training from a previous Employer.

Worked for HD for a total of three weeks once,never seen or heard of this policy. Can your log on a Computer,yes,can you life fifty pounds,yes,can you answer a phone,yes,well here is your vest and you are a assigned to this Department and good luck. That is the Training in a nutshell.

Mopar151

(9,975 posts)
74. HD is a low-class employer
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 10:50 PM
Jul 2018

Store thermostats are controlled from Atlanta. Bad supervisors encouraged, those who work with the customers treated like topsoil in Lawn & Garden.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
75. Must be the new norm.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 11:55 PM
Jul 2018

Spent three days in their employ,two plus days to many. Again,that was fifteen years ago. Did do tens years at their Competition which is a minor step up.

NBachers

(17,081 posts)
28. There are more choices than the McDonald's and Burger King of homecare stores. Any independent
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 02:38 PM
Jul 2018

hardware stores in your area? Or have they all been driven out of business by Home Depot and Lowe's?

Full disclosure: I work at an independent hardware store / lumber yard that goes back to post- World War II.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
63. I support my local Home Depot
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:14 PM
Jul 2018

because they give back to the community and especially the part of the community that's not nearly as well off as the part where the store is located.

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
19. Local hardware stores are better for your neighborhood, anyway
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 01:56 PM
Jul 2018

We call it Homophobic Depot. It's long been near the top of our Do Not Go To list along with Walmart, Hobby Lobby, Chickfilet, Cracker Barrel, and the list goes on.

True_Blue

(3,063 posts)
20. That customer should've been kicked to the curb
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 01:57 PM
Jul 2018

And banned for life. I definitely won't be shopping there anymore. I can get what I need from Ace or Lowes.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
24. The biggest part of Home Depot's problem is that they didn't ask HIS side of the story.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 02:22 PM
Jul 2018

But in the end, he didn't follow protocol. I can understand what happened here, and can't say I wouldn't have done the same thing. But the reason they are supposed to call management for an irate customer is to diffuse a situation. This crazy customer could've pulled out a gun & started shooting, since it's obvious he got super mad over nothing.

But I would think they would have given him a warning, given his length of time working there.

It's a shame Home Depot didn't stand behind its employee more...just giving him a warning, and LISTENING to the employee's version!

The owner of HD - wasn't he the one who ranted publicly something inappropriate or racist or Trumpian or something? I think I recall that because I considered boycotting HD.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
25. Having worked in retail, you cannot argue with customers
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 02:24 PM
Jul 2018

regardless of what they say to you. But it sounds like after this employee told the customer dogs/pets had to be leashed and got an earful back, he should have summoned his dept head or store mgr and let him or her deal with the customer.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
38. Precisely
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 03:17 PM
Jul 2018

I have been the subject of customer tirades and the only thing you can do is call the manager on duty. Hopefully they will eject the customer, but you never correct or talk back to one.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
59. One customer
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:09 PM
Jul 2018

harrangued me that the bookstore (in a big conservative area) where I was working had too many "liberal" books. I explained the store only cared about sales and carried books and/or authors that were good sellers. That didn't stop him, though. He went on to tell me that he was a shareholder in the bookstore company. I tried to kind of ignore him and carry on with my job arranging book shelves, but he just would not let up. Finally, I politely suggested since he was a shareholder in the company, the best place for him to address his concerns was at the company's annual shareholder meeting. Fortunately I was able to disengage after that.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
67. Any of us who worked Retail have a book full
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:49 PM
Jul 2018

Of stories to share. Some funny and others less so. I worked grocery for 43 years and remember that Sunday after 3pm the mood shifted as folks realized their weekend was ending. Often they were just nasty. Monday nights were equally as they had just experienced their Monday. On a Sunday night I recall being called everything that was racially and anotimically impossible by one lady because I would sell her liquor. After 45 minutes of berating me she could only come up with “you’re a Norwegian”. The police arrived and took her away.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
71. Oh god
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 08:57 PM
Jul 2018

I used to get this asshole once every so many months when I worked at Waldenbooks in the early 2000's. They look at bookstores with disdain in general and only show up to purchase the latest bullshit screed from Coulter or Hannity. They accuse you of hiding right-wing books. They are repugnant and I imagine they are only worse now and probably ask why their aren't more pictures in the books they buy.

stevil

(1,537 posts)
68. Having worked in Foodservice as a Manager all over the US
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 08:13 PM
Jul 2018

The customer (small c) is not always right, but they are always a customer. But I never tolerated abuse of my team (staff). I always backed them up when the guests of my establishment unless I knew otherwise.. Not all Managers are like that. The "customer" won the battle but lost the war. The team member might have had the resources at that precise moment. I know how this goes..

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
80. Ah yes, another check in the "your job or your dignity" column.
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 04:01 PM
Jul 2018

It's a great excuse to use when we want to tell people not to make waves.

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
37. Granted he made a mistake and should have called a manager and reported it
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 03:14 PM
Jul 2018

but firing him was not called for rather he should have just gotten a verbal reminder to follow company protocol.

pecosbob

(7,533 posts)
39. I stopped shopping there the second time they let my credit card number get stolen
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 03:21 PM
Jul 2018

and it doesn't surprise me that the ownership are pieces of sh*t.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
42. Believe or not, there was a well respected DUer who claimed
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 03:48 PM
Jul 2018

Oh, he was well loved here, that Wee lil' Willy Pitty. He claimed, and as I worked in customer service for years, I will never ever forget his line

"if you wear the uniform, you have to take the abuse"

I am so glad that worthless used car salesman so called liberal is gone.

Christ people kissed his ass

Maggiemayhem

(807 posts)
47. I know this will be unpopular
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 04:44 PM
Jul 2018

But please leave your pets at home. I have been knocked down by a big dog, freaked out by an iguana and dodged shit from an escaped parrot. If you don’t have a service dog, you don’t to drag your animals out. Leave them home where they are safe.


Mosby

(16,260 posts)
51. It's getting out of control imo
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 05:26 PM
Jul 2018

The truth is that only service animals are allowed in stores, but now they let any animal in, I was in target yesterday and there was a large unfixed PB and a female being led around the store by their owners.

When something really bad happens it will change.

Bengus81

(6,928 posts)
64. Hell the cashier was doing him a FAVOR and got the Trump treatment.......
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:22 PM
Jul 2018

A manager or assistant manager could have seen the guy well before he checked out and told him he need to take the dog out to his car NOW,that's our leash laws.

So the black guy is just telling this guy to make sure you have a leash on the dog and he gets trash talked by this Trump loving POS. FUCK HIM and FUCK HD.

Oh sure the guy got his job back....once the SHIT hit the media fan.

DiverDave

(4,886 posts)
69. Call a manager?
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 08:13 PM
Jul 2018

Call a doctor. To remove my boot from his behind.
And, "don't talk back"?? Sorry, I wouldnt let anybody talk to me like that.
It emboldens the people that get away with this.
Then they do it again and again...

DiverDave

(4,886 posts)
81. So, anything for profit?
Sat Jul 28, 2018, 06:15 AM
Jul 2018

Nope. Just because you work in the service industry, it does not mean you must take abuse.
But, any manager would respond as you did.
Increased sales= higher bonus...
Who cares if some scumbag denigrates your minimum wage employee?

dreamland

(964 posts)
73. He may have his job back but he'll have a target on him
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 10:32 PM
Jul 2018

...by the "good" folks of HD. You can be sure management is going to watch him carefully for an excuse to really fire him.

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